Anyone in living in california paying attention to the new law that is trying to be passed? call your senate to oppose this bill.
NRA-ILA :: Open Carry Ban Bill Passes California Senate Public Safety Committee

Nothing surprises me when it comes to Cali's nanny-state government. I'm still 50/50 on whether they fall off into the ocean due to earthquake or collapse under the weight of their failed society first. I just wish they'd go down with the ship instead of slinking over to the good states and trying to infect our politics with the same disease :P

Arizona recently passed a bill where you can conceal carry in the state no permit required... :bowdown:

this is pretty much the stupidest thing ever...
do the people in charge not realize criminals.... do not care about the law... :bowrofl:


:edit: fixed my spelling

Care*

Isamu, the only reason I correct you is I have been corrected myself twice today via text for that word being typed as "car" too... what a coincidence

lol. I apologize, I was at work, and someone was talking to me about some important stuff, and I failed to check myself...


tho, my good sir is this... great minds think alike. :tup:

I might be picking up a shotgun this weekend. :tup:

Any shotgun in particular?

Just a Remington 870 Express Tactical. If they have the folding grip + pistol grip stocks I'll get one of those too and have them put it on at the store.

Edit: I meant telescoping stock with pistol grip. Need another cup of coffee.

I might actually buy two. One for my house and another for the gf's apartment.

Just don't get sucked into the hype about loading birdshot for self defense because it penetrates walls less. The bottom line on that crap is anything that doesn't penetrate interior walls also won't slow down a determined aggressor. Just gotta learn the layout and know which directions you can safely shoot, and weight the risks properly. #1 buck usually comes up best in self-defense-oriented ammo tests for shotguns.

Yeah I am not planning on using birdshot for a defensive load. :icon17:

for all the non-gun folks... ill translate..

don't use bird shot, because it's just going to piss the person trying to kill you off. and he will be more brutal when he cuts out your kidneys to sell on the black market :tup:

.223/5.56 NATO out of a "Black Rifle" will generally penetrate typical home interior walls less than most handgun and shotgun ammo. Many people tout the 5.56 NATO round as a better home defensive round for that reason.

I'm about to buy an arsenal ak sgl21-61 probably within a week. :happydance: