Originally Posted by Cristobal09 (Post 1746339)

So heres my story on test driving a 5.0...

So after hearing all the hype on a 5.0 stang and like 7 or 8 people moving from 370's to 5.0's, I figured id have to see what all the hype was all about. At first I test drove a manual with brembo brake package and relatively fully loaded. Since im not the best at a manual, I couldnt get the full feel of the car. But I wasnt too thrilled with the interior and besides the power in a straight line, it didnt blow my socks off. And according to Steve, apparentlty there is a sports mode in the brembo package that the salesman didnt even know about.

Fast forward to yesterday, where the salesman calls me up and says they got an auto 5.0 in. So since work is so slow and ive got to kill off 200 vacation hours before the end of august, I figured id drive back out there. It did not have the brembo brake package. I took the first turn out of the parking lot and the all season tires just skidded all over the place. I got on it pretty hard but with those crappy tires I couldnt get decent grip even in 85 degree weather. When I was cruising at 60, the salesman told me to get on it (and as some of you NOVA guys know, im a sloth when it comes to speed and he was getting frustrated I was going so slow) and it got up to 85 in no time at all. THAT was cool. Just as long as I wasnt taking fast turns it was fine.

So in the end im MUCH happier with my 370 I have now. The engine note in the 5.0 sounds MUCH nicer compared to the 3.7. The 370 doesnt have near the power in a straight line like the 5.0 (obviously). I also didnt like how there was a lot more play in the steering wheel,but thats going to happen with a larger car. I told him to call me up if they got an auto Brembo package in, but even then Im not sure I could take a hit and trade in my 370 for a 5.0.

Also considering how great you Mid-a 370 guys are, im not sure I would want to leave the comfort of decent people and move to an old american muscle car group, but nobody could be as bad as the M3 group.....

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1746347)

You can still hang out with us regardless of what car you have :tup:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1746414)

Used cars FTW :p

If I were to get a 5.0, I'd get a used one in the upper $20k range. The money I save by not buying new, can then go into mods :yum:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746411)

You don't drive fast enough to take advantage of it anyways. ;)

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746370)

The steering feel isn't related to the size of the car as much as it is Ford's decision to use the stupid EPAS system. It's all computer controlled so it kills a lot of the feedback. If they used a normal steering rack the 5.0 would feel close to the same.

However, steering feel changes quite a bit when you are in sport mode or select something other than Comfort.

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1746414)

Used cars FTW :p

If I were to get a 5.0, I'd get a used one in the upper $20k range. The money I save by not buying new, can then go into mods :yum:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1746431)

Uh, there is a difference in feel related to size between the vehicles. You know you're driving a larger vehicle in the Ford, from feel alone. Maybe not steering feel, but there is definitely that feeling that, "oh, I'm a tiny human in this large vessel", compared to the Z being a much more compact feeling, taut sports car.

Again, feel is also very subjective. I like the tighter feel of the Z. The Mustang is worlds more comfortable and spacious, though.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746420)

You can get a new 5.0 base with Brembo for somewhere in the 20s. :icon17:

Originally Posted by Cristobal09 (Post 1746433)

I will NEVER buy a used sports car again. I learned with my m3 and Charger srt8. People dog the sh*t out of them and I got to deal with the issues.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746437)

:facepalm:

I never said it wasn't. I said the difference in steering feel is MOSTLY related to the EPAS. Read it again.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746443)

You will kill yourself in a 5.0.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746458)

The stock seats blow. Recaro or bust.

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1746472)

Unless you're a fat lesbian. Then I'd say get the stock seats or possibly a trike.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746475)

Golf battle necessary.

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1746465)

No I'd totally Steve it! Seriously though, I don't push my car anywhere near it's limits. I know I don't have the driving skills to handle it, but I'm definitely working towards improving them. Would it be any different to start doing HPDE's in a 5.0 vs a 370Z? Regardless of the car, I'd be going at a pace that I feel comfortable in until I know I can go faster.

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1746484)

:icon18: troof!

I gotta look at my schedule. I've got a lot of traveling to do this summer, and a lot of haus work to be done. Next weekend might be good for a golf battle, or at least some time at a driving range. Perhaps after FFX meat?

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746488)

We might be able to squeeze something in.

Then we could golf.

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1746452)

That's where you have to do your HW though. You can find used sports cars in good condition for good prices too. I bought my Z used and it was in absolute mint condition when I bought it. That combined with the fact that I bought it during a snow storm got me a really awesome deal on it. Bought it for the exact amount the previous owner got for it on trade in. $26k for certified used touring 7AT with 15k miles. I could get rid of my car now and I'd only lose like ~$6-8k if you include the cost of taxes/tags/etc. If I had bought it new, that number would be more like $15k.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746487)

It can be. 5.0 (with Brembo package) is more neutral with a bias to oversteer. 370Z has a lot of understeer from the factory. A newb would be more likely to spin the 5.0 than the 370.

Must have experience with oversteer if you plan to Steve it.

An understanding of low grip surfaces is also preferred.

Apply online at Careers.steve.com.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746491)

I'll have to look around at places available. Remember, I have no idea what I am doing. Never swung a club at a golf ball in my life.

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1746505)

Not a huge deal. It's quick to establish a basic golf swing. The key to being really good at the game is perfecting all swings for all phases, understanding variables at the course, being in fit shape, and then most importantly retaining the focus to be able to do all of this when it matters.

Originally Posted by Cristobal09 (Post 1746496)

I just dont trust buying a used "sports car" anymore.

Originally Posted by Cristobal09 (Post 1746496)

Trust me, ive done my homework when it comes to buying used cars. Ive owned 15 cars in my 14 years of driving lol :p. I did PPI's on the charger and m3 and they both checked out initially. It was driving them after a thousand miles or so id start having issues. In the m3, the smg transmission started acting up and it started knocking.... at 29000 miles. That was usually a sign of the previous owner taking hard launches. I had that car a year and 3 months before I got so frustrated with it that I traded it for the Z.

The Charger srt8 I owned before the m3, only had 14k on it. The transmission went out on it after 3 weeks (fortunately it was covered under warranty still), the catalytic converter crapped out on me after a few months, and the CEL was on ALL the time. I got rid of that after a year.

I just dont trust buying a used "sports car" anymore. I have an 08 Honda Pilot that I bought used and its been great, but thats cause the owners before it were a family of 3 and it was just a grocery getter and daily driver. Its also a Honda :)

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746508)

Why do you have to be fit to golf. You hit a ball and then drive after it in a motorized cart.

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1746519)

I said you have to be fit to be good at golf. It's about swing consistency and distance. If you are fit, you have greater range of motion and endurance and can more easily replicate a swing for 18 holes. And the pros walk the course.


All that said, I am horrible at golf, but it is fun.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1746522)

I need to be respectable at golf so I can go with clients.

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1746525)

I can get you most of the way to respectable :icon17:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1746515)

I'm with you on this. Just go to the General section of this forum, look at the threads where people are like, "What's an oil change? Should I do it at 15k miles?", or "I hard launch the car when it's cold", or "I did 150 lololol"

People who drive sports cars are more likely to drive them very hard. You aren't going to go to a used car dealer and inspect engine ports. Most likely, you're gonna check the exterior for obvious signs of damage. Maybe if you're frisky, you'll give the underbody a glance.

It's just too risky. I'd rather buy new.