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Cyberium 03-19-2011 02:37 AM

Radiation Concerns
 
Just checking on any 370z members that live on the west coast and see if they have any first-hand experience with increased radiation or what their local news is telling them.

I know experts are saying that today the west coast, mainly so-cal, is supposed to get a little radiation from last Friday’s release. Unfortunately, those leaks were minimal in comparison to the radiation emitted after explosions on Saturday, Monday and Tuesday.

Apparently, around late Monday or so, that is when the really bad stuff, like plutonium that was blown into air from the Sat, Mon, Tues explosions are supposed to arrive.

I know I live on the east coast, but man, I'm still scared. This is nuts.

It's really obvious that mainstream media is downplaying the severity of the situation so everyone doesn't go ape-**** and start rioting but I'd encourage everyone to take precautions.

Not trying to sound paranoid, but just because the nightly news tells you everything is ok, does not make it so.

phelan 03-19-2011 04:24 AM

Yes, it's concerning that radiation is released. However, based on the levels I'm seeing reported in other news sources (BBC especially), the radiation levels are well below harmful. Even in Japan itself, radiation levels are elevated but not to dangerous levels. I'm concerned, but not much.

370zFORme!! 03-19-2011 04:35 AM

Well an extra arm hasnt started growing out of my *** yet, so all good so far :ugh2:. In all seriousness though, there hasn't been much hoopla about it in the news so far. Will update if things change in the next couple days.

ChrisSlicks 03-19-2011 08:34 AM

6000 miles of ocean is a good buffer zone, you shouldn't be too concerned. You might receive up to 2 or 3 times the normal background radiation level if you are outside but that's no big deal, you don't have to start getting worried unless you were continuously exposed to 100x the background level (short exposure to those levels is fine).

370zproject 03-20-2011 01:53 PM

>.> crazy crap

370zproject 03-20-2011 02:28 PM

nagoya how bad is that area

wilsonp 03-20-2011 03:51 PM

I wouldn't worry, I'm pretty sure you'll die of lightning or meteor strike or car accident before radiation.

oleg 03-20-2011 03:57 PM

Do you guys think the radiation on cars that will be imported will be significant? I'm asking because my grandpa and his coworkers died of cancer that they got from driving a car that was near the Chernobyl factory when the meltdown happened. Makes me a little hesitant taking delivery on my car thats supposed to be here at the end of April.

kenchan 03-20-2011 05:19 PM

Phelan- you guys have more smog in socal that is hells more significant and dangerous than some minimal exposure of radiation. Not to forget the nuke lab outside san gabriel with tons of nuclear waste slowly seeping into the ground, no? :D

CBRich 03-20-2011 06:59 PM

Let me help explain some things. Radiation can not get on you. It's energy, much like heat. Contamination or radioactive material can get on you and it emits radiation. The most common method used at a nuclear plant to remove said contamination? Soap and water. IF some amount of radioactive material were carried through the wind stream to the West coast it would emit so little radiation it wouldn't even matter. And if you were some crazy paranoid who thought the material on your car was going to kill you? Wash it. Problem solved.

As for cars and things made in the area? A simple wash of the parts would clean them right up. They dont get hit by radiation or contamination and suddenly become a piece of radioactive material forever doomed to cancerize you.

Please gain some knowledge on the subject from an outside source. The media is clueless and more lost than just about anyone.

CBRich 03-20-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberium (Post 996170)
It's really obvious that mainstream media is downplaying the severity of the situation so everyone doesn't go ape-**** and start rioting but I'd encourage everyone to take precautions.

Not trying to sound paranoid, but just because the nightly news tells you everything is ok, does not make it so.

Quite the opposite. The nightly news is clueless. Their constant spewing of misinformation is only causing people more worry than necessary. Are you aware that you receive 3.6 millisieverts every year from the sun, rocks, and soil around you? My God! How frightening. Seriously, instead of taking precautions go read a book on nuclear physics.

spinhead 03-20-2011 07:47 PM

http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/radiation.png

daisuke149 03-20-2011 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberium (Post 996170)
Just checking on any 370z members that live on the west coast and see if they have any first-hand experience with increased radiation or what their local news is telling them.

I know experts are saying that today the west coast, mainly so-cal, is supposed to get a little radiation from last Friday’s release. Unfortunately, those leaks were minimal in comparison to the radiation emitted after explosions on Saturday, Monday and Tuesday.

Apparently, around late Monday or so, that is when the really bad stuff, like plutonium that was blown into air from the Sat, Mon, Tues explosions are supposed to arrive.

I know I live on the east coast, but man, I'm still scared. This is nuts.

It's really obvious that mainstream media is downplaying the severity of the situation so everyone doesn't go ape-**** and start rioting but I'd encourage everyone to take precautions.

Not trying to sound paranoid, but just because the nightly news tells you everything is ok, does not make it so.

People in Tokyo a couple hundred miles shouldnt be concerned about this yet, so someone 6000 miles away should definitely not worry.

And like someone said, the media is actually blowing it out of proportion just to make news. Remember, drama/bad **** = ratings. If you think they are just trying to help then, sorry to say, theres not much anyone can do to help you.

kenchan 03-20-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 998349)
Please gain some knowledge on the subject from an outside source.

you mean like from car forums? :tup: ;)

370zproject 03-20-2011 11:48 PM

lol

CBRich 03-21-2011 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 998548)
you mean like from car forums? :tup: ;)

:p Exactly!

But seriously my job function is to inform workers of what kind of radiation and contamination levels to anticipate and how to dress and work appropriately. I also send out techs with the workers to ensure they don't put themselves or anyone else at risk. As a matter of fact I'm sitting about 100 yards from one running nuclear reactor and one reactor being refueld right now.

Just giving you some background info so you don't think I'm some random idiot who knows how to use Google. Trust me, you won't have a problem here in the states.

Isamu 03-21-2011 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 999005)
:p Exactly!

But seriously my job function is to inform workers of what kind of radiation and contamination levels to anticipate and how to dress and work appropriately. I also send out techs with the workers to ensure they don't put themselves or anyone else at risk. As a matter of fact I'm sitting about 100 yards from one running nuclear reactor and one reactor being refueld right now.

Just giving you some background info so you don't think I'm some random idiot who knows how to use Google. Trust me, you won't have a problem here in the states.

repped...

kenchan 03-21-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 999005)
:p Exactly!

But seriously my job function is to inform workers of what kind of radiation and contamination levels to anticipate and how to dress and work appropriately. I also send out techs with the workers to ensure they don't put themselves or anyone else at risk. As a matter of fact I'm sitting about 100 yards from one running nuclear reactor and one reactor being refueld right now.

Just giving you some background info so you don't think I'm some random idiot who knows how to use Google. Trust me, you won't have a problem here in the states.

:tup: thanks! btw, are you bald? just kidding! :D

Isamu 03-21-2011 11:10 AM

I have more chances of being irradiated then anyone on this board.. except MAYBE CBRich lol

phelan 03-21-2011 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 998355)
Quite the opposite. The nightly news is clueless. Their constant spewing of misinformation is only causing people more worry than necessary. Are you aware that you receive 3.6 millisieverts every year from the sun, rocks, and soil around you? My God! How frightening. Seriously, instead of taking precautions go read a book on nuclear physics.

It's just sad how many people (like my dad) are freaking out and going to buy KI pills. Seriously, what the f*ck? Stupid sensationalist propaganda bullsh*t.

XwChriswX 03-21-2011 12:51 PM

I work less than 50m away from a nice big radar spitting out radiation for 9 hours a day. I've been doing it the past 8 years. And when I was deployed, 24/7. So yeah, I'm not too worried about Japans ractors harming me any more than what I've already absorbed. :tup:

370zproject 03-21-2011 01:44 PM

hmmm

Isamu 03-21-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 999750)
I work less than 50m away from a nice big radar spitting out radiation for 9 hours a day. I've been doing it the past 8 years. And when I was deployed, 24/7. So yeah, I'm not too worried about Japans ractors harming me any more than what I've already absorbed. :tup:

I have worked, and will work again near radar nose cones of varies aircraft on and off, and will probably only reproduce girls...

plus the nukes here don't help either Lulz

CBRich 03-21-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 999595)
It's just sad how many people (like my dad) are freaking out and going to buy KI pills. Seriously, what the f*ck? Stupid sensationalist propaganda bullsh*t.

KI pills do limit the uptake of radioactive iodine in the thyroid glands. BUT the adverse effects of KI pills mean they should only be taken if there is a serious risk of high dose. And it's even worse for older people.

kenchan 03-21-2011 04:07 PM

while some people in the US are getting worked up (and chinese folks panicing and piling up on each other to get salt for some f-ed up reason), my mom and pops in tokyo aren't really concerned. lol :D

they are aware about the radiation in some foods and water, etc and taking precautions, but handling it more like recalled foods contaminated with e.coli or something in the US.

CBRich 03-21-2011 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1000261)
while some people in the US are getting worked up (and chinese folks panicing and piling up on each other to get salt for some f-ed up reason), my mom and pops in tokyo aren't really concerned. lol :D

they are aware about the radiation in some foods and water, etc and taking precautions, but handling it more like recalled foods contaminated with e.coli or something in the US.

And this is where i gain huge admiration for Japan and the culture there. They are thankful for any help and seem to receive it in such an orderly fashion. Does anyone remember how the people in the states here responded after Katrina? Sickening.

Horus 03-22-2011 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 999005)
:p Exactly!

But seriously my job function is to inform workers of what kind of radiation and contamination levels to anticipate and how to dress and work appropriately. I also send out techs with the workers to ensure they don't put themselves or anyone else at risk. As a matter of fact I'm sitting about 100 yards from one running nuclear reactor and one reactor being refueld right now.

Just giving you some background info so you don't think I'm some random idiot who knows how to use Google. Trust me, you won't have a problem here in the states.

You must be at McGuire.
As someone who works in the Nuclear industry and is exasperated by the ignorance and misinformation that the media and general public is presenting, thank you for giving some perspective.

Reading the comments section for the Nuclear articles at CNN makes me seriously concerned about the public perception of nuclear safety and the status of power companies efforts to build new reactors.

370zproject 03-23-2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 1000663)
And this is where i gain huge admiration for Japan and the culture there. They are thankful for any help and seem to receive it in such an orderly fashion. Does anyone remember how the people in the states here responded after Katrina? Sickening.

:iagree:

Isamu 03-23-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horus (Post 1003321)
You must be at McGuire.
As someone who works in the Nuclear industry and is exasperated by the ignorance and misinformation that the media and general public is presenting, thank you for giving some perspective.

Reading the comments section for the Nuclear articles at CNN makes me seriously concerned about the public perception of nuclear safety and the status of power companies efforts to build new reactors.

the safety precautions are amazingly indepth...
I don't know about nuke power plants. but the **** we have to do for warheads is very very extensive

370zproject 03-23-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1004889)
the safety precautions are amazingly indepth...
I don't know about nuke power plants. but the **** we have to do for warheads is very very extensive

if you play with those why dont u have a gtr?

Isamu 03-23-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 1004985)
if you play with those why dont u have a gtr?

Military = meh pay bro

CBRich 03-23-2011 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horus (Post 1003321)
You must be at McGuire.
As someone who works in the Nuclear industry and is exasperated by the ignorance and misinformation that the media and general public is presenting, thank you for giving some perspective.

Reading the comments section for the Nuclear articles at CNN makes me seriously concerned about the public perception of nuclear safety and the status of power companies efforts to build new reactors.

I sure am. Curious what kind of work you do. I'm a lead RP.

Horus 03-23-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 1006416)
I sure am. Curious what kind of work you do. I'm a lead RP.

Im a Programs Engineer at Oconee.

CBRich 03-24-2011 09:08 AM

I guess that's your black Nismo I've seen. I usually drive my old Accord but you may see a red base model with sport brakes there on occasion.

Horus 03-24-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 1007615)
I guess that's your black Nismo I've seen. I usually drive my old Accord but you may see a red base model with sport brakes there on occasion.

Yeah, that's mine. I've been using it as a DD for about 8 months, but hopefully i'll be getting a used SUV soon for increased practicality. Then the Z will be a fair weather driver/garage queen.

I pass through RP fairly regularly during outage times. We may have met.

Liquid_G 03-24-2011 11:46 AM

From the Nissan Cube forum...

Will new cubes being exported from Japan to the US be radioactive? - Nissan Cube Car Forums

basically someone is worried about their Cube having radiation on it when it gets here from Japan. roflcopter

CBRich 03-24-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Radiation is spreading from the nuclear power plant to as far as tokyo so far. It has already contaminated the water and the food.
This statement particularly concerns me. Radiation can not spread out and contaminate things. Even wikipedia will give you enough info to understand this a little better.

Horus 03-24-2011 12:35 PM

I think the media and public use radiation and radioactive (radiation emitting) particles interchangeably.

Or maybe they actually think that once something is exposed to radiation it become radioactive.

Im more concerned by this quote:

"Sitting in a car that has even the smallest amounts of uranium molded into the plastic, or the seats, or the dashboard everyday for years can lead to cancer. Radiation is deadly. Even in the smallest amounts. You obviously don't know much about radiation exposure. You don't get an x-ray everyday. And radiation from uranium and other radioactive elements is completely different than that from x-ray radiation or microwaves."

ChrisSlicks 03-24-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horus (Post 1008560)
Or maybe they actually think that once something is exposed to radiation it become radioactive.

It's like when you magnetize a screwdriver, metal exposed to radiation becomes radioactive :p

Isamu 03-24-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1008580)
It's like when you magnetize a screwdriver, metal exposed to radiation becomes radioactive :p

:shakes head: :roflpuke2:


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