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Nitrouz 01-07-2011 12:47 AM

just drifted through some corners on my way home....man I missed these controlled and prolonged drifts.....it's so much fun!

chops 01-07-2011 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 884333)
Weird because in my parking spot it seems a lot narrower than the GTR...possibly by 2-3 inches.

Anyways the GTR just feels big...especially when going under 80mph. Above that, you can manhandle it like a miata..... ok maybe not to that extent but you get the idea...

you're correct. 75" wide vs 72.6" on the Z

Nitrouz 01-07-2011 01:29 AM

That's what I thought...thanks chops!

Gunzero 01-07-2011 02:09 AM

awesome guy, awesome thread :)

docaam 01-07-2011 03:11 AM

nice write man

HKYStormFront 01-07-2011 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 884332)
Thanks bro! The GTR will walk a normal Gallardo. A tuned GTR like mine would walk a LP560 no problem. Even then, with a superior tranny to the LP, I found the GTR boring. I drove the LP560 extensively as well, and I did not like how the clutch engaged in the tranny. Less predictable than the GR6 in the GTR. The LP was really fun to drive though, just simply because you know you're driving a Lambo. If you put the exact same driving behavior (except acceleration and hp) in a Toyota, people would be like "wtf is wrong with that Toyota?"

Lambo :nutswinger:..............hey I'm guilty too.

i'm backing alex up on this one^^ i've driven both and the lambo is fun as a "i'm going out to eat and i want everyone to see me" car while the GTR is more of a "i want to drive it all the time and i want everyone to see me" car :icon17: the lambo was too stiff for daily use and the seats, while supportive, were too stiff for my tastes. i think that you'd be better off with the GTR regardless of my nissan brand loyalty. plus if you are thinking of an 05 that means it's probably got some mileage on it and things are going to start going wrong and it's gonna get costly to repair and maintain. the GTR isn't "cheap" to maintain but it is a nissan so it won't be as much as a lambo, not to mention it will probably be more reliable overall

Nitrouz 01-13-2011 05:54 PM

T1R Coilovers......Anyone using these?

Unfortunately the numerous parts I bought from Rick@VIP is currently stuck at customs, and I'm bored of driving a stock car. A quick call to AJ Racing locally to see what they have that I can buy, and they have the T1R coilovers in stock. My H&R Springs from Rick@VIP may get here any day now, but I can't stand the stock height anymore. So I might just go and buy these coilovers tomorrow. Couldn't find much info here though.

I've had T1R parts on my GTR and the 420ztt before so I know the brand is of quality.

These spring rates are 12 F and 8 R. Good for street driving and mountain carving while maintaining comfort. Adjustability can drop the car by 2 inches or so. 46mm monotube design and 24 way compression and rebound adjustable. No pillowball mount, but high tension urethane bushing, so no noise over bumps.

I can't stand driving a stock car anymore so I'll buy these and install them tomorrow. I'll give a review of them here afterwards. Great price too.

Type One Racing :: Suspension & Brakes :: Fairlady 370Z (Z34) :: T1R B52 Damper kit - Nissan 370Z 09+ (Z34)

RCZ 01-13-2011 06:51 PM

really? You have springs coming and you're buying coilovers that you dont know anything about?

Not to criticize man, and Im trying to follow the though process, but it does seem like the most sound decision. I realize money isnt a factor here, but :icon14:.

Anyhow, :driving: its your car!

djpathfinder 01-13-2011 08:00 PM

He's had them on his GT-R and previous Z so he has an idea about the brand's quality.

Alex, you do sound obsessive-compulsive. Ha ha. In the last post you start by saying "maybe I'll buy them" to two paragraphs later saying "I'm definitely buying" (well maybe exactly in this words). LOL. In my opinion, if you want to lower the car and are concerned about performance, quality of ride and a balance between shock and spring, then coilovers are the way to go. Afterwards, get your car corner balanced once you find the desired ride height...it'll greatly improve handling for sure. :tup:

$1500 CDN is a decent price too.

Nitrouz 01-13-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 893908)
really? You have springs coming and you're buying coilovers that you dont know anything about?

Not to criticize man, and Im trying to follow the though process, but it does seem like the most sound decision. I realize money isnt a factor here, but :icon14:.

Anyhow, :driving: its your car!

I've ridden and driven T1R equipped cars before (S2k) and I loved the handling on the street, even though it's a little to the soft side. Just wondering if anyone has these on their Z yet and can give some feedback.

It's like me having the hypermax 3's on my GTR and asking owners here to see if they have it on their Z and can give some feedback. Different weight, different power, different purpose, which can result in different characteristics when pushed hard, even though I've experienced it on another car.

djpathfinder 01-13-2011 09:13 PM

There's a lot of KW V3 and Tein MonoFlex fans here. A little pricier but really good quality. You could argue that they are more race/competition oriented but I don't find my Teins too harsh for daily driving.

Jamaica 01-13-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 894073)
There's a lot of KW V3 and Tein MonoFlex fans here. A little pricier but really good quality. You could argue that they are more race/competition oriented but I don't find my Teins too harsh for daily driving.

I have KW V3 and thought it was the best in the world and tried hks hypermax and Powertrix and i feel like a dumba$$ to only say KW is the best. Bomb a$$ coilovers but I found the ones that are better then my KW

shaun66 01-13-2011 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 894075)
I have KW V3 and thought it was the best in the world and tried hks hypermax and Powertrix and i feel like a dumba$$ to only say KW is the best. Bomb a$$ coilovers but I found the ones that are better then my KW

I'm sorry are you saying KWs are better or worse than HKS and powertrix?

Jamaica 01-13-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shaun66 (Post 894094)
I'm sorry are you saying KWs are better or worse than HKS and powertrix?

Im saying Powertrix in my opinion are better then KW and HKS. I have both sets on my car and test on track and on the road. I feel that Powertrix is better. They have a huge presence in the 300z community. Ask Rick at VIP STATUS he has em on his car and a few other members also.

shaun66 01-13-2011 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 894105)
Im saying Powertrix in my opinion are better then KW and HKS. I have both sets on my car and test on track and on the road. I feel that Powertrix is better. They have a huge presence in the 300z community. Ask Rick at VIP STATUS he has em on his car and a few other members also.

Oh ok gotcha. thanks for the info. :tiphat:

209Z 01-13-2011 10:23 PM

whats price range on powertrix?

Nitrouz 01-13-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 894073)
There's a lot of KW V3 and Tein MonoFlex fans here. A little pricier but really good quality. You could argue that they are more race/competition oriented but I don't find my Teins too harsh for daily driving.

The V3's are ok...I've had them on the 420ztt but moved on to the Hypermax 3's and couldn't be happier. I've had Teins on the 420ztt as well but didn't like them too much.

Oh well if I don't like the T1R's, I'll go buy the Hypermax 3's.

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 01:57 AM

Alright...here it is. T1R coilovers installed. I borrowed the hoist in a friend's shop and installed the coilovers, the Stillen G3 Intake, and the EVO-R CF rear diffuser.

The coilovers was straight forward to install. You'll see a few pics at the bottom of this post. I lowered the car by about 1 1/2 inches front and rear. Got rid of the gap. After I get my CF kit and my aggressive wheels, I may lower it even more to achieve the stance I want, and then corner balance.

Sorry I don't have any pics DURING the installs as my hands were greasy and dirty...didn't want to hold my camera like that.

My first impression of these coilovers...well first of all, I have it adjusted to full stiff setting. It's just beginning the break in process, but initial thoughts are that these are great street coilovers. Easy for carving the corners, and with full acceleration the nose doesn't dip much. With the dramatically decreased body roll, the car reacts to left / right change of direction very fast. It makes the car a lot more responsive. Over bumps and rocks, it's very apparent. However it doesn't hop or jump. It swallows up the small bumps. Lets you know that it's there, but takes care of it. I like that. With some sway bars, this would be a great back road carving machine. I'm loving it.

Stillen G3 Intakes - GODDAMN that was a pain in the *** to install. Took me a good 3 hours to install. I got it done without removing the front strut brace, but it would have made it a lot easier with it off. It has a little growl after 3k rpms. There is also a pretty apparent "punch" after 4k rpms. I didn't expect this much difference on the butt dyno. Pleasant surprise. $300 slightly used made this a great bang for the buck mod.

Rear CF diffuser - Fits pretty well. Wish it was just ever so slightly longer to fit perfectly into the groove. To keep it on, instead of drilling through the bumper and the diffuser, I used window silicone. This puppy ain't going anywhere. Looks great!

Oh and as a bonus...my parts from VIP Status finally came in! Well just the HKS Hi-Power exhaust and MXP resonated test pipes, and the H&R springs which I'm going to be selling. My CF kit did not arrive for some reason...:( I'm going to install my exhaust and test pipes next Wednesday. Then just my kit and wheels to complete my first phase of mods!! And the car isn't even 2 weeks old yet! LOL...

Before:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/256/img0090c.jpg

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8660/img0099cxg.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6994/img0103dj.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8742/img0101sh.jpg

After:

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2531/img0112iq.jpg

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4895/img0114kq.jpg

metz 01-15-2011 02:03 AM

Looking good. I ordered my kit in November and still haven't gotten it yet either.

Ztoon 01-15-2011 02:46 AM

Hey Alex, looking good man!!

You're probably already aware, just thought I'd mention it anyway, the G3's are notorious for rubbing through the AC lines.
Rubber wrapped around with a zip-tie does the fix.

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ztoon (Post 895772)
Hey Alex, looking good man!!

You're probably already aware, just thought I'd mention it anyway, the G3's are notorious for rubbing through the AC lines.
Rubber wrapped around with a zip-tie does the fix.

Wow no I didn't know that. But I guess I'll be wrapping it up sometime next week when I have time...probably when I install my test pipes and exhaust.

Thanks for the tip bro!

Gunzero 01-15-2011 03:54 AM

watching your z build gives me great pleasure :p

RCZ 01-15-2011 11:20 AM

Looks good. Needs alignment...the reason the steering feels so fast is because of all the negative camber you just added by lowering the car...

kevr6 01-15-2011 12:05 PM

Cracks me up that there is no snow in that picture & we have snow here in ATL.

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 895986)
Looks good. Needs alignment...the reason the steering feels so fast is because of all the negative camber you just added by lowering the car...

Already aligned. Running -1.7 front and -2.0 rear camber. The "steering feels fast" I was referring to was the balanced feel of the car and the lack of body roll, not traction.

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kevr6 (Post 896018)
Cracks me up that there is no snow in that picture & we have snow here in ATL.

LOL...it was snowing here 2 days ago, but melted the next morning by rain, and we had an afternoon of sunshine yesterday. :tiphat:

djpathfinder 01-15-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 895778)
Wow no I didn't know that. But I guess I'll be wrapping it up sometime next week when I have time...probably when I install my test pipes and exhaust.

Thanks for the tip bro!

There are two AC lines situated under the driver side intake tube near the front of the car (just behind the curved part of the tube and in front of the area where you had to make the cut in the plastic frame). A piece of rubber heater hose or similar zip tied around the AC lines (I did both of them just for safe measure) will prevent the rubbing. The AC lines are only on the driver side...none on the passenger side. :tup:

djpathfinder 01-15-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 896028)
Already aligned. Running -1.7 front and -2.0 rear camber. The "steering feels fast" I was referring to was the balanced feel of the car and the lack of body roll, not traction.

Did you install front and rear camber kits too?

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 896065)
There are two AC lines situated under the driver side intake tube near the front of the car (just behind the curved part of the tube and in front of the area where you had to make the cut in the plastic frame). A piece of rubber heater hose or similar zip tied around the AC lines (I did both of them just for safe measure) will prevent the rubbing. The AC lines are only on the driver side...none on the passenger side. :tup:

Yup I know where they are...I installed the intake myself lol. I didn't know it would eat through the AC line. I'll take the bumper off and wrap it next week when my kit comes in and need to be installed.

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 896072)
Did you install front and rear camber kits too?

nope.

djpathfinder 01-15-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 896076)
nope.

If not, then how did you have the front camber adjusted to -1.7? Did it just end up like that? When I did my alignment after dropping on coilovers, they couldn't adjust the rear to -2.0 without a camber kit. -2.4 was the most they could correct to with the OEM parts. That's why I was curious.

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 896088)
If not, then how did you have the front camber adjusted to -1.7? Did it just end up like that? When I did my alignment after dropping on coilovers, they couldn't adjust the rear to -2.0 without a camber kit. -2.4 was the most they could correct to with the OEM parts. That's why I was curious.

I'm not sure...it was just printed out to me at the alignment shop. I was pleasantly surprised too.

djpathfinder 01-15-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 896075)
Yup I know where they are...I installed the intake myself lol. I didn't know it would eat through the AC line. I'll take the bumper off and wrap it next week when my kit comes in and need to be installed.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound like a nag, or make it seem like I don't think you know what you're doing. LOL. When I did my G3's I had to dig into some early G3 posts to find out about the problem and where it was located. From one of your earlier posts, it sounded like you didn't realize about the known problem, so I assumed you haven't come across the same posts. Thought I would give you the 50 words or less version to save you from having to dig and read. Again, I apologize for making that assumption. :tup:

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 896096)
Sorry, didn't mean to sound like a nag, or make it seem like I don't think you know what you're doing. LOL. When I did my G3's I had to dig into some early G3 posts to find out about the problem and where it was located. From one of your earlier posts, it sounded like you didn't realize about the known problem, so I assumed you haven't come across the same posts. Thought I would give you the 50 words or less version to save you from having to dig and read. Again, I apologize for making that assumption. :tup:

no not at all. I really appreciate your input! :tup:

djpathfinder 01-15-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 896090)
I'm not sure...it was just printed out to me at the alignment shop. I was pleasantly surprised too.

Oh well, it worked out well for you then. The front camber is not adjustable with the OEM upper control arm. Unfortunately, my front camber was really out of whack (-1.0 on the left and -1.6 on the right) after lowering, so I ended up getting front and rear kits to bring my alignment to -2.2 front and -2.0 rear.

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 896104)
Oh well, it worked out well for you then. The front camber is not adjustable with the OEM upper control arm. Unfortunately, my front camber was really out of whack (-1.0 on the left and -1.6 on the right) after lowering, so I ended up getting front and rear kits to bring my alignment to -2.2 front and -2.0 rear.

I might go even lower after I get my kit installed...so I might have camber issues then. We'll see.

djpathfinder 01-15-2011 10:23 PM

Ha ha, I'm sure Vancouver streets are better than Edmonton streets. I have a 3/4" front drop and 1/2" rear, and I scrape more often than I like, and I'm pretty careful.

So, what was it like to have Lambo doors on your old 350Z? What did you like about that style door, and what did you not like about them? Any special considerations to consider (e.g. caution with underground parking with ceilings less than x feet of height)?

Nitrouz 01-15-2011 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 896724)
Ha ha, I'm sure Vancouver streets are better than Edmonton streets. I have a 3/4" front drop and 1/2" rear, and I scrape more often than I like, and I'm pretty careful.

So, what was it like to have Lambo doors on your old 350Z? What did you like about that style door, and what did you not like about them? Any special considerations to consider (e.g. caution with underground parking with ceilings less than x feet of height)?

That's weird I have about double your drop, and my camber is more in spec...

Lambo Doors? It was just a ricer kid fantasy I've had and needed to get out of my system. Popped the cherry, and I'm good now. Never again lol. It was fun for the first month though. After that, I don't bother lifting it up anymore...just open and shut. The doors you have to open normally until about 30 degrees, then you push up to lift the hydraulics. I just open to the 30 degree mark and close normally after a month. It doesn't raise that high that you have to worry about where you park. But it chews up your door inner panel though, as the guide pin isn't always fluid or accurate.

djpathfinder 01-16-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 896759)
That's weird I have about double your drop, and my camber is more in spec...

Lambo Doors? It was just a ricer kid fantasy I've had and needed to get out of my system. Popped the cherry, and I'm good now. Never again lol. It was fun for the first month though. After that, I don't bother lifting it up anymore...just open and shut. The doors you have to open normally until about 30 degrees, then you push up to lift the hydraulics. I just open to the 30 degree mark and close normally after a month. It doesn't raise that high that you have to worry about where you park. But it chews up your door inner panel though, as the guide pin isn't always fluid or accurate.

I also have 15 and 20 mm spacers, which will also increase negative camber...that's why. After the drop and before alignment my rear camber was -2.9.

I was just curious about the liveability of Lambo doors. Good to get some insight. But, Lambo doors should really just stay on a Lambo, IMO.

Nitrouz 01-16-2011 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 896765)
I also have 15 and 20 mm spacers, which will also increase negative camber...that's why. After the drop and before alignment my rear camber was -2.9.

I was just curious about the liveability of Lambo doors. Good to get some insight. But, Lambo doors should really just stay on a Lambo, IMO.

I agree. However a funny fact is that the first "Lambo door" was found on the 1968 Alfa Romeo Carabo concept car due to it's poor rear visibility. Lambo took that idea and created the first production vehicle with the "Lambo doors" due to the same issue...poor visibility.

With our poor shoulder checking visibility, we should have gullwing doors.

And funny that the gallardo doesn't have lambo doors at all... and from what I heard the new Murc replacement will do away with the lambo doors as well.

My fav doors now is the Aston Martin's....simple, unique, elegant, subtle.


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