Sorry but you're incorrect here. If it is a Traffic violation you have the right to face your accuser in front of a judge before you pay any type of fine. Of course California wants you to pay and shut up and take your point. Paying the ticket is NOT mandatory and IS an admission of guilt if you pay.

That hasn't been my experience at all. I regularly fight my tickets and court clerks WILL NOT schedule you a court date before you pay your fine. If you win your case the money is then mailed back to you in the form of a check. Ofcourse that check comes roughly 8-10 months after you win because our system is just that efficient.

I've contested the notion of paying my ticket first on several occasions. All of which ending in - pay and see a judge OR don't pay and be delinquent.

So in this case, sir, you are wrong. As far as LA county is concerned anyway, it might be different up north.

Actually he's right, my last ticket (speeding) I HAD to pay the fine upfront prior to my court date, it was Mandatory. However the judge dismissed my charges because the officer didn't show :tup: approx. 2 months after the trial I received a refund check :shakes head:

Edit: I'm in Orange County, so maybe different laws where you're at.

2 months!? I still haven't received my check from beating a speeding ticket last february. They keep saying any day now :shakes head:

This MUST be a Orange county thing then (which is fucked up) but i have gotten tickets by CHP and they also give you a court date. One is from CHP and the other is city both dont impose a fine.

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^that is for your arraignment, sir. You can waive the arraignment hearing - it does nothing for you. What you CAN use the arraignment hearing for, however, is to establish your right to traffic school BEFORE you plead not guilty.

Once you plead "not guilty" then you are required to pay the bail amount first, which is your traffic fine, before a judge will actually see for your trial. I suppose this could be where the break down in communication is. What zbrah and I are talking about is the actual trial hearing, not the arraignment hearing - which are two different things.

The point of the arraignment court is to quickly process everyone who wants to plead guilty so they can pay their fine and attend traffic school. They will not hear your case if you wish to plead not guilty. What they'll do in that instance is give you a separate court date to make your case - essentially wasting about 3 hours of your time.

A U.S. suprime court set a federal law on ticket quotas. It is up to the officer to cite you or not.

Good question,
I am always on my toes. LEOS dont have the safest job in the world. When Im working im always scanning for violations. There is not set distance. But when I'm around people I try to keep a reactionary gap of 4-6 feet when Im dealing with people.

Diffrent Law Enforcement agencies have diffrent policys, My agencie had a very liberal policy, check with your local agency and ask what the persuit policy is also it depends on the charges, I.E. if the person just walked into a store and shot lets say 5 people then there is a very good chance he will do it again. Police will persue no matter what speeds are. When im running radar I normally dont even look at a car unless they are doing 15MPH over the limit, I might stop you but more then likely not give you a ticket, some people just need a wake up call to be more aware of there speed.

Line of sight, if I can see your car the radar will pick you up.

Speed limit will change as soon as you pass the sign. I dont get your second question.

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Yes, dont know why but yes they have, and BC of that I have cut them a brake one time it was for a little bit of weed. I put it in as found property so it could be destroid. Honesty goes along way with me.

Those are rookies... lol I always introduce my self and explain why I stopped you. I.E. you ran a stop sign.

actually the second ticket for the stop sign I pled not guilty hoping that the police officer wouldn't show up. they then scheduled my court date for another 2 months out. two months later I show up for court and as they're getting prepared for trials video of me going through the stop sign comes up on the screen. they gave us one more option to plead guilty or no contest before the judge came out. So since the cop was there with the video of me going through the stop sign I ended up pleading no contest then that is when they fined me $240

unfortunately I'm quite the veteran when it comes to the traffic court system here in Sacramento. The several times over the years that I've pled not guilty I've never had to pay a fine before going in front of a judge.

Here in Michigan (well at least in my city) you are allowed to turn left on red when turning onto a one way street.

I wish all poeple who are able to carry would carry. Guns are safe people hurt people. Always follow your local laws on gun carry. And a weapon should only be pulled and used if it is a life or death situation. I could go into this for ever but trying to keep it short and simple. 2nd amendment is for good.:tup:

Wave or stop and say hello if you want to, we are people too. I ahve people wave and stop me to say hi all the time, Its kinda nice to get that some times from people. And your welcome.

He has a degree thats a good thing. Its probly one of the hardest jobs to get. Just tell him not to give up he will get it. It took my 3 years of trying before I got in.



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Really? Tell this to a Texas State Trooper aka Highway Road Rapers. They will cite you for having rocks stuck in your tire treads. You sir, are quite nice. Rep for you!!

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Then it seems we're both right in our respective areas of the state. :tup:

sucks that they make you pay up front there though...that is not right at all.

I agree with you, In TN I set a court date and you can show up or pay it out of court.

Its against the law in the state of TN to have a quota. Many of my friends ask me if I have a quota. When I tell them no, they think im lying to them lol. Some departments have performance standards, which will compare one officers numbers to the shift average.

Im not a big speeding ticket writer unless I feel you are putting public safety at a risk. If youre hauling through a school zone or residential area, Ill probably give you a ticket. If you dont have insurance, you will be getting a ticket. If you run a stop sign (blatantly run it, not a slow rolling stop) or a red light, you will be getting a ticket. Anything that I feel can put others at risk. I will also give tickets for state registration. However, a slow rolling stop at a stop sign, lights (tail light, brake light, headlights), window tint, speeding on the interstate (as long as its not 100 mph lol), slight speeding on city streets (10-15 mph depending on conditions), etc, I usually do not give tickets for. Unless youre an a-hole of course lol.

Most of my traffic stops are to check for warrants, drugs, weapons, DUI, etc.

My department only pursues for a violent fleeing felon. Even for most of those, our supervisors break it off.

Given that, some officers still do it lol. They will chase off the radio. If you wreck out, the officer will turn his lights off and haul *** the opposite direction lol. We had one guy that chased a guy on a motorcycle for speeding and somehow ended up running over the motorcycle in the back yard of someones residence lol. I have no idea how that happened lol....

That is just the typical thing to say. There really isnt a specific reason most officers say that. I usually say "Hey how are you doing? The reason im stopping you is...." If you say "Do you know why I pulled you over?" that gives people the oppurtunity to say "Because im black", "Because you think im hot", and whatever other crazy stuff people can conjure up.