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somatic 10-21-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1363913)
engine break-in is generally done at the factory, second, even if it wasn't... pistons are settled against the cylinder wall well within the first 25 miles...

but nissan still reccomends you take it easy for the first 500 miles.

Bonzo 10-21-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1370201)
I agree. That would piss me off. Oh, and I'd make them remove the dealership decal they slapped onto the rear under the 370Z emblem.

Not that I would have ever bought the car from Jeff Schmitt back in May (even though it was 99% of the car I wanted), having the license plate screwed into the bumper made it all the easier to just walk. Not to mention the way the guy closed the hood, and the doors etc, he had no clue how to do it right. And all his non-sense sales crap. The price was listed straight up on the internet, yet they still tried to haggle me on it; the stupid back and forths. It took 3 times back and forth and they still had that stupid underbody spray and the window etching in the price.

I figured since I wanted to see what the car had in it, which meant punishing it a bit in it's break in period, then I was going to Jeff Schmitt to do it to one of his cars. I would NEVER trash a car on purpose, but since I had to find out how it handled and how fast it was, if anything had gotten hurt a bit I'm glad it was up to Jeff Schmitt's pocket book to fix.

Crap, I ranted again. Sorry everybody. I did not mean to hijack this thread.

Bonzo 10-21-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by somatic (Post 1370261)
but nissan still reccomends you take it easy for the first 500 miles.

I believe it's been posted here on this forum that in the 370 Z manual it says, nothing over 4000 RPM for like the first 1000 miles or something like that. Someone with manual will have to confirm.

Bonzo 10-21-2011 10:12 AM

Break In per the manual.
 
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Here it is in the 2010 manual, page #296.

Nothing over 4000 RPM for the first 1200 miles.

Red__Zed 10-21-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by somatic (Post 1370261)
but nissan still reccomends you take it easy for the first 500 miles.

It's 1200 and it's all warranty-denial crap.

If you build a new engine and don't run it out at all in the first 1200 miles, it will likely fail catastrophically. Luckily, Nissan does this for you.

wstar 10-21-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1370310)
It's 1200 and it's all warranty-denial crap.

If you build a new engine and don't run it out at all in the first 1200 miles, it will likely fail catastrophically. Luckily, Nissan does this for you.

I think beyond warranty denial, they're also trying to cut the new-car accident rate. Getting most consumers to "go easy" on the car for a while at first will cut the rate of people who get on the car hard before they've learned to feel the car's reactions and know its capabilities, which leads to those low-mileage catastrophic wrecks.

But I agree with Red, as far as real engine break-in is concerned: (a) the factory has done it for you, and (b) if anything, if the engine *wasn't* fully broken in, you don't want to be too soft on the engine early on. The main thing with break-in on a modern engine is piston ring seating/sealing, and you want to make use of the cross-hatch score-marks on the cylinder walls to properly abrade the rings under stress conditions before the score-marks are worn smooth from regular driving.

Bonzo 10-21-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1370310)
It's 1200 and it's all warranty-denial crap.

If you build a new engine and don't run it out at all in the first 1200 miles, it will likely fail catastrophically. Luckily, Nissan does this for you.

I really don't see what the big deal is. So you take it easy for the first month, B-F-D. Doing that CERTAINLY won't hurt, and it could help. Driving the crap out of it right away certainly COULD hurt. I say it's worth it to take it easy even if there is even a slight chance it will help in the long run. I want this car to last for a long time.

somatic 10-21-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1370310)
It's 1200 and it's all warranty-denial crap.

If you build a new engine and don't run it out at all in the first 1200 miles, it will likely fail catastrophically. Luckily, Nissan does this for you.

im talking about the basic recommendation. i sell nissans everyday and im required to say 500 lol. thats what they say

Red__Zed 10-21-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1370326)
I really don't see what the big deal is. So you take it easy for the first month, B-F-D. Doing that CERTAINLY won't hurt, and it could help. Driving the crap out of it right away certainly COULD hurt. I say it's worth it to take it easy even if there is even a slight chance it will help in the long run. I want this car to last for a long time.

Read up on piston seating/sealing.

Your engine comes from the factory usually 80% broken in. If you don't do a pull, you are hoping Nissan got it right.

The vast majority of oil consumption cases on the 350 were due to failure to seat piston rings at the factory, and then consumers taking it easy as directed. The 370 had similar oil consumption issues...likely the same cause.

Red__Zed 10-21-2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by somatic (Post 1370327)
im talking about the basic recommendation. i sell nissans everyday and im required to say 500 lol. thats what they say

500 syncs up with gear requirements I guess....wonder where you get that number though...nissans company line is 1200.

somatic 10-21-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1370415)
500 syncs up with gear requirements I guess....wonder where you get that number though...nissans company line is 1200.

lmao idk whats with my head today. ur right. i dont know why i mixed that up with the towing restriction lol.

thats right, i said it, red zed was right :tup:

Bonzo 10-21-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1370412)
Read up on piston seating/sealing.

Your engine comes from the factory usually 80% broken in. If you don't do a pull, you are hoping Nissan got it right.

The vast majority of oil consumption cases on the 350 were due to failure to seat piston rings at the factory, and then consumers taking it easy as directed. The 370 had similar oil consumption issues...likely the same cause.

Oh, I've done quite a bit of reading about things like this in the past, and this is a lot like the oil discussion you are having over on the other thread. I've owned several vehicles in my life and never ever had one single engine problem. Not one, including my 2004 Murano that has 160,000 miles on it. So I'll just do it my way, and you do it your way. There is no solid proof one way is 100% ultimately better than the other. If you think there is, then by all means follow it. If I get engine problems with my way, then shame on me and Nissan.

Red__Zed 10-21-2011 12:23 PM

Best of luck with that

b1adesofcha0s 10-21-2011 12:35 PM

Red__Zed is always right. The sooner you understand that, the better it will be for you. :|

:rofl2:

danegrey 10-21-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1370201)
I agree. That would piss me off. Oh, and I'd make them remove the dealership decal they slapped onto the rear under the 370Z emblem.

did that this afternoon and took off the license plate holders and in process of formating my letter, which will also go to Nissan.....

danegrey 10-21-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1369831)
Oh sh*t, I just looked at your pictures again, I hope it's the lighting, but it appears from the limited pic they DID screw the front plate into your bumper. Hell, it even looks crooked. Please say it isn't so.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ughdance::mad::shakes head:


its not so, standard holder from factory, there license plate holder is gone

danegrey 10-21-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1370098)
Did they give you wheel locks? I can't tell from the pics (my eye sight is good, but not THAT good).

no wheel locks, just had to have the wheel locks removed on my 91 mustang gt, for someone lost the key and it was not me.

danegrey 10-21-2011 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by somatic (Post 1370261)
but nissan still reccomends you take it easy for the first 500 miles.

LOL, well there are 150 on it now, and a bit more, with having to learn how to drive a sports car vs a 91 Mustang, not looking at anything crazy just some fun and to find out how the car behaves.

danegrey 10-21-2011 03:18 PM

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I am not sure if this is the oil cooler, did not get under the car, this is a pic through the front grill....

azn370z 10-21-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 1370771)
I am not sure if this is the oil cooler, did not get under the car, this is a pic through the front grill....

That's the ps cooler. Someone already posted pics of the oil cooler.

Bonzo 10-21-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 1370756)
its not so, standard holder from factory, there license plate holder is gone

So no holes in the bumper? Whew, that was close. Good news for sure!!!!

pfineberg 10-27-2011 01:03 PM

New 2012....
 
Did you get the Navigation Package and upgraded sound system? I just purchased a new 2011 (told same as 2012..no major changes...) with same options but had to have the Navigation System and Music Box which is great. No need for CDs once you record them on the hard drive. Love the car...look forward to getting up each day to drive to work....

danegrey 10-28-2011 05:17 PM

no, I just got the base + sports package, was not interested in the other items,
the only thing I wished it had was blue tooth, but that is in the touring packing

Jordo! 10-28-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1370412)
Read up on piston seating/sealing.

Your engine comes from the factory usually 80% broken in. If you don't do a pull, you are hoping Nissan got it right.

The vast majority of oil consumption cases on the 350 were due to failure to seat piston rings at the factory, and then consumers taking it easy as directed. The 370 had similar oil consumption issues...likely the same cause.

You're not supposed to "take it easy"; you're supposed to avoid holding a constant engine speed...

Rev up and coast down should build vaccum and help seal the piston rings.

Zero oil consumption on any new motor I've broken in.

PapoZalsa 10-28-2011 08:56 PM

Nissan should changed the Z colors at least since they have NOT done any significant changes except the oil cooler and side heated mirrors.

Too many grays and sorry OP but the cherry black....anyway welcome.

Red__Zed 10-29-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1382547)
You're not supposed to "take it easy"; you're supposed to avoid holding a constant engine speed...

Rev up and coast down should build vaccum and help seal the piston rings.

Zero oil consumption on any new motor I've broken in.

That's what a pull and drop is.....

bernardio 10-29-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 1382679)
Nissan should changed the Z colors at least since they have NOT done any significant changes except the oil cooler and side heated mirrors.

Too many grays and sorry OP but the cherry black....anyway welcome.

I thought my 2011 had heated mirrors.. hmmm.

Anyhow, Congrats Danegrey on the 2012 370z!!! :tup:

jay4500 10-29-2011 03:40 PM

jay
 
need some pics of the oil cooler on 2012

xipander 10-29-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bernardio (Post 1383217)
I thought my 2011 had heated mirrors.. hmmm.

Anyhow, Congrats Danegrey on the 2012 370z!!! :tup:

My 2011 base has heated mirrors.

somatic 10-29-2011 07:42 PM

welcome to the forum!

angelo08069 10-30-2011 01:01 PM

Whats the difference between 2012 and 2011 370 z I got one year left to pay on the mustang then Im either getting corvette or 370 z. I love the black cherry color that is the color I would get. So do the 2012 come with an oil cooler and the 11s dont.

pedZ 10-30-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by angelo08069 (Post 1383877)
Whats the difference between 2012 and 2011 370 z I got one year left to pay on the mustang then Im either getting corvette or 370 z. I love the black cherry color that is the color I would get. So do the 2012 come with an oil cooler and the 11s dont.

The 2012s come with a water-to-oil cooler, the 2011s and earlier do not. The persimmon interior is also now limited to only the Magnetic Black and Pearl White exterior colors in the 2012 models. That's really it as far as differences.

angelo08069 10-30-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pedelg24 (Post 1383884)
The 2012s come with a water-to-oil cooler, the 2011s and earlier do not. The persimmon interior is also now limited to only the Magnetic Black and Pearl White exterior colors in the 2012 models. That's really it as far as differences.

Thank you very much for your help how is the 370z as far as quality the interior looks beautiful in these cars.

pedZ 10-30-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by angelo08069 (Post 1383891)
Thank you very much for your help how is the 370z as far as quality the interior looks beautiful in these cars.

I like the interior a lot. The touring package interior is very similar to an Infiniti interior if you've ever been in one. You should go check one out at the dealership and sit in it. I think you will like it.

angelo08069 10-30-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pedelg24 (Post 1383895)
I like the interior a lot. The touring package interior is very similar to an Infiniti interior if you've ever been in one. You should go check one out at the dealership and sit in it. I think you will like it.

My aunt has a 2010 infiniti g37xs drove that car and that thing has balls and is really confortable. If I got one I would get the black cherry in a touring sport automatic.

pedZ 10-30-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by angelo08069 (Post 1383898)
My aunt has a 2010 infiniti g37xs drove that car and that thing has balls and is really confortable. If I got one I would get the black cherry in a touring sport automatic.

:tup: Good luck in your search.


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