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m4a1mustang 08-28-2013 11:23 AM

Who do you work for?

Cell 08-28-2013 11:26 AM

Who do I work for or the OP?

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MightyBobo 08-28-2013 11:26 AM

Just want to throw my 2 cents in here: I'm absolutely tired of people saying "fck the cops". Although I wear a military uniform instead, I see them as my brothers and I respect them performing a public service that is a thankless job.

Just wanted to say, thanks for what you guys do, and keep up the good work.

m4a1mustang 08-28-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 2464865)
Who do I work for or the OP?

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The OP.

I ask only because I have engaged with officers that believe they are the law (or above the law) and then those that believe they work for the people. I meet the latter far more often than the former and highly respect them for the job they do. :)

m4a1mustang 08-28-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2464866)
Just want to throw my 2 cents in here: I'm absolutely tired of people saying "fck the cops". Although I wear a military uniform instead, I see them as my brothers and I respect them performing a public service that is a thankless job.

Just wanted to say, thanks for what you guys do, and keep up the good work.

I agree with this. There are exceptions to the rule but more often than not police do the job because they want to serve the community.

SouthArk370Z 08-28-2013 12:06 PM

For the most part, my encounters with LEOs have gone very well. With but a few exceptions, the officer was polite, efficient, and helpful. I've run into a few bad cops (usually county, for some reason), but you find that in any profession or large group of ppl. I'm glad you guys are there. Can't say I was glad to get the tickets but I was speeding. ;)

In most jobs, if you don't do something right it's not that big of a deal. You might make life inconvenient for a few ppl but nobody is going to jail or getting shot. When you have the power that LEOs have, it can be a big problem. The bar for LEOs has to be set very high. Just as a few poor drivers reflect badly on the sports car community, so too do the few bad cops affect how the public views LEOs in general.

The main thing about cops that I don't like is the prevalent attitude that exercising one's rights means you're hiding something. No, I'm not hiding anything. I just don't see any need to give up my rights merely because you are curious. If you have reasonable cause to search my car then, by all means, do so - you don't need my permission.


Now for something completely different. What's with "Do you have any illegal guns, drugs, ... in your car?" Has anybody ever answered "Yes" to that question?

Cell 08-28-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2464937)
For the most part, my encounters with LEOs have gone very well. With but a few exceptions, the officer was polite, efficient, and helpful. I've run into a few bad cops (usually county, for some reason), but you find that in any profession or large group of ppl. I'm glad you guys are there. Can't say I was glad to get the tickets but I was speeding. ;)

In most jobs, if you don't do something right it's not that big of a deal. You might make life inconvenient for a few ppl but nobody is going to jail or getting shot. When you have the power that LEOs have, it can be a big problem. The bar for LEOs has to be set very high. Just as a few poor drivers reflect badly on the sports car community, so too do the few bad cops affect how the public views LEOs in general.

The main thing about cops that I don't like is the prevalent attitude that exercising one's rights means you're hiding something. No, I'm not hiding anything. I just don't see any need to give up my rights merely because you are curious. If you have reasonable cause to search my car then, by all means, do so - you don't need my permission.


Now for something completely different. What's with "Do you have any illegal guns, drugs, ... in your car?" Has anybody ever answered "Yes" to that question?

People will answer yes to those questions. Some will answer no. I am not joking either.

Bret86944 08-28-2013 01:32 PM

Why do the police always ask "Do you know why I pulled you over?".

m4a1mustang 08-28-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bret86944 (Post 2465061)
Why do the police always ask "Do you know why I pulled you over?".

Looking for admission of guilt, probably.

fonzo179 08-28-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2465073)
Looking for admission of guilt, probably.

^This.

But my unequivically ridiculous imagination runs wild. I think of having a good laugh after telling the cop, "Because of my devilishly handsome looks"...then I get a ticket anyway :icon17:

ElVee 08-28-2013 01:53 PM

1) What position do you have for people who legally carry a handgun in their car? Good idea, risky? Should that fall under conceal carry, since I doubt anyone should leave a gun in an unattended car? Are there better alternatives for personal safety? My personal opinion is that a gun is a situation escalator, not a situation diffuser.

2) When I see a cop in a car either while driving, stopped at a stoplight, or just sitting along the road, should I wave? I know cops are people, too, and I want to be friendly and supportive, but I also don't want to draw unnecessary attention to myself (not that I'm doing anything bad) nor want to have a wave be mistaken for a more rude gesture or plea for attention/help. (Yeah, I'm in introvert!)

3) Thank you for keeping us safe. :) Law enforcement is too often heralded as an annoyance, but it's the rules and keeping people in them that backbones our culture and morals.

Zbrah 08-28-2013 02:19 PM

My buddy wants to be a police officer, he just graduated college with degree in criminal justice, any tips for him to get his start in the field?

fonzo179 08-28-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ElVee (Post 2465101)
2) When I see a cop in a car either while driving, stopped at a stoplight, or just sitting along the road, should I wave? I know cops are people, too, and I want to be friendly and supportive, but I also don't want to draw unnecessary attention to myself.

:icon17: As long as you're not here in Fargo during the "Bar Closing Hours". Cops are like Pumas (yes, the large, vicious cat): Just looking at them while you pass by prompts them to turn around and at the least ask you, "How's everything tonight? You headed home?"

Can't really blame them though. The drunk driving fatalities here in Fargo are rare because our cops OWN the night. Personally, I just go about my business. Small-town North Dakota is different though. Cops/sheriffs out in the south/southwest will wave and honk and smile all the time. :tup:

Mr&Mrs 08-28-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2464937)
Now for something completely different. What's with "Do you have any illegal guns, drugs, ... in your car?" Has anybody ever answered "Yes" to that question?

That is a technique to see the kind of reaction the person gives. Sometimes they will throw grenades or weapons of mass destruction in there as well. A normal person with nothing to hide will generally laugh a little or give a smart remark. Someone with something to hide will be dead serious and answer no or repeat the question.

Its not full proof but it is a good technique.

SouthArk370Z 08-28-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 2465239)
That is a technique to see the kind of reaction the person gives. Sometimes they will throw grenades or weapons of mass destruction in there as well. A normal person with nothing to hide will generally laugh a little or give a smart remark. Someone with something to hide will be dead serious and answer no or repeat the question.

Its not full proof but it is a good technique.

Ah. Makes sense. Thanks. Yeah, the two times I've been asked, I couldn't help but laugh - it was still funny the second time.


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