No guns signs are very helpful at reducing crime. :icon17:

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A bank not far from here....

http://SSEquine.net/bansguns.jpg

I guess some of us take carrying more seriously than others. I now see why you are so defensive about your DE's. The problem you likely run into with people talking smack isn't anything to do with the firearm, however.

:icon17: Gun free zones are safe!!!

Imagine the disappointment of a potential bank robber when he finds out he can't go in there with a gun.

For a Saiga Conversion, I have no clue what you would need to make it California complient.

A bullet-button should be alright unless that specific model is banned by name on our ban list

I love guns... When I lived in NorCal we used to go up to Cow Mountain in Ukiah to shoot... since I've lived here in LA, I haven't even taken my guns out once...

so damn hooked! LOL

just ordered a Mossberg 930 Jerry Miculek Edition

I shot a Mossberg last time I went Skeet shooting I have to say I was very impressed not as much kick as say a S & W.

I still want a Kel-Tec PF9 in tan. Don't know why because it's cheap and may or may not work.

That's a good description of the KelTec PF9.

I've been following it for almost two years now. From what I can tell the first run was the most problematic... almost every one required some sort of "fluff and buff" before they would feed reliably.

Seems like the recent runs are pretty good, though still a little finicky with some ammo. For only $250 it's something I'd like to get just to toy around with and see if it works. I do like the idea.

The only other gun of similar size is the Kahr CM9. More reliable with better build quality, but still won't feed everything.

I want to like the PPS, but it's a little too long and a little too tall.

Though maybe I'll just get a PPK!

You can get a base Mossberg for $180.