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XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 226987)
oh shut up haha

what can i say, before college i was a computer scientist.

Scientist BEFORE College... damm... what you doin on here, go cook up some new super mighty laZOR :stirthepot:

TX_370 10-08-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 226987)
oh shut up haha

what can i say, before college i was a computer scientist.

Uh huh... computer scientist :roflpuke2:

Pretty sure that laZor just hit a mirror and fired back at you.

phelan 10-08-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TX_370 (Post 226990)
Uh huh... computer scientist :roflpuke2:

Pretty sure that laZor just hit a mirror and fired back at you.

if it did that i'm pretty sure i'd end up looking like 2theextreme, aka ID4 scientist :roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

phelan 10-08-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 226989)
Scientist BEFORE College... damm... what you doin on here, go cook up some new super mighty laZOR :stirthepot:

funny part is that was my senior project in college. didn't go very well, wasn't portable enough :eek:

TX_370 10-08-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 226992)
if it did that i'm pretty sure i'd end up looking like 2theextreme, aka ID4 scientist :roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

Maybe the laZor just had a malfuncition: Error: ID-10-T

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 226994)
funny part is that was my senior project in college. didn't go very well, wasn't portable enough :eek:

Yeah I saw pics from it... here's my fav...

http://insulatorz.home.att.net/argon2.jpg

phelan 10-08-2009 02:28 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...orne_laser.jpg

lol not your average 747

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227000)
lol not your average 747

It is however your standard waste of government funds... For some reason that project has been cancelled and restarted 3 times... They only just NOW have an actual airframe actually modded, they just have to make sure that the laZOR can maintain full power in air... Then come the 'simulated' tests...

phelan 10-08-2009 02:31 PM

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The ABL does not burn through or disintegrate its target. It heats the missile skin, weakening it, causing failure from high speed flight stress. If proven successful, seven ABL-armed 747s will be built and assigned to two combat theaters.
That's no fun :(

phelan 10-08-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 227002)
It is however your standard waste of government funds... For some reason that project has been cancelled and restarted 3 times... They only just NOW have an actual airframe actually modded, they just have to make sure that the laZOR can maintain full power in air... Then come the 'simulated' tests...

this thing takes up jigawatts of energy! that plane is like...a lens, an emitter, and shittons of batteries XD

TX_370 10-08-2009 02:32 PM

PEW PEW PEW ! thats a rocking 747!

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227003)
That's no fun :(

What they aren't saying is where its going to be aiming...

They are trying to tag the primary fuel tank... Cause it to rupture, and detonate in mid air. They have determined even if the tanks exploded, it wouldn't be enough to trigger the nuclear warheads. They would however get launched far off of their planned trajectory.. Landing who knows where, which is the big problem with this idea.

phelan 10-08-2009 02:33 PM

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On June 18, 2009 it was announced that the ATL was successfully fired in flight for the first time. The system was fired from a 46th Test Wing NC-130H aircraft while flying over White Sands Missile Range, successfully hitting a target board on the ground.[5]

Aug. 30, 2009 Boeing and the U.S. Air Force "defeated" a ground target from the air with the Advanced Tactical Laser (ATL) aircraft
Rofl, soon there'll be no need for ammunition, but the pilots will have to go PEW PEW PEW PEW when they're shooting XD

phelan 10-08-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 227006)
What they aren't saying is where its going to be aiming...

They are trying to tag the primary fuel tank... Cause it to rupture, and detonate in mid air. They have determined even if the tanks exploded, it wouldn't be enough to trigger the nuclear warheads. They would however get launched far off of their planned trajectory.. Landing who knows where, which is the big problem with this idea.

So you'd have a big chunk of radioactive material landing God knows where? Oh, that's absolutely BRILLIANT! I don't want to die in a huge fireball, I'd rather rot and die from cancer!

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227004)
this thing takes up jigawatts of energy! that plane is like...a lens, an emitter, and shittons of batteries XD

"The primary laser beam is generated by a megawatt Chemical Oxygen Iodine Laser (COIL) located at the rear of the fuselage, which lases at 1.315 micron wavelength."

TX_370 10-08-2009 02:35 PM

I'm to lazy to look it up and you guys probably know more about this than I do... on the military channel, I saw a special where in every single test done with an ATL it was a 100% successful kill.

The question to me is, why isnt this technology on our aircrafts now?

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227007)
Rofl, soon there'll be no need for ammunition, but the pilots will have to go PEW PEW PEW PEW when they're shooting XD

The problem is they were shooting at a stationary target... On the ground.

Lets try shooting what its 'designed' to kill... A High speed, climbing ICBM in the atmosphere...

phelan 10-08-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TX_370 (Post 227011)
I'm to lazy to look it up and you guys probably know more about this than I do... on the military channel, I saw a special where in every single test done with an ATL it was a 100% successful kill.

The question to me is, why isnt this technology on our aircrafts now?

Define every single test? I saw a report in September saying they had a "kill", but I thought that was the first one. All the other ones were R&D tests to prove "hey we can actually aim this thing!"

phelan 10-08-2009 02:37 PM

chris the PEW PEW PEW was in reference to the ATL. that's supposed to be against hostile ground forces, no?

and yes, i know it was a megawatt laser, i was just having fun with words XD

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227008)
So you'd have a big chunk of radioactive material landing God knows where? Oh, that's absolutely BRILLIANT! I don't want to die in a huge fireball, I'd rather rot and die from cancer!

This is why I'm not to fond of this idea... Either blow up the missile completely, or shoot them down once they hit the Apogee of their trajectory in space...

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Originally Posted by TX_370 (Post 227011)
I'm to lazy to look it up and you guys probably know more about this than I do... on the military channel, I saw a special where in every single test done with an ATL it was a 100% successful kill.

The question to me is, why isnt this technology on our aircrafts now?

1. Don't believe what you see on the tube... Remember, most of the tests they did were against non moving targets on the ground... Not even close to what it's intended to kill...

Let's not forget the PATRIOT SAM system also has a '100%' kill ratio lol That couldn't be further from the truth...
2. The reason why is because we spent $1.1Bil just to develop the IDEA of this aircraft, and make sure it could even fly... Nothing was mentioned of if it would actually work or not.

"In 1996, the Department of Defense awarded Team ABL a $1.1bn Programme Definition and Risk Reduction (PDRR) contract for the development and test of an airborne laser weapon system."

TX_370 10-08-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227014)
Define every single test? I saw a report in September saying they had a "kill", but I thought that was the first one. All the other ones were R&D tests to prove "hey we can actually aim this thing!"

Maybe thats what they were talking about, like i said it was brief special and i dont know much on the subject.

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227014)
Define every single test? I saw a report in September saying they had a "kill", but I thought that was the first one. All the other ones were R&D tests to prove "hey we can actually aim this thing!"

Which against a target sitting on the ground, that isnt moving, isn't very hard... A guy sitting in the backseat of a Bi-Plane with a hand grenade did the same thing in WW I

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227016)
chris the PEW PEW PEW was in reference to the ATL. that's supposed to be against hostile ground forces, no?

I know Phelan, no the ABL is designed to shoot down enemy ICBM's immediately after launch while the missile is still in Boost Phase where its vulnerable...

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227016)
and yes, i know it was a megawatt laser, i was just having fun with words XD

I know buddy =)

phelan 10-08-2009 02:43 PM

High power laser weapon from airborne laser platform defeats ground target in flight test - Military & Aerospace Electronics

^ 100% kill rate, yup. 1/1 stationary vehicles. programming a target acquisition system to that amount of detail is going to be a MONSTROUS task. atmospheric interference along with the sheer difference in velocities and trajectories, topography, etc...that's a lot of variables to account for. it's a great science fiction idea that has been implemented in reality, but it really isn't worth it.

phelan 10-08-2009 02:44 PM

wonder what the effect on the atmosphere would be if you tried to detonate a nuclear warhead while it's still waaaay up there, near its zenith?

hey, am i using the word zenith correctly O_o;

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227021)
^ 100% kill rate, yup. 1/1 stationary vehicles. programming a target acquisition system to that amount of detail is going to be a MONSTROUS task. atmospheric interference along with the sheer difference in velocities and trajectories, topography, etc...that's a lot of variables to account for. it's a great science fiction idea that has been implemented in reality, but it really isn't worth it.

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The US Air Force Airborne Laser, (ABL), designated YAL-1A, is a high-energy laser weapon system for the destruction of tactical theatre ballistic missiles, which is carried on a modified Boeing 747-400F freighter aircraft.
Thats what it's designed for... And thats not how they are testing it...

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227023)
wonder what the effect on the atmosphere would be if you tried to detonate a nuclear warhead while it's still waaaay up there, near its zenith?

You'll have a high altitude detonation, less fallout to worryabout and so forth, but you run the risk of EMP.

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227023)
hey, am i using the word zenith correctly O_o;

Yes you did. Good job!

TX_370 10-08-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227021)
High power laser weapon from airborne laser platform defeats ground target in flight test - Military & Aerospace Electronics

^ 100% kill rate, yup. 1/1 stationary vehicles. programming a target acquisition system to that amount of detail is going to be a MONSTROUS task. atmospheric interference along with the sheer difference in velocities and trajectories, topography, etc...that's a lot of variables to account for. it's a great science fiction idea that has been implemented in reality, but it really isn't worth it.

Thanks for finding that Phelan.

phelan 10-08-2009 02:47 PM

yay ^___^

and i understand the possibility (high one at that) of triggering a huge EMP burst, but i'm just thinking environmentally that's not gonna be fun. i don't know if the fallout would be necessarily less; it'll all start coming down as precipitation instead!

NOTE though, aren't the ATL and ABL different programs? the YAL-1A is a separate installation than the one I read for the ATL, which was installed on a C-130

Trips 10-08-2009 02:49 PM

heys guys

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227030)
yay ^___^

and i understand the possibility (high one at that) of triggering a huge EMP burst, but i'm just thinking environmentally that's not gonna be fun. i don't know if the fallout would be necessarily less; it'll all start coming down as precipitation instead!

NOTE though, aren't the ATL and ABL different programs? the YAL-1A is a separate installation than the one I read for the ATL, which was installed on a C-130

Hmm... just noticed that... that would be like the military... Build 2 different A/C to do the same thing...

Thats like the E-3 Sentry, and the E-8 JSTARS lol

phelan 10-08-2009 02:51 PM

shh triples, we're having technobabble in here!

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 227034)
heys guys

Hey Trip :hello:

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227040)
shh triples, we're having technobabble in here!

Phelan! He's a blue, cease fire!

Trips 10-08-2009 02:52 PM

ok, I'll just make some popcorn!

phelan 10-08-2009 02:53 PM

:eek: :icon14:

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 227041)
Phelan! He's a blue, cease fire!

I mean he Does like the Yankees and all, but that can be forgiven...

phelan 10-08-2009 02:53 PM

anyhow, my oral surgeon has called and told me to start driving to the office for my lil' checkup. back later tonight, maybe.

see ya!

TX_370 10-08-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 227043)
ok, I'll just make some popcorn!

Here ya go! :drama:

XwChriswX 10-08-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227047)
anyhow, my oral surgeon has called and told me to start driving to the office for my lil' checkup. back later tonight, maybe.

see ya!

Good Luck buddie, don't forget to power down the laZOR for the night...

TX_370 10-08-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 227040)
shh triples, we're having technobabble in here!

Technobabble, :rofl2: !

AndyO 10-08-2009 03:11 PM

ok Im back. Had to get some work done. =) I read through so Im caught up lol. Yeah I know Im making up for missed time


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