How A Pilot Refused A Full Body Scan And Now May Lose His Job

CBRich · 11-21-2010, 08:18 PM

Smoke and mirrors.

Hybrid 350GT · 11-22-2010, 01:29 AM

Actually... there is a good reason to screen even old white people...

Anyone see the report about that young (22ish year old) Asian guy who dressed in and Old white guy mask and used an ID showing a 55year old DOB. He was only caught after removing the mask in the Airplane Lav. YES HE MADE IT ONTO THE AIRCRAFT.

On the other hand, all of this extra security has basically caused a cluster of people at the Security line. Well, the true task of a terrorist isn't to get onto an airplane, it's to kill people. So now U have a large cluster of people, sometimes larger than most aircraft can handle, just sitting there. What is to stop a suicide bomber to just get into the middle of this line and explode? How easy could it be for a few of these guys to organize a simultaneous hit at LAX, NY, Boston, etc. They would kill hundreds, and it would put a huge halt on air travel, temporarily. Just as a Security measure is put into place, it just opens a new opportunity. Besides...all this high security, they still leave gigantic holes left for a terrorist to take advantage of.

Take San Diego Airport for example.... I am there very often and I never see any security roaming the perimeter. All it takes is for a terrorist group to get someone to work on the inside, say.. a catering company. They roam the grounds of the airport all day. Someone could literally throw something over the fence and this guy comes and gets it. He can get right on to an airplane with that material.

These points are actual concerns by real pilots.

daisuke149 · 11-22-2010, 07:31 PM

I agree with Mike

the issue isnt so much the organization itself but its how their doing what they are doing.. and honestly.. the quality of people they hire. Almost reminds me of being at the DMV...

but funny thing is with my last name and my look ive never once had to go through any special security or checks.

i just screwed myself for my next flight.

And also I think someone said it earlier, if we have to rely on the TSA to catch the terrorists.. we've already lost .. its too late.

Mike · 11-24-2010, 07:53 AM

so are you guys who are for this going to complain when one of these terrorists sticks explosives up his rectum and we all start getting body cavity searches? When does it end? What is your limit?

Mike · 11-24-2010, 07:55 AM

not related, but yesterday one of these TSAholes kidnapped a woman from the airport parking lot here in Atlanta, brought her to his house and raped her, then released her and attempted suicide. That is the quality of worker they hire.

dad · 11-24-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

not related, but yesterday one of these TSAholes kidnapped a woman from the airport parking lot here in Atlanta, brought her to his house and raped her, then released her and attempted suicide. That is the quality of worker they hire.

Your trying to bury the quality of worker they hire because of a rape!
Soldiers rape, policemen rape, doctors rape, dentists rape, teachers rape!
Your statement about the quality of worker for the TSA is useless!

jetguy · 11-24-2010, 08:20 AM

What? I thought the tsa are all ex-black ops agents or highly trained anti terror experts of some kind.

Mike · 11-24-2010, 08:36 AM

I feel much safer after this!

YouTube - TSA Molests 3 Year Old Child at Chattanooga Metro Airport

PapoZalsa · 11-27-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jetguy

What? I thought the tsa are all ex-black ops agents or highly trained anti terror experts of some kind.

They get like 8 hrs of training...just to check the people and carry-on. They don't have the training to profile any potential terrorist.

theDreamer · 12-19-2010, 04:15 PM

Man passes through TSA security with loaded gun in carry-on bag, boards plane | abc13.com

Quote:

A person briefed on the latest tests tells ABC News the failure rate approaches 70 percent at some major airports. Two weeks ago, TSA's new director said every test gun, bomb part or knife got past screeners at some airports.

frost · 12-19-2010, 04:16 PM

TSA Gifts for You: Chlamydia, Gonorrhea & Lice | The Stir

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"These new scans are so horrible that if you are wearing something unusual (lie a piece of cloth on your panties) then you will be subjected to a search where a woman repeatedly has to check your "groin" while another woman watches on."

frost · 12-30-2010, 02:18 PM

T&SA | Canucklehead.ca | Canucklehead

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 545	Smoke and mirrors.

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Hybrid 350GT Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 95 Drives: TT 350GT Rep Power: 16	Actually... there is a good reason to screen even old white people... Anyone see the report about that young (22ish year old) Asian guy who dressed in and Old white guy mask and used an ID showing a 55year old DOB. He was only caught after removing the mask in the Airplane Lav. YES HE MADE IT ONTO THE AIRCRAFT. On the other hand, all of this extra security has basically caused a cluster of people at the Security line. Well, the true task of a terrorist isn't to get onto an airplane, it's to kill people. So now U have a large cluster of people, sometimes larger than most aircraft can handle, just sitting there. What is to stop a suicide bomber to just get into the middle of this line and explode? How easy could it be for a few of these guys to organize a simultaneous hit at LAX, NY, Boston, etc. They would kill hundreds, and it would put a huge halt on air travel, temporarily. Just as a Security measure is put into place, it just opens a new opportunity. Besides...all this high security, they still leave gigantic holes left for a terrorist to take advantage of. Take San Diego Airport for example.... I am there very often and I never see any security roaming the perimeter. All it takes is for a terrorist group to get someone to work on the inside, say.. a catering company. They roam the grounds of the airport all day. Someone could literally throw something over the fence and this guy comes and gets it. He can get right on to an airplane with that material. These points are actual concerns by real pilots.

11-22-2010, 07:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 32	I agree with Mike the issue isnt so much the organization itself but its how their doing what they are doing.. and honestly.. the quality of people they hire. Almost reminds me of being at the DMV... but funny thing is with my last name and my look ive never once had to go through any special security or checks. i just screwed myself for my next flight. And also I think someone said it earlier, if we have to rely on the TSA to catch the terrorists.. we've already lost .. its too late.

11-24-2010, 08:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
jetguy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: atlanta Posts: 311 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 16	What? I thought the tsa are all ex-black ops agents or highly trained anti terror experts of some kind.