Feds Bust Importer Of GT-R Used In The Fast And The Furious

theDreamer · 11-03-2010, 01:08 PM

And really, it was not safety of a crash I think the government is worried about.
The hippies fight hard when its come to the environment, the R33/34 never did any EPA testing so the engine is not safe thus the car is not allowed.

shadoquad · 11-03-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

And really, it was not safety of a crash I think the government is worried about.
The hippies fight hard when its come to the environment, the R33/34 never did any EPA testing so the engine is not safe thus the car is not allowed.

But even then, it boils down to money. The EPA wants its vig.

PapoZalsa · 11-03-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951

Theres another one for sale on ebay . Nissan: eBay Motors (item 150514272881 end time Nov-06-10 19:00:00 PDT)

$55K

370zproject · 11-04-2010, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

It's a mix of things. (1) it's a nanny state. The gov't knows better than you about what cars you can drive. (2) More importantly, the safer the vehicles, the less severe the injuries in crash situations, and the less severe the injuries are, the cheaper it is for hospitals and ambos to treat you, as well as the easier it is for cops to quickly clean up after you.

Bottom line: it's always about money.

**** the world

Windex_ · 11-04-2010, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

R33 and is a Motorex car, even those are not 100% legal even if the guy believes it.

Im pretty sure the motorex R33's are legal. My brother used to work for them for 3 years. The R33 was the only that they actually were able to pull off legally AFAIK.

But then again that could have been the 32?

I got to play in all kinda scary *** cars lol. I still miss his R33

Jamaica · 11-04-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

$55K

U know u want one ! lol

Mazaki · 11-04-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Bottom line: it's about money and control.

Fixed that for ya.

Screw the Progressives and screw the hippies. If I want to own a Skyrine GT-R, I should be able to.

wishihadnav · 11-04-2010, 12:36 PM

ahh i miss Motorex..they had soo many nice cars in there..

Windex_ · 11-04-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

ahh i miss Motorex..they had soo many nice cars in there..

When I was 14 the owner tried to sell me a 750hp 1 piece body RX7... I was like HELL YEAH!

Then my brother say no and I got

shadoquad · 11-04-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazaki

Fixed that for ya.

Screw the Progressives and screw the hippies. If I want to own a Skyrine GT-R, I should be able to.

true

Jamaica · 11-04-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Windex_

When I was 14 the owner tried to sell me a 750hp 1 piece body RX7... I was like HELL YEAH!

Then my brother say no and I got

smart brother. you prob killed yourself if you got it.

Joseph B · 11-04-2010, 02:13 PM

The cars Motorex imported and are still driving around in the US must have a DOT bond release letter along with the title. If you are looking to purchase a GTR in the US (R32,R33, R34) the seller must have this so you can legally title the car.

Motorex did legtimately crash test two R33. Then they told the feds the others R32 and R34 were structually similar and they would have similar crash results. At the time the Feds bought it. Importation began.

All 1996 and newer cars require obd2 compliance.Motorex was supposed to be adding US DOT safety equipment and bringing them up to obd2 standard before sale. Well, in the end motorex didn't do that. Plus the Feds consulted Nissan for crash test results for the R32, R34 and they were in fact different from what Motorex claimed. And none of the 96 and newer GTR's were made obd2 compliant. Which is neary impossible unless you are a manufacturer.

At that point GTR importation ceased, motorex was fully investigation and some crazy stuff went down. The GTR in the US is actually quite an interesting story filled with drama (kidnapping etc). The story should be made into a documentary. Most of the owners were allowed to keep their cars after the DOT released the bonds they were held on.

In the end you can still bring in an R33, but you have to add DOT safey items and make it obd2. Which obviouslly no one in our industry can do successfully. So pretty much you can't bring it in.

This article is referring to Kaizo industries cars. Basically establishing a company in Japan who buys GTR's. Tears them down, recondition the chassis as Kaizo chassis. Put new vins. reassemble chassis with all parts except engine and drive train. Now it's not a Nissan GTR. It is a Kaizo kit car. Ship to us. Customer puts their own motor/drivetrain. Now rules requiring obd2 compliance/DOT standards do not apply since it is not sold as a complete car by a manufacturer.

In Canada you can import a car that does not emission regs as long as it is 15 years or older. That's why you see an influx of R32's for sale there. Now it applies to R33's, soon what about 2014 R34.

The United States has a similar law with one exception; 25 years instead of 15.

wishihadnav · 11-04-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Windex_

When I was 14 the owner tried to sell me a 750hp 1 piece body RX7... I was like HELL YEAH!

Then my brother say no and I got

hahah..yeah they had some sick cars in there..prices werent too bad either..i think they had a R32 for about 25k which i still couldnt afford at the time

nuTinmuch · 11-04-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazaki

Fixed that for ya.

Screw the Progressives and screw the hippies. If I want to own a Skyrine GT-R, I should be able to.

Jquad · 11-05-2010, 12:56 AM

Man those are sexy

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Joseph B Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Woodinville WA Posts: 160 Drives: '10 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 15	The cars Motorex imported and are still driving around in the US must have a DOT bond release letter along with the title. If you are looking to purchase a GTR in the US (R32,R33, R34) the seller must have this so you can legally title the car. Motorex did legtimately crash test two R33. Then they told the feds the others R32 and R34 were structually similar and they would have similar crash results. At the time the Feds bought it. Importation began. All 1996 and newer cars require obd2 compliance.Motorex was supposed to be adding US DOT safety equipment and bringing them up to obd2 standard before sale. Well, in the end motorex didn't do that. Plus the Feds consulted Nissan for crash test results for the R32, R34 and they were in fact different from what Motorex claimed. And none of the 96 and newer GTR's were made obd2 compliant. Which is neary impossible unless you are a manufacturer. At that point GTR importation ceased, motorex was fully investigation and some crazy stuff went down. The GTR in the US is actually quite an interesting story filled with drama (kidnapping etc). The story should be made into a documentary. Most of the owners were allowed to keep their cars after the DOT released the bonds they were held on. In the end you can still bring in an R33, but you have to add DOT safey items and make it obd2. Which obviouslly no one in our industry can do successfully. So pretty much you can't bring it in. This article is referring to Kaizo industries cars. Basically establishing a company in Japan who buys GTR's. Tears them down, recondition the chassis as Kaizo chassis. Put new vins. reassemble chassis with all parts except engine and drive train. Now it's not a Nissan GTR. It is a Kaizo kit car. Ship to us. Customer puts their own motor/drivetrain. Now rules requiring obd2 compliance/DOT standards do not apply since it is not sold as a complete car by a manufacturer. In Canada you can import a car that does not emission regs as long as it is 15 years or older. That's why you see an influx of R32's for sale there. Now it applies to R33's, soon what about 2014 R34. The United States has a similar law with one exception; 25 years instead of 15. Last edited by Joseph B; 11-04-2010 at 02:24 PM.

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