I can see how the number of disks might matter for RPGs with 4 or 5 disks or something, but something like Forza with a game disk and data disk?

Actually number of disks isn't important, it is how fast you can load that data onto the hard drive. For faster load times most PS3 and Xbox360 games require the games be installed to the HD (the last Drake's for the PS3 and a Halo one or two releases back were exceptions in that they were very efficient at seamlessly steaming in the data needed).

In loading to the HD, the 360 is much faster. E.g., you can actually load both Forza game disks onto your hard drive in the time it takes to load the data from one PS3 disk onto its HD (for example it takes ages to install GT5).

They had an external add-on for it back when it came out. I don't remember how much it was, but it wasn't cheap. When HD-DVD flopped, they dropped it. It was a half-*** gamble by Microsoft and they never really committed to it. A lot of the success of Blu-ray can be traced back to the PS3.

Don't forget that Wal-Mart endorsed bluray and not HD-DVD. That can be make or break on rival technology like those 2.

Microsoft will really need to pick up bluray with their next gen.

I am an avid console gamer, it keeps me outta trouble. I could care less about micro$oft charging for Xbox Live. Its far superior to psn in many ways (speed, movie and game content, security!). 5$ a month is hardly a deal breaker. Ive only owned 4 ps3 games and prolly 50 xbox games. Playstations online chat ruined all gaming chances and thus renamed my ps3 the blu ray player.

I am a little shocked to see lotsa follwing for Sony, a couple years ago it was a WAY different story.

Like I mentioned, I have both. But I too use the PS3 mostly for Netflix and Blu-ray movies with the occasional PS3 exclusive title. For titles that come out on both consoles I almost always get the xbox version -- the graphics are typically indistinguishable, better multiplayer integration (especially chat), and (personal choice) I like the xbox controller better.

I hated my XBOX. Bought it and it collected dust for years. Finally sold it to a friend a few weeks ago. All it was good for was Left 4 Dead. The controller is the WORST:stirthepot: And while I know Xbox Live is better than PSN it still has its flaws. I still got lag on Xbox. My Playstation and the keys to my Z are the two things you would have to pry from my cold dead hands.

^^^ As you can see. This really boils down to personal choice.

You forgot :stirthepot:

There can be no differing of opinions on things this important to life!!!

When my friends talk about how much they love the Xbox controller it makes me wanna pull my hair out. My reason for hating it is the left analog. It strains my thumb and gets uncomfortable quick.

I have both. Any game that comes on both systems I get for the xbox. I like their online community better. I only keep the ps3 for Sony exclusive titles

Hmmm... I was seriously tempted to crack a joke about how you must have small girly hands. But I restrained myself :icon17:

I dont though. My friend who is like 5'2 and has small fat little hands loves it.

The left analog stick being uncomfortable is due to having big hands. That thing is just so damn close too the thumb's knuckle.

For me, I'd like a hybrid of the two controllers. I like the Dualshock's button and stick layout, and obviously the d-pad is better for fighting games if i'm too lazy to get my joystick. The 360 controller, though, has much better materials. I never get the sweaty hands problem with the 360 controller because of the texture of the plastic. It won't happen often, but if I'm enjoying a hot beverage and gaming, it just sucks on the dualshock lol.

I agree, i honestly dont know how anyone likes those controllers... they just feel bulky to me for some reason.

Also, i like how ps3 uses bluetooth to connect, much better technology and i like how its rechargeable also, and the motion controlled 6 axis is cool, but i hardly ever use it...

Heheh. Once again, one man's treasure is another's garbage. Bluetooth to connect to me just means that this is the only component in my entertainment system (loosely speaking) that can't be controlled by my Logitech universal remote.

It's a wash on controllers perhaps putting aside shape/weight preference. The PS3 is rechargeable out of the box, but (at least in my system) only the 6axis came with the system. You have to purchase the dual shock separately. On the other hand, you can get the charge and play for the xbox, but it's an extra 20 bucks.

Its just prefernce.

I never understood how people used to like old xbox fatty controllers, but a lot of people loved them.

Different strokes for different folks. Just have to find what you like. :tup:

huh? my controllers all have rumble features on them out of the box... i got one at launch and recently a new one...

**Edit - actually, you may be right, i destroyed the one that came from launch. but new bundles have the dual shocks...

The one I bought around 6 months after launch only had the 6 axis. They must have started including the DS in the package sometime after that

i have both systems and they are both very good but to me, the xbox is just a little bit better. i like some of the options they give you (like installing discs on the hard drive to make load times faster and reduce noise) as well as the menu bar. i like the netflix interface 10x better than on ps3. at the end of the day i like them both but the 360 is just a little bit better, to me, and i can't even put my finger on exactly why, i just know i prefer my 360 overall.

I like the netflix interface on the 360 better too, but I still use the PS3 for netflix. The reason is that it has better bandwidth detection and seems to have stabler buffering. Sometimes when using the xbox nexflix app, it arbitrarily reduces my streaming quality on HD streams -- I'll be watching and they'll be a blip in my bandwidth and the xbox stops and reloads the stream at a lower quality. I never notice such interruptions when watching on the PS3. If it does reduce quality -- which it almost never has to -- it happens seamlessly without stopping and reloading.

both my ps3 and 360 are hard wired to my router so they have direct connections to the interwebz. i've never had a problem with streaming at all. tho, maybe twice now, the netflix app would "freeze" (spinning circle would keep going but never go away) and not load a movie after selecting play on one. exiting to the dashboard and reloading solved this every time it's happened. no biggie to me, stuff happens

Go figure.... My 360 is cabled to my router and my PS3 uses wireless, but I get better streaming performance from the PS3. It just seems like the PS3 handles blips in bandwidth better for HD streaming than the Xbox app, but your mileage may vary.

which 360 do you have? i have a 250gb slim...

how are the Netflix interfaces different between the 2? Not that it really matters since I cancelled Netflix but just curious. I thought it was good on the ps3, cant figure how you would improve it much beyond that...

a 100GB Elite I bought a couple years ago as a replacement for my launch box -- which still works (kinda).

i find that browsing and searching are both much easier and streamlined on the xbox. the ps3's netflix app looks like all the ones i've seen built in on blu ray players. the xbox one looks similar to the dashboard interface. it's a small difference but it's preferable to me

The way your queue and the suggested choices are presented is much better on the Xbox. In addition, the PS3 interface is somewhat laggy as it loads the cover art and the summaries. The xbox doesn't preload summaries so that might be why it seems more responsive.

i would think that the bandwidth switching issue would be a software issue but i'm kinda wondering if it's the older xbox's vs the newer ones.

Well in general, the PS3 does the bandwidth switching dynamically under the covers so to speak. If you have a spotty connection or your bandwidth fluctuates, the picture quality will change while the movie is playing.

On the other hand, the Xbox pauses the movie, announces there has been a bandwidth change, then reloads at the new speed. It doesn't happen much I admit, but it seems less optimal.

yea sounds like it, yay horrible US infrastructure :shakes head:

Any of you guys members of Bluray.com or AVS forums?

i'm on both :tup:

Wow. Thanks for all the input guys. Buying a PS3 next paycheck. Didn't think it would get this much attention/input. I'll be buying one the 320gb Models for 296.00 (well, 300 after the next day shipping). I'll let everyone know my name when I get on it

Make sure and pick up the new Uncharted. Might as well pick up uncharted 2 as well. Have fun!

yea uncharted 1 and 2 are some of the best games i have ever played, single player at least. very fun, awesome story, fantastic production levels. it's like playing the through indiana jones movies

Best Buy has a 320GB PS3 with Uncharted:3 Bundle pack for $299.99. :tup:


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^^ good call.

AWESOME. Perfect. Love this community :tup:

Yes, good call. Awesome deal!!

Im late to the convo, but I must be the only person in exsistance, but I found the old dash board, the one that came on launch 360's to be more user friendly, and "attractive"