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eastwest2300 09-05-2013 07:01 PM

Im with you Cody on this one bro.. so what REALLY is the difference between a PS3 and PS4 besides hardware???

MyKindaGuise 09-05-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2474735)
Im with you Cody on this one bro.. so what REALLY is the difference between a PS3 and PS4 besides hardware???

Totally new OS. Both consoles are much closer to PCs now.

b1adesofcha0s 09-05-2013 08:33 PM

I think they're being marketed as 4K capable or something, but not sure how that's gonna work.

eastwest2300 09-05-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2474861)
I think they're being marketed as 4K capable or something, but not sure how that's gonna work.

You gotta have a tv thats built to display that resolution.

Red__Zed 09-05-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2474883)
You gotta have a tv thats built to display that resolution.

that's the easy part. HDMI 2.0 interface on the box is tough. Sony has been silent on the matter...

4r3s 09-06-2013 07:05 AM

The games will not be in 4k. This time around you get native 1080p for your games. Welcome to 8 years ago on the pc. The consoles are going to be capable of upconverting bluray movies from 1080p to 4K at some point in the future. Consoles are so uninspiring in their design. I get why they do it and all but it really sucks that they never try to push the envelope, just play it safe because their afraid hardware will get too expensive for the masses.

eastwest2300 09-06-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2475251)
The games will not be in 4k. This time around you get native 1080p for your games. Welcome to 8 years ago on the pc. The consoles are going to be capable of upconverting bluray movies from 1080p to 4K at some point in the future. Consoles are so uninspiring in their design. I get why they do it and all but it really sucks that they never try to push the envelope, just play it safe because their afraid hardware will get too expensive for the masses.

very true..

Red__Zed 09-06-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2475251)
The games will not be in 4k. This time around you get native 1080p for your games. Welcome to 8 years ago on the pc. The consoles are going to be capable of upconverting bluray movies from 1080p to 4K at some point in the future. Consoles are so uninspiring in their design. I get why they do it and all but it really sucks that they never try to push the envelope, just play it safe because their afraid hardware will get too expensive for the masses.

That's the niche consoles fill though. If you want more, PC gaming is there. There's a lot of demand for $300-400 systems that you can play with your friends.

4r3s 09-06-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2475349)
That's the niche consoles fill though. If you want more, PC gaming is there. There's a lot of demand for $300-400 systems that you can play with your friends.

yeah I know, its just frustrating to me that the overall market and new technology adoption rates are seriously slowed down because of **** like this. We are getting in our own way too often nowadays.

MyKindaGuise 09-06-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2475251)
The games will not be in 4k. This time around you get native 1080p for your games. Welcome to 8 years ago on the pc. The consoles are going to be capable of upconverting bluray movies from 1080p to 4K at some point in the future. Consoles are so uninspiring in their design. I get why they do it and all but it really sucks that they never try to push the envelope, just play it safe because their afraid hardware will get too expensive for the masses.

Pretty much how I feel. PC world is so held back by these puny consoles. I am glad we are finally seeing a bump now so that our games can look better. Its just disappointing. Things would be so much better if they raised the prices and dropped a 7850/7870 in there.

eastwest2300 09-06-2013 11:03 AM

Thats just the thing, most consumers dont want to spend $500 on consoles even if they had PC type components that were "better"

4r3s 09-06-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 2475682)
Thats just the thing, most consumers dont want to spend $500 on consoles even if they had PC type components that were "better"

Last time I checked that's what the new consoles are being priced at right? $500

MyKindaGuise 09-06-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2475822)
Last time I checked that's what the new consoles are being priced at right? $500

Correct. Honestly if they made them 600-700 it would be worth it once everyone saw the payoff. The important thing to remember is this is the first generation running x86. This is also the first gen with PC os integration. What I'm getting at is next gen we will just have PCs. no more consoles.

Red__Zed 09-06-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2475822)
Last time I checked that's what the new consoles are being priced at right? $500

$399 for PS4. Any higher and you'd see a dramatic drop in volume.

eastwest2300 09-06-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2475822)
Last time I checked that's what the new consoles are being priced at right? $500

xbox one is $500

PS4 is $400

eastwest2300 09-06-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2475843)
$399 for PS4. Any higher and you'd see a dramatic drop in volume.

yup.

b1adesofcha0s 09-06-2013 03:15 PM

People were paying $600 for the PS3 when it first launched. I was one of them :tup:

MyKindaGuise 09-06-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2476101)
People were paying $600 for the PS3 when it first launched. I was one of them :tup:

Exactly. If these companies would just stick to their guns it would happen and no one would really stop buying their products.

eastwest2300 09-06-2013 04:57 PM

sh1t, I wouldn't spend $600 on a video game system... hell naw.

4r3s 09-10-2013 09:12 AM

I had the day off work yesterday so I stopped by Best Buy and had my first sit down in front of some 4K screens. Wow. The difference is easily the same type of jump in detail going from standard def to 1080p HD. The prices were expensive for sure, they had the $25K 84" Sony on the wall and it was beautiful, but you can get a 55" for $3.5K which seems pretty reasonable to me. Still more than I'm willing to spend on a TV right now but I'm starting to get an itch....

eastwest2300 09-10-2013 09:29 AM

Ohh bro, you and I both, i did the same thing on sunday, I just had to see it, Im totally sold on it, albeit, it is new technology, I'd say if we waited the prices will come down. I also asked the sales rep, for someone that had several blu ray movies, what would need to be done to play those movies in that resolution. He said you'd have to purchase an upconverting player which was pretty expensive as well..

So me personally, I want that type of TV, but Im gonna wait on it..

Red__Zed 09-10-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2476101)
People were paying $600 for the PS3 when it first launched. I was one of them :tup:

The ps3 didnt really see sales pick up until they dropped the price

eastwest2300 09-10-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2480487)
The ps3 didnt really see sales pick up until they dropped the price

:iagree:

eastwest2300 09-10-2013 09:45 AM

Sony is coming out with PS Vita TV, its suppose to be $100, streams movies, and former games and some other cool features... I saw a news article on it yesterday.

MyKindaGuise 09-10-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2480487)
The ps3 didnt really see sales pick up until they dropped the price

But even then it was $500 when it really hit stride so regardless people will pay.


Start next gen consoles at $800...let people complain and then drop the prices to $700. EVERYONE WINS :bowrofl:

eastwest2300 09-10-2013 10:43 AM

$400 for the PS4 will be a hard pill to swallow.. haha

4r3s 09-10-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2480600)
But even then it was $500 when it really hit stride so regardless people will pay.


Start next gen consoles at $800...let people complain and then drop the prices to $700. EVERYONE WINS :bowrofl:

On the same token, I'd rather build my own beastly computer for the majority of my gaming and picking up a ps4 that's reasonably priced for gaming when people come to visit. More expensive consoles means more money spent on them and less on the computer, for me at least.

MyKindaGuise 09-10-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2480627)
On the same token, I'd rather build my own beastly computer for the majority of my gaming and picking up a ps4 that's reasonably priced for gaming when people come to visit. More expensive consoles means more money spent on them and less on the computer, for me at least.

That's a fair argument. However the more powerful the consoles are the better the games are and that means that PC's will just go that much farther. But yeah $800 gets you a nice CPU/mobo/ram/psu/case/liquid cooler.

eastwest2300 09-10-2013 11:02 AM

computer parts... yummy.:yum:

Red__Zed 09-10-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2480600)
But even then it was $500 when it really hit stride so regardless people will pay.


Start next gen consoles at $800...let people complain and then drop the prices to $700. EVERYONE WINS :bowrofl:

If that would work, Sony and Microsoft would be all over it. They pay a lot of people a lot of money to find the sweet spot.

Honestly, at $800, I'm building something myself for a whole range of reasons, particularly because I'm interested in customization when you are talking about that level of $$.

There's also some interesting dynamics that come into play at various points. A $400-500 console sees a lot of mass-production effect, and probably compares more directly to a $600 computer. An $800 console might look like an $850 computer, which doesn't exactly make a compelling case.

MyKindaGuise 09-10-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2480665)
If that would work, Sony and Microsoft would be all over it. They pay a lot of people a lot of money to find the sweet spot.

Honestly, at $800, I'm building something myself for a whole range of reasons, particularly because I'm interested in customization when you are talking about that level of $$.

There's also some interesting dynamics that come into play at various points. A $400-500 console sees a lot of mass-production effect, and probably compares more directly to a $600 computer. An $800 console might look like an $850 computer, which doesn't exactly make a compelling case.

Honestly guys I wasn't trying to make a really serious comment. I was kind of being ridiculous. But I only mentioned that because it would make the pc gaming market grow in quality and graphics. Its just the pc elitist inside me getting tired of consoles capping us.

chieuxuan 09-10-2013 12:37 PM

Can somebody makes my Iphone faster??? :rolleyes:

eastwest2300 09-10-2013 12:56 PM

Yeah dude... its called updating your software...:roflpuke2:

MyKindaGuise 09-10-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chieuxuan (Post 2480845)
Can somebody makes my Iphone faster??? :rolleyes:

1. Go to BestBuy
2. Trade in iPhone
3. Leave with new GS4.

:p

eastwest2300 09-10-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2480916)
1. Go to BestBuy
2. Trade in iPhone
3. Leave with new GS4.

:p

hell naw.... APPLE for life fool!:rofl2:

4r3s 09-18-2013 06:52 AM

Just curious. Am I the only gamer out there that couldn't give two ***** less about GTA V?

Vicster 09-18-2013 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2493311)
Just curious. Am I the only gamer out there that couldn't give two ***** less about GTA V?

Negative.

MyKindaGuise 09-18-2013 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2493311)
Just curious. Am I the only gamer out there that couldn't give two ***** less about GTA V?

:(

eastwest2300 09-18-2013 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2493311)
Just curious. Am I the only gamer out there that couldn't give two ***** less about GTA V?

Im with you... i could care less.:p

Cristobal09 09-18-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2493311)
Just curious. Am I the only gamer out there that couldn't give two ***** less about GTA V?

Im with you to an extent. Ill wait til it goes down in price and get it used at gamestop.

I dont get too worked up about video games like I used to...unless its a Fallout series game, love that post-apocalyptic stuff.


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