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rayZinbrand 03-23-2020 05:39 PM

VR30 Swapped 370z
 
I’m currently doing a VR30 swap on my Z and I’m kind of wondering who else is out there that has done it. More and more keep surfacing the more I dig.

But, I’m going to post everything needed to continue both on this forum and on YouTube. I’m hoping we can all share info and tips for anyone else that is interested!

https://youtu.be/TKJvTjEwr_0

Rusty 03-23-2020 07:24 PM

Get in touch with MAM and Z1. They both worked on the Club Sport.

Spooler 03-23-2020 07:38 PM

Why would you bother? You can do a top of the line Fast Intentions TT kit with supporting mods for about the same price I would suspect and get more power.

cv129 03-23-2020 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3917629)
Get in touch with MAM and Z1. They both worked on the Club Sport.

And Z1 subsequently built one on its own too, an all out time attack car tho.

Spooler 03-23-2020 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3917650)
And Z1 subsequently built one on its own too, an all out time attack car tho.

The Z1 time attach car is not a VR30 motor. It is a VQ37 with different heads with no VVEL and a standalone ECU.

cv129 03-23-2020 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3917662)
The Z1 time attach car is not a VR30 motor. It is a VQ37 with different heads with no VVEL and a standalone ECU.

I stand corrected

AlWakRa 03-24-2020 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3917675)
I stand corrected


They actually did the swap on their time attack car, but I think it was a temporary swap.

Whjaxn17 03-24-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3917662)
The Z1 time attach car is not a VR30 motor. It is a VQ37 with different heads with no VVEL and a standalone ECU.

The white track car that's been around for a while has the VR30. It was at ZDayz last year, as well as the Club Sport car.

The newest SEMA build car is a CJM TT VQ37.

rayZinbrand 03-24-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3917636)
Why would you bother? You can do a top of the line Fast Intentions TT kit with supporting mods for about the same price I would suspect and get more power.

FI TT kit is a lot more expensive so far. Between complete motor with the turbos and transmission (sold the auto trans) I’m under $2k vs $10k+.

But the BEST reason is why not 🙃.

It was a idea while shooting the sh*ts at the shop and then I thought “why not”. But the difference in price is so far not a fair comparison.

Total spent as of now: $1,700.

rayZinbrand 03-24-2020 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3917629)
Get in touch with MAM and Z1. They both worked on the Club Sport.

I reached out to John at Z1 and received zero help. I’d LOVE to, but I suppose they want to keep them as industry secrets.


I do plan to air out everything 100%. I figured that’s why I’m getting no help from companies, but from the Z community itself.

cv129 03-24-2020 04:48 PM

Looks like you are doing the work yourself. That will explain the difference in cost vs an FI kit.

Spooler 03-24-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rayZinbrand (Post 3917953)
I reached out to John at Z1 and received zero help. I’d LOVE to, but I suppose they want to keep them as industry secrets.


I do plan to air out everything 100%. I figured that’s why I’m getting no help from companies, but from the Z community itself.

Your best beat is to contact MA-Motorsports and see what they say. They did the first one. They made the first bell housing adapter and clutch setup. That is how Z1 learned how to do it because Nissan brought the clubsport to them for some tune tweaking.

rayZinbrand 03-24-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3917956)
Looks like you are doing the work yourself. That will explain the difference in cost vs an FI kit.

If you include the labor for the TT kit it’d be a bit more also. I’m not knowledgeable about if anything needs to be moved or if it comes with the fuel kit needed.

But I’m assuming you guys will be right. It might near the cost after all the bits and pieces add up. For sure a lot of fun so far lol.

Spooler 03-24-2020 04:54 PM

Contact jon@ma-motorsports.com and see what he says. Like I said, they did the first one.

rayZinbrand 03-24-2020 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3917960)
Contact jon@ma-motorsports.com and see what he says. Like I said, they did the first one.

I actually just called and then emailed! This is exactly why I decided to make a thread about this! I’ll let you know what the outcome is. Thank you, brother.

OptionZero 03-25-2020 01:00 PM

If any company could do a smoggable vr30 swap with a 6 speed, I’d probably pay more for that than any tt kit on the market

Jayhovah 03-25-2020 01:52 PM

Subbed for awesome-potential.

rayZinbrand 03-25-2020 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jayhovah (Post 3918272)
subbed for awesome-potential.

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

rayZinbrand 03-25-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3918256)
If any company could do a smoggable vr30 swap with a 6 speed, I’d probably pay more for that than any tt kit on the market

So far it’s not hard at all and just need a few supporting mods.... so far lol

OptionZero 03-25-2020 10:39 PM

i imagine the wiring is the biggest bitch

Ultrakla$$ic 03-26-2020 02:38 PM

Is it done yet??? https://themustangsource.com/forums/.../stickpoke.gif I've been keeping up with you on Youtube. Not trying to rush BUT HURRY!!:tup:!

Dentt42 03-26-2020 02:42 PM

It's awesome that you pulled this off, and for a budget that is within just about any enthusiast's reach. Hell, being originally from South Florida, I'm proud you guys are out of Miami.

That said, I find your videos unwatchable as an observer that's interested in the details of the build. If you want a higher view count, focusing a lot more on tech and less on your friends shooting the **** would make a big difference. I'd suggest editing down what you have to make a compressed overview.

rayZinbrand 03-26-2020 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dentt42 (Post 3918591)
It's awesome that you pulled this off, and for a budget that is within just about any enthusiast's reach. Hell, being originally from South Florida, I'm proud you guys are out of Miami.

That said, I find your videos unwatchable as an observer that's interested in the details of the build. If you want a higher view count, focusing a lot more on tech and less on your friends shooting the **** would make a big difference. I'd suggest editing down what you have to make a compressed overview.

No doubt! I respect that feedback, but I have to stay true to myself. My videos are vlogs of my friends and I shooting the sh*ts 😅. Having a lot of views would be great, but I’m cool with building a crowd that vibes with that. After this feedback I’ll make sure to record more of the process so it’s a more technical overview. I just didn’t think anyone would care to see a VQ pulled when we all want to see the VR put in.

Bro, I REALLY hope this stays in budget. It’d be a fun and different alternative. I feel like we’re all doing the same thing and it was time to put some more life into the Z34.

Thank you for the feedback, brother!

rayZinbrand 03-26-2020 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultrakla$$ic (Post 3918589)
Is it done yet??? https://themustangsource.com/forums/.../stickpoke.gif I've been keeping up with you on Youtube. Not trying to rush BUT HURRY!!:tup:!

Slowed down because my buddy’s shop got a bit busy. I’m on lockdown and have the VR at home. We’re putting it in our n Sat 🙏🏽🥶. Hoping it bolts up directly as everyone says.

Dentt42 03-27-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rayZinbrand (Post 3918772)
Slowed down because my buddy’s shop got a bit busy. I’m on lockdown and have the VR at home. We’re putting it in our n Sat 🙏🏽🥶. Hoping it bolts up directly as everyone says.

How do you plan on integrating all of the engine management? I would love to take something like this on one day if I knew how to wire it up.

NecioVato 03-27-2020 01:39 PM

so total noob question (stupid question time yay!!) but if this all just bolts up - would it then be easier to upgrade to bigger turbo down the line since everything within that engine pretty much setup for a TT setup?

Also - i've checking out your channel on YT as well - this could/will be an interesting build - can't wait to see how it goes etc.

hrtbrknprince 03-27-2020 02:54 PM

Very cool. Many people have been interested in this for a long time. Maybe an affordable option for this swap will be made after all.

rayZinbrand 03-27-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dentt42 (Post 3918971)
How do you plan on integrating all of the engine management? I would love to take something like this on one day if I knew how to wire it up.

@MiamiZParts will be making a harness for me. Apparently it connects (Q50/60 harness) with the z34 BCM very well. Either that or blow budget and get a stand alone.

rayZinbrand 03-27-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NecioVato (Post 3918972)
so total noob question (stupid question time yay!!) but if this all just bolts up - would it then be easier to upgrade to bigger turbo down the line since everything within that engine pretty much setup for a TT setup?

Also - i've checking out your channel on YT as well - this could/will be an interesting build - can't wait to see how it goes etc.


Maybe because you lose out on AC and PS (We found solutions but we have test it out) or maybe they think it’s a more complicated process. Who knows.
It’s smarter to upgrade the turbos with the motor out but I want to capture all the stages I’m going through. I hope to have it all laid out for everyone.

Dentt42 03-30-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rayZinbrand (Post 3918980)
@MiamiZParts will be making a harness for me. Apparently it connects (Q50/60 harness) with the z34 BCM very well. Either that or blow budget and get a stand alone.

It would be a shame to lose climate control anywhere in FL ;). I hope Miami Z Parts can get some info put up about services like the harness mod.
Good luck!

rayZinbrand 03-30-2020 12:05 PM

Finally got to test fit and it’s insane how How smooth this went! Also listened to the feedback and had fun with it. I’ll post in depth photos tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/yA7zVYuf_lI

rayZinbrand 03-30-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dentt42 (Post 3919757)
It would be a shame to lose climate control anywhere in FL ;). I hope Miami Z Parts can get some info put up about services like the harness mod.
Good luck!

I knowwww 😭 But I don’t consider it a priority. Once the car is running I’m going to attack the PS and AC. The AC should be easy. It looks like I just need to fab one bracket to make it fit.

Dentt42 03-30-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rayZinbrand (Post 3919812)
I knowwww 😭 But I don’t consider it a priority. Once the car is running I’m going to attack the PS and AC. The AC should be easy. It looks like I just need to fab one bracket to make it fit.

You're making solid progress, man. The VR sitting in the bay of your Z in that last vid shows a ton of promise. Congrats!

1/4atatime 03-30-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rayZinbrand (Post 3919804)
Finally got to test fit and it’s insane how How smooth this went! Also listened to the feedback and had fun with it. I’ll post in depth photos tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/yA7zVYuf_lI

I've been watching your videos and looking forward to the first drive. Still have my doubts if this is more economic than a turbo setup with all the custom fab and special parts needed. Especially factoring in the cost of a shop doing it. Still I'm looking forward to updates on this keep up the hard work.

rayZinbrand 03-30-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3919836)
I've been watching your videos and looking forward to the first drive. Still have my doubts if this is more economic than a turbo setup with all the custom fab and special parts needed. Especially factoring in the cost of a shop doing it. Still I'm looking forward to updates on this keep up the hard work.

Tbh, what scares me is the process of the harness and how much it’ll cost lmao. I have a feeling that and fixing the electrical PS issue will be where the money goes.
Thank you for supporting, bro! It’s very motivating to keep doing this 😁

rayZinbrand 03-30-2020 09:07 PM

If you watched the video you see that the VR30DDTT fits like a glove in the Z34 chassis. I was expecting a lot of fab work for the plumbing and some kind of clearance issue on the sides, but it just drops in.

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I took some pictures so you guys can get a bit more detail. Just ignore the shirts plugging the BOV couplers (I’ll install the HKS BOV 100% this weekend). Overall it’s so far so good. Only issue I’m dealing with is having the transmission (keeping it 6 speed) line up as two holes don’t match.

I’m ordering new motor mounts and the coolant line kit from CZP to have a clean look and just get new hoses to kinda refresh. Also, I want to do the seals to refresh the motor.

I’m 10 out of 10 excited and glad I decided to take on the project! So far I’m under $2k total spent. Let’s see where I’m at next week!

Spooler 03-30-2020 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rayZinbrand (Post 3919969)
IfOnly issue I’m dealing with is having the transmission (keeping it 6 speed) line up as two holes don’t match.

Didn't I tell you that you would need a bellhousing adaptor, clutch and flywheel setup. to make it fit correctly.

rayZinbrand 03-30-2020 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3919991)
Didn't I tell you that you would need a bellhousing adaptor, clutch and flywheel setup. to make it fit correctly.

You’d have to find a company that makes them. The flywheel is the only one of part I needed. Looks like I’ll be working on the bell housing myself.

gbrettin 04-03-2020 01:12 PM

Interesting swap. Did you land on the VR30DDTT exclusively because of price and compatibility?

I don't blame you if you did. I'm working on an LS swap and getting everything built and changed over to how I want it is some work.... A lot of work.

rayZinbrand 04-03-2020 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 3921090)
Interesting swap. Did you land on the VR30DDTT exclusively because of price and compatibility?

I don't blame you if you did. I'm working on an LS swap and getting everything built and changed over to how I want it is some work.... A lot of work.


It was an idea entirely thought out of boredom lol. Just to see if we could do it. Then it turned into “is this cheaper than a FI kit”. Now it’s “let’s just do it” lol.
I am trying to budget as strict as possible so the regular enthusiast can make the same move if they like.

Good luck on your LS swap! I’ve always wanted to give that a go.


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