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StLRedrider 08-16-2009 11:07 AM

good find banning,:tup:

IMWEZL 08-16-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 152951)
You missed the fundamental premise of the entire movie....

Z I got the movie. Come on I've been to Iraq over 3 times already and I did pay a little attention in college. Thanks for the breakdown. :tup:

Division 08-16-2009 08:38 PM

Here's a really good interview with the director, Neill Blomkamp- its long, but a good read if you've seen the movie.


District 9 director Neill Blomkamp | Film | A.V. Club

Lone Wolf 75 08-16-2009 08:43 PM

I just saw this. The presentation kind of reminds me of "Starship Troopers," but in a much better, less campy way. The cinematography was well done, action sequences with the guns and machines were shot very well. It was worth seeing on the big screen and I liked the way the action sequences were done versus "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen," which I though Michael Bay got carried away a lot throughout the movie.

Interesting plot, it kind of makes me wonder and question what it that really happened, would we (as humans) really behave that way? I feel like I shouldn't say anymore - I don't want to spoil it for anyone.

bloodo 08-17-2009 11:40 AM

Awesome movie and very original. Can't wait to see the next one.

FuszNissan 08-17-2009 11:43 AM

^^ My exact thoughts! I haven't seen an original movie like this in years! Loved it...felt sorry for them at the end.

Spikuh 08-17-2009 01:22 PM

Saw this movie a couple days ago and thought it was really well done in a refreshing way that has been lacking in main-stream movies for a few years now. I can't think of any real complaints I have with the movie which is a rare occurence these days and I'm not even that well educated in the art of movie making. :shakes head:

There were a few things I found REALLY well done in the movie.

-The transition from the documentary style movie to a real time style and then back in the end was really cool and helps to give the movie fullness and take care of a lot of questions that would have arrisen. I thought this was a genious move of their part.

-The development of the main character was well done in my opinion. It was fun to watch him go from some stupid, self-serving a-hole (I just wanted him to die for the first hour or so) to a more less-stupid, compassionate and selfless hero you expect him to be from the start.

-The pacing of the movie was well done and kept me engaged without having to use over-the-top action sequences to achieve this goal.

-The action sequences just felt right for the movie. They weren't to long, to short, or retardedly over-the-top with the hero taking center stage.

Along with Star-Trek, these two movies are easily the best of the summer in my opinion. Well... Pixar's UP was really good also so I guess its a 3 way tie for me really. :tup:

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 152078)
i really liked it the use of weapons was amazing, it had every weapon from a FPS that you always wanted to see in a movie

This director was the one who was supposed to direct the Halo movie, and when the studios basically told him no because he didn't have major credits, Peter Jackson gave him this movie to do instead. And considering Blomkamp helped write the story and that Jackson is supposedly a Halo fan, it is not suprising to me that some of this stuff has a Halo feel to it, especially the weapons.

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 152951)
You missed the fundamental premise of the entire movie....the overall underlying demeanor of the aliens was their desire to really want to just get back home and not bother the humans. The only reason they ended up at Earth in the first place for 28 years was because a fundamental component of their ship had broke and then was lost.

The cause of the aliens rioting was because they were all forcefully encamped into a small area...all 1.8 million of them. They were all living on-top of the other. That itself would cause their "urban" unrest.

The humans on the other hand were doing what they always do in in reality today...being greedy and controlling and taking pleasure from hurting others whether they were other people or aliens.

Not disagreeing with you on this at all, but this can also be seen as tackling the racism issue as we see the main character go from considering the aliens as inferior beings to seeing them as equals by the end of the movie.

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Originally Posted by Lone Wolf 75 (Post 153568)
I just saw this. The presentation kind of reminds me of "Starship Troopers," but in a much better, less campy way. The cinematography was well done, action sequences with the guns and machines were shot very well. It was worth seeing on the big screen and I liked the way the action sequences were done versus "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen," which I though Michael Bay got carried away a lot throughout the movie.

Interesting plot, it kind of makes me wonder and question what it that really happened, would we (as humans) really behave that way? I feel like I shouldn't say anymore - I don't want to spoil it for anyone.

I greatly enjoyed the first Starship Troopers just like I enjoyed this movie. It was a ton of fun in my opinion. I can't really compare the 2 movies past that point because it has been to long since I watched Starship Troopers. I also agree the action sequences were crafted much better than Transformers 2. You can actually SEE whats going on and not just this mass of CGI rolling all over the place. Really to be honest, the recent Transformers movie was a bit of a let down... Nothing new really happened in the movie and we don't see ANY new autobots or decpiticons get introduced that were of any merit. The whole movie felt like a Optimus Prime fanboy flick with some Bumblebee fluff added in for good meassure.

On the point of how would humans interact with aliens, I would fully expect us to behave this way. Especially if it happened in this sort of manner, but at the same time, how would "should" we react?

Thinking about it some, if say... tomorrow some massive alien ship just descended to surface but didn't land and then shut down, I would be pretty afraid myself because they obviously have better technology than us AND they are parked in our backyard. Chances are we wouldn't be able to communicate with them and we would have no idea if their intentions were hostile or not. I couldn't blame the governments of the world if they all decided to just shoot first and ask questions later. However, if they were peaceful, there are still huge obsticals to overcome between the species since we would not even know if humanity is capable of co-existing with them.

Anyway, I think the movie did a pretty good job in portraying how I think humanity would react if we encountered an alien species under these circumstances.

bboypuertoroc 08-17-2009 01:35 PM

Awesome movie was awesome.

It was totally different than I expected it to be.

smurfblu13 08-17-2009 11:33 PM

My general thoughts were it was completely different than what I expected. First hour or so was very slow to me and actually at time pretty boring. Last 30-45 minutes completely made up for it though.

One thing that bugged me was for anyone who has played F.E.A.R. that little machine he uses, is exactly in the game pretty much, anyone notice this?

The little son alien was a boss and for me made the movie.

BanningZ 08-17-2009 11:47 PM

Makes me think of "Power loaders" from Aliens

ZKindaGuy 08-18-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lone Wolf 75 (Post 153568)
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Interesting plot, it kind of makes me wonder and question what it that really happened, would we (as humans) really behave that way?

Ahhhh....take a good look around or listen to the nightly world news...and you even wonder whether we would behave like that?????

ZKindaGuy 08-18-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh (Post 154568)
Not disagreeing with you on this at all, but this can also be seen as tackling the racism issue as we see the main character go from considering the aliens as inferior beings to seeing them as equals by the end of the movie.
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The first parallel I thought the director was trying to lead the audience to is a parallel with the Guantánamo Bay Detention Camp. I think the director was hanging his premise on two things....the detaining of alien innocents and the torture of the camp detainees.

If the director was trying to lead the audience into making this parallel in order to make an implicit political statement about the United States and Guantánamo then I think he stretched the parallel too far as I see the District 9 camp as a "far distant" parallel as the root cause for Guantánamo is a polar opposite.

Lone Wolf 75 08-19-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh (Post 154568)
I greatly enjoyed the first Starship Troopers just like I enjoyed this movie. It was a ton of fun in my opinion. I can't really compare the 2 movies past that point because it has been to long since I watched Starship Troopers. I also agree the action sequences were crafted much better than Transformers 2. You can actually SEE whats going on and not just this mass of CGI rolling all over the place. Really to be honest, the recent Transformers movie was a bit of a let down... Nothing new really happened in the movie and we don't see ANY new autobots or decpiticons get introduced that were of any merit. The whole movie felt like a Optimus Prime fanboy flick with some Bumblebee fluff added in for good meassure.

On the point of how would humans interact with aliens, I would fully expect us to behave this way. Especially if it happened in this sort of manner, but at the same time, how would "should" we react?

Thinking about it some, if say... tomorrow some massive alien ship just descended to surface but didn't land and then shut down, I would be pretty afraid myself because they obviously have better technology than us AND they are parked in our backyard. Chances are we wouldn't be able to communicate with them and we would have no idea if their intentions were hostile or not. I couldn't blame the governments of the world if they all decided to just shoot first and ask questions later. However, if they were peaceful, there are still huge obsticals to overcome between the species since we would not even know if humanity is capable of co-existing with them.

Anyway, I think the movie did a pretty good job in portraying how I think humanity would react if we encountered an alien species under these circumstances.

I liked Starship Troopers too, the campy "would you like to know more?" sequences were no doubt intentionally supposed to make you think of 1950's scifi since that is when the story was originally written. I agree, two different movies and good in their own way.

I agree totally with you on Transformers 2, it was a letdown. The introduction of Jetfire was cool, but I was really disappointed with the Destructicons. They should have been at least all the same color - I understand if they all couldn't be Caterpillar equipment, but it would have been a lot cooler if they were.

Well, I guess I am somewhat optimistic. The way the aliens were treated reminded me a lot of the way the Jews were treated in WWII, which is likely the intended response as well. I'd like to think that we'd figure out some way of communicating with them and learning thier technology, maybe developing some mutually beneficial relationship between species. But who am I kidding? We'd probably treat them even worse and either kill them all in the name of science or because they were considered an undefined threat.

blue660r01 08-19-2009 11:11 PM

i didnt like it


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