Oh well then that explains it.

FWIW PSS was introduced in 2011/2012.

Depends on the rubber compound.

The best will get even grippier when hot, and will give plenty of "tire talk" and warning when they are about to give out on you.

The worst will practically melt down, get gooey/slippery, and have unpredictable handling characteristics at best. Even a good spirited drive on the road cant quite get up to track-level of tire temps simply because of the rubber build-up on the track, which gives even MORE grip where it's needed.

Those tires couldn't even handle your brake pads on the street. They were doomed to be worthless on a track, sadly.

you are prob right im not a 100% what model they were.. all i know is i didnt like them.. now that was 6 years ago and im sure they are better now.. but like i keep saying this is my personal preference.. i like pirelli and will always run them.. i will not give in or follow the crowd its what i like.. if you dont like them thats fine you dont have to run them.. for me and the way i drive they are what i use... and will always use....

more power to you. I prefer to run the best parts I can, regardless of brand.

explains everything

And having a peek under my bonnet?

o turst me i know.. all tires react different once you get heat in them... but for what this discussion that is exactly what iv been saying..

the difference between the pss and the pzero will be hard to tell the difference.. there is not a vast difference.. is the pss a better tire..YES.. but its not vastly superior to the point where the average guy will tell the difference.. and not for anything it doesnt look like to many of these people are serious track racers.. more just weeken warriors like most of us.. who like to go and have some fun from time to time....

Well now that we've cleared that up...

ok then they were the previous gen ones..

i noticed the difference from the passenger seat, but it also may have been the fact that steve is an extremely skilled driver :|

I bet it's filled out nicely, not much wiggle room in there.

Moar dorifto! :icon17:

I had fun and learned a lot, which is all that matters to me.

Answer my fvcking question

im the same way.. and i dont let someone tell me something is the best i have to see that it is.. i dont jump on the bandwagon.. i prefer to test myself and make my own decision..

that is the reason why i stick with pirelli.. for me i have never had a problem with them and they work great for me.. until the day comes that pirelli lets me down i will run them..

Aniceh going to Bobo's garage for intake/exhaust install? :|