Agree that it is a personal preference. Blond or brunette, still loads of fun!

My search continues, one dishonest sales manager called a "demo" the vehicle he claims he drove ( I bet like he stole it) but when you go to their website it appears as a "one owner". Another dealer has a '13 base / sports package and is giving me a great deal and would pay 1/2 for an aftermarket GPS but he is giving me $2k less than any other dealer for my trade so at the end all numbers appear the same and I'm having trouble trusting any of them. I've waited since '09 and seems that due to the negotiation tactics that Nissan salespeople use I may keep what I have, besides even thou my Beetle R won't do 200 mph it's fun to drive, has a Fender sound system, led DRLs, sunroof, leather and 30mpg, so I'm not going to get disappointed just sad to see how nobody seems to be honest, really no wonder I love dogs, they don't lie, cheat or hold grudges, we humans need to learn lots from animals, thanks for reading...grrrr.

What did the salesman say when you asked him about that?

My dealer, their internet descriptions of their vehicles in stock are notoriously inaccurate. If it was a lie, it's certainly one he couldn't sustain since the warranty mileage starts ticking when the car is sold, but not if it's a demo. He would know that he'd eventually be caught lying to you.

I wouldn't pay more than $32K for a leftover 2013 with all the bells and whistles. I won't say what I got my 2014 with everything but I would suggest nothing over $36.5-37K

Varies widely by market.

I have a question and neither the salespeople or brochure shows an outlet on or near the dash to plug your radar detector, is there one on the navy, bose models??...i would hate to have a cord next to my arm as I drive since the only power outlet is under the arm rest....

invoice is invoice

I have a cigarette lighter socket below the glove box, next to the tunnel, on my '09 Touring (Bose, no Nav). Not sure if it's there on newer models.

Ability to get invoice-plus varies widely by market.

Passenger footwell, right under the left side of the glove box.

Still doing research on the audio, I want an aftermarket sound system close to Bose but not necessarily as good, blue tooth and good speakers, anyone upgrade their base which is what I'm thinking of doing and just use my phone with the GPS, I will have to get used to the glove box in the center console ... :shakes head:

So I did it, bought online a '13 Z, nav touring, sports package and since I surgery on my back yesterday wifey drove it home while I waited, little disappointed that the small light between the exhaust doesn't light up as well as what I thought were LED's that run along the perimeter of the headlamps, my fault never thought of asking about them grrr

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Congratulations, lovely choice of color and rims.

Back surgery?! Hope you're not a big guy, getting in/out of this car can be rough on you back. :p

I'm a bodybuilder that had some fatty pocket removed from one of my lats, no worries I have plenty of leg, *** and shoulder room, love the car and getting used to the controls.....:driving: