...that's an awful long vacuum hose that can break, crimp, rub a crack in it, etc. etc. Smaller canister mounted to the firewall is way safer imho. There are two plugs in the firewall by the brake booster...popping those out and crafting a bracket to mount the tank is pretty easy. Just my two cents.

The hoses are routed very safely and they're super thick. This particular canister was much larger than I anticipated and it really doesn't fit anywhere else easily. Perhaps if it works then down the road we can find a better canister/mounting solution or at least braided hose. First things first though gotta make sure it even helps. If not then its going up on a shelf in my garage anyway.

It'll work.

If we were talking about women I might agree that bigger (giant canister) is better and longer (12 foot hose runs) is better. That Summit thing looks like a football sideline Gatorade jug. :tup:

Another concern having it in that area is an incident involving the fascia that would render it useless ... unhook that line from manifold someday and check the pedal feel. It'll feel like a 1968 Rambler loaded with fat peeps and would take two legs and all your might to budge it a little.

Added: I should say I "hope" it works. I am not certain it does yet myself.

They are pretty much all the same from my brief searching. If anyone knows of a slimmer one post a link! Perhaps if we create a demand someone will manufacture a 370Z specific kit! Should be fairly easy to design/build for a manufacturer.

http://www.the370z.com/members/sixpa...58-booster.jpg

The hole I am talking about is circled in the picture ... cut a length of that steel same length as tank (Lowes .. $3.00) ... bolt it it to that hole. There is a dimple back there so the steel deal will be away from the hole enough to clamp the tank to it. Attach hoses and done. Plenty of room right there for one. Crane Cams I think makes a small one, but it is slightly bigger than this Autocraft deal. I don't have mine installed yet as you can see, but I think it will fit just fine.

EDIT: I should point out those SS lines don't come with it, I had those left over from my catch cans. They send you a hose, but it isn't long enough to make it to either connection on our car to be worth anything.

The extra length in the vacuum lines will also add capacity to the system.

Good luck to everyone. Cars are looking great!

That's a great point I had not considered. :tup:

Any updates?

Nope. I went out to find a spot to try and re-create ice mode safely (i.e. an empty parking lot) and I couldn't re-create it. So the canister is still disconnected until I can find a larger parking lot to where I can get enough speed to re-create track-like driving and hopefully be able to trigger ice mode. Then I can hook up the canister and re-test to see if it works.

time to remove yaw sensor too!

Yeah that will come if this vacuum can works as well as I hope!

Strange, seems newer cars dont get ice mod, but I do have the ABS grabbing my calipers when pulling a lot of G's..
I will remove disconnect the yaw sensor too. My rear camber arm failed at the back of Phil's hill so my car is down at the moment...

Well I think we've boiled it down to this. The more you get ice mode, the more it wears out your ABS pump. The more worn out your ABS pump is, the more likely you are to trigger ice mode again. So I don't think its the age of the car so much as it is how many times you've experienced ice mode. I started tracking my Z in early 2009 and didn't hit ice mode until mid-2010 after probably 10 track weekends. Then after I started hitting it, it just kept getting more and more easily triggered. Completely goes along with the above theory of the worn out pump. And because mine is so bad, I am iffy on whether or not this vacuum canister will help enough.

If you haven't hit it yet, then I would highly recommend getting the vacuum canister so you better your chances of never hitting it.

So I FINALLY got off my *** and tested the vacuum canister back to back today. Made sure I found a spot where I could safely replicate track driving as much as I could then proceeded to get my car to hit ice mode without the vacuum canister hooked up. Hooked up the vacuum canister, drove around a bit and re-created my first test. I am bummed to report that the vacuum canister had ZERO effect on my ice mode. It was still just as easy to trigger as it was without the canister hooked up. I think my ABS pump is either too far gone or perhaps its not as much of a fix as we all hoped. I really thought it would at least help my situation and make it harder to trigger, but that was not the case. Back to square one. Anyone have any thoughts/theories?

well that sucks ... was hoping your results were on the good side of things.

Your car must of been made on a Monday.

You and me both. I was really excited at the possibility of getting back out to the track soon! Now back to debating whether I should save up a few grand and do a full dual master brake setup and bypass ABS or get rid of the 370Z and get something else. Leaning toward the later.

Or a Friday at 4:30pm, just before a holiday weekend. Then finished first thing Tuesday morning after said holiday weekend.

Interesting as it completely cured my car but I'm just getting rid of abs altogether. Pulling all abs systems and now running proportioning valve

Mike,

I don't know if I buy into your theory of the pumping wearing out either. I used to get ice mode all the time with my aggressive brake pads. I have a few more track days on the car as you, but i also did a lot of autox with ice mode too. I made the switch to a softer compound and the problem was mostly gone. Of course now i am dealing with a soft pedal as I am overheating the pads...

More i think about it, more I hate the car

Yeah its frustrating as hell and I just simply don't know what I want to do. On one hand, if you got rid of ABS, took care of fuel starvation, and have a good oil cooler the 370Z would be an awesome track car that you could run all day. It would be quick and reliable. On the other hand, the ABS is a big hang-up. Once you ditch it, run all new brake lines, get a new pedal box, etc. its not easy or cheap to put back to stock I wanted to sell it one day. I basically have to decide if I want to sell it now or make a commitment to keep it for a LONG time and eventually have it be a dedicated track car. Neither choice I am 100% thrilled with.

I have the same dilemma. But then I can't buy same performance for the same price. I did the go faster car with the c6. Did the go slow thing to save money with the rx8. Ended up back in a z

Yeah that's my major dilemma as well. Mine is an '09 with 47k miles on it. There's just nothing else out there that I would rather have for what my Z is worth. I would have to come out of pocket a few grand to get something I would view as comparable in speed/looks/aftermarket support/mileage/condition as my Z. 2006-2008 BMW M Coupe (Z4 body style) is probably #1 on the list. Basically an E46 M3 with a different body that I think is better looking, plus it's a tad lighter. That car also has its own problems on the track though, but there are known fixes/preventative measures.

I almost pulled the trigger on a used Z06 from the Bondurant school. They wanted $12K after 1 year of track abuse.

That could be an awesome deal or a crappy deal haha. The thing I don't like about the Z06 is the aluminum frame. Makes it a royal pain in the *** to do a roll cage since you can't weld the steel cage to the aluminum frame. You have to sleeve it through the frame, cap it on both sides, bolt on any gusseting, etc. It can be done by the right cage builder, but it wont be cheap. Plus you can make plenty of NA power with the LS2/LS3 anyway and you can buy Z06 or ZR1 front/rear fenders that bolt right on for extra tire clearance. The only big advantage to the Z06 is that it already comes with a halfway decent dry sump system. Long story short, for the price difference you normally get between the regular C6 and the Z06 you can probably build a better standard model for the same amount of money as buying the stock Z06.

That's more like a car that's been through a gangbang

You would have to come up with more than that, those M coupes are very rare and they hold their value. At the end of the day, you will have to spend money on nearly every car. There are very few cars you can buy for the money that can deliver the same performance. You would either have to buy an older car and sink a lot of mod money.

God forbid, there is the EVO and STI.

Eh, I have had two Evos. Been down that road. An EVO/STI would probably produce a better track car for the same amount of money, but I am a RWD guy at heart. Plus I don't like having the same car that 30 other people have at the track that day, which rules out the EVO/STI/S2000. Although I feel like the S2000 is the car I "should" get on paper...I just don't want one. Same goes for the FR-S and Miata.

Any link on to where to get this resevoir fix?

Mr. Gasket Vacuum Canisters 3701 - SummitRacing.com

It didn't fix mine though.

A customer just sent me his brakes to refinish on one that he bought from bondurant. Those things were cooked!

You have no options than. Maybe a little MP3

There is always the forum favorite 5.0

Thought about that one too. Its on the list, just not near the top. IRS > Straight Axle

Can't have them all without spending the $$. You can get one of these

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8235/8...09a47026_o.jpg

Sorry I am checking in late... but not being able to weld steel and aluminum together is not entirely true. Although it might be expensive as hell there is a way. Developed by honda called friction stir welding.

here is the link friction Stir Welding. And great blog/post on your car. I just spent the better part of my afternoon reading your whole log. Nice work and I think it is really cool that you have so much backing from sponsors in the community. I am working on my first track/autox season at the moment. Been around cars and races all my life but never got the opportunity to try it. We will see how it goes. Thanks for all the info though!

oh.. and if your going to buy that porsche up there .. you might as well just get a GTR. Cheaper and faster.:rolleyes:

Thanks! That friction stir welding is pretty cool! Still thought, the rulebooks require the sleeving method. Hopefully they will approve that method one day though. Good luck on your first season!

Taking the thread off track abit. Friction Stir Welding is old news. Been doing that since the '70's, with aluminum since the '90's. The company I used to work for, Elliott TurboMachinery. I help in developing TIG welding aluminum to steel overlay. :D

That's awesome! It's neat to meet so many cool people with so much background and perspective.

Did my first autocross even over the weekend. Had a great time and the SCCA lived up to the hype. Everyone was helpful and nice.

I will continue to follow this build so I may learn the true ways of the Zedi master. :tup:


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Alas, this project has finally and officially come to an end. New car is on order and I am sure you'll all be surprised to find out that I will be switching to a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (4-door) haha. Quite the change, I know.

Part-out has commenced. More to come as I get time to take them off the car.

-Summit Racing Vacuum Canister w/25' of brand new power brake hose | FS Thread
-Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers | Still on car
-Fast Intentions TDX Cat-Back w/100 cell HFC, 18" resonators, CF mufflers | Still on car
-NST Pulley set (underdrive crank, overdrive alternator) | Still on car
-BC Racing ER series double-adjustable coilovers | Still on car
-Whiteline Sway Bars | Still on car
-Whiteline Rear Sway Bar End Links | To be sold w/sways
-SPL Parts Pro Rear Camber Arms | Still on car
-Nismo 60mm wheel studs | Still on car
-Muteki open ended lug nuts | Still on car
-BC Forged HB29 19" Wheels w/tires | Still on car
-SEIBON NS Style CF side skirts partially painted Brilliant Silver | Still on car
-Stillen J-Hook Rotors | Still on car

Yea. That's a change for sure. Good luck to you.

Change happens to everyone. Some sooner then others. Sad to see you change though. :( You've been a big help. :tup: Good luck with the Jeep. I'm on my 5th one. LOL