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TongMan 08-22-2011 04:53 AM

When people ask how much your income is..
 
..how do you respond?

I was asked this question earlier from a acquaintance at my barbecue in front of some other guests. I do not want my income to be public knowledge between my friends and co-workers. I want to know if any one had been asked how much they make and how they responded. Thanks.

4ever2morrow 08-22-2011 05:25 AM

Best response I would go with... Would simply be "enough" or "not enough" depending on your mood at the moment... It's an incredibly rude question to ask and doesn't even warrant a "nice" response. IMHO

CraigP 08-22-2011 05:29 AM

Just an awkward stare should suffice.

Jordo! 08-22-2011 05:59 AM

Just fvckin tell 'em.

Wages have barely kept up with inflation for, oh, about 95% of the population for the past 30 years, so it's unlikely anyone will be shocked by your income, whether it's "high" or "low".

Anyway, if you can afford a Z you can't be doing that awful, relativley speaking... (hey, just cheered myself up!).

This is an old boomer thing -- back then people actually earned a decent living (i.e., one income supported a family with more money for luxuries), so perhaps it was weird to talk about. Today, two incomes are needed to get by, often with some debt.

Anyway, Gen X and Y have no reason to feel awkward -- just tell it like it is.

Also... if it's co-workers, it would be nice to know if you are getting a decent salary or getting screwed, no?

I bet the whole norm was started by bosses anyway. By making people feel uncomfortable talking about their salaries you can make it harder for people to determine whether or not they are getting paid what they're theoretically worth.

Deadman 08-22-2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1273256)
Just fvckin tell 'em.

Wages have barely kept up with inflation for, oh, about 95% of the population for the past 30 years, so it's unlikely anyone will be shocked by your income, whether it's "high" or "low".

Anyway, if you can afford a Z you can't be doing that awful, relaitvley speaking.

This is an old boomer thing -- back then people actually earned a decent living (i.e., one income supported a family with more money for luxuries). Today, two incomes are needed to get by, often with some debt.

Anyway, Gen X and Y have no reason to feel awkward -- just tell it like it is.

Couldn't agree more, 2 wages are generally needed today for most people :)
I personally don't go around telling everyone what i make, but if someone asks I usually tell them. (Or I tell them "not enough" haha)

RandyD 08-22-2011 06:57 AM

i would not tell them a number...

first of all it is none of their business.
second of all if it is 'high' then they might feel bad,
if it is 'low' then they might feel bad

i have to disagree with people who measure their 'worth' with salary. a salary is what you are making for doing a particular job at a particular time. you are certainly 'worth' more than this at any given time. it is a function of your businesses ability to pay for the services you provide compared to the amount they can charge customers for the resulting goods... not a measure of your worth.

HKYStormFront 08-22-2011 06:59 AM

i usually say "i'm doing alright, i make enough to get by and still have some fun, but that's about it" (which is the truth)

wheee! 08-22-2011 07:43 AM

I use to make twice as much when I was in business for myself. Now I am military and I get paid whatever the government deems fit for soldiers. Almost as much as a city bus driver!

I don't do it for the money. I made a choice to serve my country and that came at a price. So when people ask me how much I make, I usually ask them, "I dunno, what's Freedom worth"?

TMAN1985 08-22-2011 07:55 AM

I usually say "more than you"

Red__Zed 08-22-2011 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1273256)
. Today, two incomes are needed to get by, often with some debt.



.

Where are you getting this? Salaries today are still great. I'm 22 and while my wife works, we could easily get by on just my salary, and pretty comfortably support a family.

Red__Zed 08-22-2011 08:06 AM

Op- response depends on how much you make, especially relative to other people. What do you do?

daisuke149 08-22-2011 08:21 AM

dont tell if you dont want to. simple as that.

anyone can argue you should or shouldnt... reall yits up to you. if you want to tell em go ahead and if you dont, then dont.

just keep in mine that alot of big corporations actually make it a point / policy not to discuss salary's among co-workers.

But yeah, whether or not its appropriate would depend on the person asking to be honest. there isnt a single clearcut statement someone can make where its always appropriate or always not.

Most of the time, i personally just respond "not enough thats for sure"

birdmanx1 08-22-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 1273243)
..how do you respond?

Very easy, the best way to address tactless questions is with humor IMO. The DR. Evil ransom request has worked wonders for me on numerous occasions all the while graciously shooting down those questions... My typical answer after an intended dramatic pause is this one ...

( Click to show/hide )

Most people with a brain would stop there with the question and realize that it's time to move on. I do very well for my age thank goodness for that, but I would never ever willingly divulge my exact earnings to a random group of individuals. The conversations would absolutely become weird after that ;)

Red__Zed 08-22-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1273381)
Very easy, the best way to address tactless questions is with humor IMO. The DR. Evil ransom request has worked wonders for me on numerous occasions all the while graciously shooting down those questions... My typical answer after an intended dramatic pause is this one ...

( Click to show/hide )

Most people with a brain would stop there with the question and realize that it's time to move on. I do very well for my age thank goodness for that, but I would never ever willingly divulge my exact earnings to a random group of individuals. The conversations would absolutely become weird after that ;)




Hey Bert, how much you make???!

Pelican170 08-22-2011 09:32 AM

I would usually say something like "its not important" or "you dont need to worry about that" ...

birdmanx1 08-22-2011 09:32 AM

...intended dramatic pause ...

Dan, I make exactly ...

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...YhNtEE1JdoSkN0

Can I come crash at your place for free for a few years? That'll definitely raise my salary multiple folds :icon17:

Red__Zed 08-22-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1273396)
...intended dramatic pause ...

Dan, I make exactly ...

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...YhNtEE1JdoSkN0

Can I come crash at your place for free for a few years? That'll definitely raise my salary multiple folds :icon17:


Haha, is living for free worth it if it's in bama?

birdmanx1 08-22-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1273402)
Haha, is living for free worth it if it's in bama?

Woah! thanks but not thanks :rofl2:

b1adesofcha0s 08-22-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1273417)
Woah! thanks but not thanks :rofl2:

:icon18:
My answer to how much my income is..........

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OIL bitchez!!!!!
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Red__Zed 08-22-2011 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1273417)
Woah! thanks but not thanks :rofl2:

Almost the same reaction my (California-raised) wife had. Hence the "/Reston, va" in my location:roflpuke2:

Cmike2780 08-22-2011 09:52 AM

I actually started a thread a few months back.

http://www.the370z.com/lounge-off-to...make-year.html

Red__Zed 08-22-2011 09:55 AM

Mind = blown at the salary numbers there.

b1adesofcha0s 08-22-2011 09:59 AM

I love how everyone believed Will's post in there :bowrofl:

birdmanx1 08-22-2011 10:02 AM

:icon17: It had to be quite a change for your wife Dan. This is going to be B1ades a few years at a BBQ:
Unknown# Hey B1ades, nice lambo for a 23 years old who just got out of college. How much do you make?
B1ades - surrounded by numerous groupies# Too much
Unknown# Come on man, how much?
B1ades - snapping his fingers at one of the groupie, she pulls $100 bill from his guccy jeans and wipes his face, then tosses the money# Oil money, young molah on the uprise :p

Red__Zed 08-22-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1273440)
I love how everyone believed Will's post in there :bowrofl:

:icon18:


Isamu: **** like that makes me mad!

shadoquad 08-22-2011 10:13 AM

If a coworker asks you, that's completely inappropriate. It only breeds discontent. People negotiate their salaries 1-on-1. If you find out that Joey McSlackazz is making 5k more a year, you'll get mad, even if it was your fault for not negotiating better when you took the job. :twocents:

TongMan 08-22-2011 10:38 AM

It was an akward moment when I was put on the spot. After thinking about it, I shouldve just answered "just enough to get by" or "dont worry about it" and leave it at that. Since I know that most of my friends who came to my BBQ don't make as much as I do, I threw out a false number that is close to what they make. I'm sure anyone there that was intelligent enough would know that I was lying and that it was rude to ask such questions. I'm not inviting that person over to any of my BBQ events anymore.

b1adesofcha0s 08-22-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1273451)
:icon17: It had to be quite a change for your wife Dan. This is going to be B1ades a few years at a BBQ:
Unknown# Hey B1ades, nice lambo for a 23 years old who just got out of college. How much do you make?
B1ades - surrounded by numerous groupies# Too much
Unknown# Come on man, how much?
B1ades - snapping his fingers at one of the groupie, she pulls $100 bill from his guccy jeans and wipes his face, then tosses the money# Oil money, young molah on the uprise :p

:bowrofl: :roflpuke2: :icon18: :rofl2:

You get repped for that one man :tiphat:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1273461)
:icon18:


Isamu: **** like that makes me mad!

That was sooo funny. I think that might have been when he first went prem though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1273486)
If a coworker asks you, that's completely inappropriate. It only breeds discontent. People negotiate their salaries 1-on-1. If you find out that Joey McSlackazz is making 5k more a year, you'll get mad, even if it was your fault for not negotiating better when you took the job. :twocents:

I'm only working at an internship now so I still get paid hourly. Don't really think that matters too much compared to an actual salary. I wouldn't mind telling close friends and family exactly how much I make, but outside of that no one needs to know. Although I have been tempted to ask my supervisor how much he makes. Mostly just to get an idea of how much I would get if I got a full time job working here after I graduate.

HKYStormFront 08-22-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1273451)
:icon17: It had to be quite a change for your wife Dan. This is going to be B1ades a few years at a BBQ:
Unknown# Hey B1ades, nice lambo for a 23 years old who just got out of college. How much do you make?
B1ades - surrounded by numerous groupies# Too much
Unknown# Come on man, how much?
B1ades - snapping his fingers at one of the groupie, she pulls $100 bill from his guccy jeans and wipes his face, then tosses the money# Oil money, young molah on the uprise :p

lollerskates... :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

WhiskeyHotel 08-22-2011 11:02 AM

I don't even know off the top of my head exactly how much I make. I'd have to look it up. ;)

shadoquad 08-22-2011 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1273654)
I'm only working at an internship now so I still get paid hourly. Don't really think that matters too much compared to an actual salary. I wouldn't mind telling close friends and family exactly how much I make, but outside of that no one needs to know. Although I have been tempted to ask my supervisor how much he makes. Mostly just to get an idea of how much I would get if I got a full time job working here after I graduate.

It is different when talking to a supervisor, or when you're interning, but if you're on a team of professionals, there's no reason to ask that question. Just comb job openings to see what the industry standard is and measure yourself that way.

6MT 08-22-2011 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 1273243)
..how do you respond?

I was asked this question earlier from a acquaintance at my barbecue in front of some other guests. I do not want my income to be public knowledge between my friends and co-workers. I want to know if any one had been asked how much they make and how they responded. Thanks.

One option is the "F" word.

pedZ 08-22-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1273686)
One option is the "F" word.

I agree.

partsguy 08-22-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1273686)
One option is the "F" word.

:bowrofl::icon18:

birdmanx1 08-22-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1273654)
:bowrofl: :roflpuke2: :icon18: :rofl2:

You get repped for that one man :tiphat:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 1273665)
lollerskates... :bowrofl::roflpuke2:

:hello: :tup:

Hey, THAT'S IT!!!! I believe I have a solution to your issue. Give your salary to the guy asking the question in the shape of a mathematical equation, great chances he won't figure it out and he would leave you alone perplexed and ashamed. Some like this, my salary is (-varB + Square root [varB^2 - 4varA*varC])/2*varA - varA, varB & varC are integers that you previously defined. Do that and watch the magic happen, you'll never ever again be bothered ;)

Red__Zed 08-22-2011 12:01 PM

Unless you work with other engineers.

birdmanx1 08-22-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1273785)
Unless you work with other engineers.

In which case see reply 1 if dealing with other engineers who know mathematics :icon17:

RandyD 08-22-2011 12:09 PM

ha ha - i make VarA^2 more than you...

Red__Zed 08-22-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyD (Post 1273795)
ha ha - i make VarA^2 more than you...

Where varA = i

birdmanx1 08-22-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyD (Post 1273795)
ha ha - i make VarA^2 more than you...

:rofl2: Congratulations dear Randy, you've won $1,000,000,000 (VarA^2*2) from the Microsoft Lottery. Please provide your bank account, routing number, salary so that fund transfer get initiated right away.

Congratulations on winning a lottery you didn't play.

Best regards,

Bank of Nigeria


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