Chris, the fact that you cant verbalize what you're saying means that the way Steve and I are interpreting it is EXACTLY how you're saying it. We both are reading it exactly the same, and you're saying we're wrong, but you can't explain how.

You want to go out on the track, but you dont want to go out on the track. The reasoning behind that is a mystery apparently 8P

That's all I want to do. Couple HPDEs a year to enjoy the car and learn to drive better ... legally. Controlled and safe.

I'm trying to explain it, but because I don't have the experience you do, it's hard to put it into words you would understand and not look down on me for.

It's not that I don't know what I want to do, its getting others to understand it.

Basically the point is 1 HDPE or similar event wouldn't be enough. I'd want to keep going. And there isn't $$ for that. So it's better for me not to do it until I can at the rate I want to, than do it, love it, and not be able to enjoy it AT that rate that I want to.

Nope I just sprayed them too. Though if you do decide to plasti dip your wheels, make sure you do several coats on each wheel in all areas. I didn't do enough on mine and they are starting to peel. I had like 4-5 coats of black on each wheel. I would recommend like 6-7 or even more.

Same here.

Skip Barber would definitely be a solution - expensive, but a solution. Not his own car, and good instructors.

But DELAYING your first HPDE is not going to get you to that point any faster. If you have the money for a single HPDE or Hyperdrive, then do it. Dont act like you need to be doing ****-tons of HPDE's to be effective. I've done 1 HPDE per year max, so far.

:iagree: x100000000000000000000

That might be enough for you... lol I would want More.

:iagree:

$50 bucks to do a Hyperdrive and gas to get there. Priceless. :tup: Come to Summit 28 April so I won't be the only Z.

So it looks like Carbotech does make brake pads for the base brakes, but I don't see the base versions on Z1's website. Going to PM them and see what's up. Would the SS lines help much? It's only like $100 more.

Again, setting the bar too high. You want all or nothing. I PLAN to do more than 1 a year, but military and monetary limitations have held me back. Yet I've still gone, and I still have learned a ton.

Yeah they arent used to selling Carbotech's for the base brakes. They can probably order them for you.

You DO NOT need SS lines, at all. Dont even worry about them.

SS lines will help with pedal feel more than anything else. The lines won't expand under pressure so the pedal will feel firmer.

Like Bobo says, they are not a NEED.

And your funding is higher than mine, which is why I haven't been able to yet. One day I'll have a secure income stream, then I can look to doing them frequently.

Thank you sir! :tiphat: