Diode works! used 1amp across 85/86 relay terminals and that did the trick... thanks again!

Car is at Z Fever Racing in Tampa... more to come

Back to the engine...

This is all preliminary, I will have more certain info and pictures to post later in the week

- spun bearings on #4 crank position
- this #4 position usually indicates an oiling problem, as this is the first to not receive oil when insufficient oil flow occurs
- unclear yet if lower block is salvageable / how much damage
- heads are unusual situation... the fasteners involved with VVEL have tool marks on them indicating that they have been wrenched on... Nissan strongly advises to never adjust these as it may be catastrophic

... more to come

Sounds... interesting :) Keep us posted.

Slight tangent: When you talk about insufficient "flow", would this be obvious on an oil pressure gauge as insufficient pressure, assuming there were no blocked passageways from some kind of foreign debris? Or is there a way to have ok pressure and no blocked passageways and still end up with insufficient "flow" to oil a bearing correctly?

hm, interesting.

Was it an oil flow issue then? Not starvation?

So VVEL was adjusted then?

If the VVEL WAS adjusted, who did it?

Was the motor opened up before all this happen? Especially the heads.

+1 on the oil pressure gauge question. I currently run one myself.

Will answer some of these questions when I have more info

Separate topic... front camber adjustment... I talked with Jay at Ground Control... I told him we need another option in addition to the SPC front upper control arms for camber adjustment on this car... he's looking at it - no promises... if anyone wants to encourage Mr. Jay, give him a call at 530-677-8600

Refresh me, what's the issue with the SPC front upper control arms? I'm just now getting to the point where I might care with some new coilovers (having finally found some real limitations on the stock suspension that I'm unhappy with).

They tend to fall out of adjustment with heavy track use.

^ exactly... and tough to make adjustments at the track given placement of the tensioner/fastener

So, here are the pics

Some scoring along the cylinders
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...224_160859.jpg

Two deep gauges where the bearing spun and dug into the lower block
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...224_161013.jpg

Visible damage to crank
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...224_160924.jpg

Easier to see in person... Tool marks on the heads indicating that they may have been tightened to a non-OEM level of torque... note that this could have happened when the engine was installed as a "new engine" by a dealership in Phoenix, or anytime thereafter... it would not be appropriate for anyone to further speculate... thanks! I am providing these photos simply as a reminder that according to Nissan these should not be adjusted outside the factory... which is open for discussion
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...224_160824.jpg

http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...224_160813.jpg

http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...224_160748.jpg

I found an engine out of an '09 G37 with 35K miles that will include a 6 mo warranty for ~$3,500... if anyone knows of a better deal, please speak up - otherwise I will buy it Monday

The damaged engine will eventually become a spare, assuming it is repairable

travis: Have you tried Nissan Unlimited? The 350Z guys really like 'em.

Thanks for the tip. They appear to have one G37 engine in inventory. It is a core (was exchanged for another) that they prob bought for $150 and are now selling for $1,700. They claim it does not work.

eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices

I will prob go through a local supplier, but FYI car-part.com has a pretty exhaustive dbase of used engines here are the ones I found


2009
Engine
Infiniti G37 3.7,6SP,6-09,EXCH,000 16,000 A 211222 $4200 Miami Parts USA-FL(Opa-Locka) E-mail 1-800-644-4788

2009
Engine
Nissan 370Z 2D,ABS,CPE,3.7,AOD,FLR,5-09 7,000 A KF7740 $4000 Fagan Auto Parts USA-AL(Piedmont) E-mail 1-800-331-5282

2011
Engine
Infiniti M37 3.7,AT,2WD/SDN `0,172MI` NOS 100850 $3800 M and M Service and Salvage Yard Inc. USA-VA(Ruckersville) Request_Quote 1-800-533-4099 Request_Insurance_Quote

2009
Engine
Infiniti G37 3.7L,AOD,RWD 36,000 A 10247 $3600 Kenny's Auto Wrecking USA-OH(Lima) Request_Quote 1-800-686-1871 Request_Insurance_Quote

2009
Engine
Infiniti G37 (VQ37VHR), RWD .RUNS 29,856 A $VN447 $3530 LKQ - Route 16 Used Auto USA-MA(Webster) E-mail 1-800-423-4006

2010
Engine
Infiniti G37 NOTES 22,000 A 96911 $3500 Gardner Auto Parts, Inc. USA-FL(Pompano-Beach) Request_Quote 1-800-321-6399 Request_Insurance_Quote

2009
Engine
Nissan 370Z NEW OEM LONG BLOCK NEW $3500 East Side Auto Recycling USA-MD(Baltimore) Request_Quote 877-334-1171 / 410-276-1171 Request_Insurance_Quote

2009
Engine
Infiniti G37 RUNS 175/180 (VQ37VHR), RWD 50,665 A $WL922 $3380 LKQ FL Lake City USA-FL(Lake-City) E-mail 1-888-849-7887

2010
Engine
Infiniti G37 16K NEEDS IMA,LH RH VCO EXHCANGE 16,000 A 120007 $3300 Price Auto Parts USA-NC(Knightdale) Request_Quote 1-800-672-9211 Request_Insurance_Quote

2009
Engine
Infiniti G37 NICE TESTED ENGINE WITH 8K MILES 77237B $3300 Lots Of Parts USA-CA(Azusa) Request_Quote 626-334-0315 Request_Insurance_Quote

2009
Engine
Infiniti G37 11/08,AT-5,GRY,SDN,SUN,RWD,FLR 0 A 190644 $3250 Luxury Auto Parts USA-AL(Lincoln) E-mail 1-205-763-1084 1-888-LUXPART

2009
Engine
Nissan 370Z tested good 21,000 A AQ1L003 $2915 A & P Auto Parts Inc. - PRP-NE, ARA Gold Seal, URG 8000 USA-NY(Cicero) Request_Quote 1-800-962-7222 Request_Insurance_Quote

2009
Engine
Infiniti G37 G37S CORE ENGINE, COMPLETE, SELL IN PARTS OR COMPLETE 29,000 A CORE $1000 Nissan Unlimited - ARAPro USA-TX(Houston) Request_Quote 832-467-4400 Request_Insurance_Quote

Weird, I see no LSX motors on that list, Travis.......

:|

haha, right......

I like this motor! just don't like replacing it

So, dumb question...why not go w/ a 3.5L, stroke it out, and have a much simpler head design that is probably easier to work with in the end?

hope it all works out man...

One more of these and yup, that's what I'll do

Unrelated / FYI... over on my Tundra forum, found this thread covering a 5.7L TRD Supercharged engine conversion for a SC430 drift car... apparently the World Racing 2,200 hp car is based upon a Tundra 5.7 as well... enjoy TRD Supercharged Tundra 5.7 Lexus SC430 - TundraTalk.net - Toyota Tundra Discussion Forum

That's a project from the Drift Emporium guys here in GA. Good bunch of guys. The two G35's in the shop are VK56 Supercharged and the Bass Boat S15 is also a N/A VK56. They come out to ZDayZ, did a Drift Expo at the 2010 ZCON event at Nashville Superspeedway and have had their cars here at Z Nationals a few times.

Travis you need to go the Chris Foresburg route. VK56 Supercharged into the Z.

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagam.../FORSBRG20.jpg

:eek2:

I agree with the VK56 mod, though I am sure you do not have to SC it yet.

Hey Travis have you seen Love the Beast? or Senna? Both great movie/documentaries about racing/motorsports (you can find them both on netflix), you'd definitely connect with Love the Beast. Highly recommended.

Keep up the push with the car man, got a lot of fans here you cant disappoint after all ;)


:tiphat:

Edit: I made it about halfway though Love the Beast before I had pause it and go drive my car lol, finished it up later.

Your situation does give you a great excuse to drop in w/e you can find that will fit.

Love the Beat - haven't seen it but will check it out when I can, thx for tip!

I think most of you know that an engine swap involves a lot of work besides just dropping in the motor! (:

Very true, very true. Just food for thought and all.

Unless of course, it's a small block Chevy going into a Miata, or RB25 into a 240. Lol

Sent from my HP Touchpad using Tapatalk

This can be justified? YES?! :tup:

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Tire-Changer-...poQ~~60_58.JPG

I have something similar for gokarting and it paid for itself with in a year of racing only mine was $1000. 20 bucks to mount and dismount tires adds up quickly. How much does a full size tire machine go for?

Exactly the math I was thinking!

The pair of these are are about $2,200 delivered on ebay... new with warranty... would be a bit of 2 years to payback for me, I think... and should hold some value if I ever sell down the road

Oh well that's not bad at all, plus it's way more convient to do it at home then take it to a shop. I say go for it :tup: Forewarn though people we be nicer to you and ask to borrow it lol.

Hmm, I get my race tires mounted for $10 each, would need to mount 50 full sets of tires to get payback. The convenience factor would be huge though.

I've been thinking the same thing. Discount has upped their charge to 140 for a swap out now. I was actually thinking of just getting a mounter and taking them to be balanced afterwards, at least initially. I could also use it in my business here too, since people always want to bring me their wheels with the tires on for coating.

Forgot to mention I also split the tire machine cost with a buddy I race with. So if your looking for a faster return on your investment and don't mind sharing. Thats another option :tiphat:

I have the opportunity to swap out my company car... the 135 convertible is honestly a bit boring... suspension is squishy, which defeats the purpose of the car IMO.

Has to be new. Prob no convertible this time. What's your top pick? Already in the stable are '08 ISF, '12 Tundra and of course the Z... so this will be really a fun weekend car for me when not at the track. Would be great to have room for junior and the missus, e.g., 911 or GTR.

Shoot - was going to say Cayman R, til I saw "Room for junior"...

Room for Jr? G37S Coupe

The new 991 is a beautiful car... I had the chance to ride in a friend's 2012 GTR Black Edition for the first time this weekend and I think my heart stopped... Also, you may want to see what the new SRT Viper has to offer when it's announced next month. The new CLS or M5... really, there are a lot of choices under $100k.

All of the cars mentioned so far are on the table... ideally, I want room for three passengers, but this will be my car and we can fit the three of us in the other two vehicles... so a two-spot is not out of the question

current list

1. 911 991 S
2. R8
3. 2013 Cayman... or new Boxster
4. GTR... Love this car! don't like the cheap-ish interior though
5. Z06... need to grow a mullett - still a great car

If we ever get an M5 or Merc, it'd be as a replacement for the wife's ISF

I need speed!

I need to review the terms of the program, but I may be able to pull off something more fun. Has to come with license plates, but... Ariel Atom ?

Wish the new NSX was in my price range!

Will keep my eye on Viper announcements

I feel like the 911 and Cayman, while awesome cars, are so much closer to the Z categorically, it doesn't add much stylistic depth to your stable :). R8 I think with most option sets would tip over the $100K mark, in many cases by a good chunk. GTR would be be my personal choice from the set, if I were in the same boat. You could use some leftover budget to have someone fix up the interior to be snazzier :)