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arcticreaver 03-12-2009 04:41 PM

Living in California just sucked even more now...
 
okay, so i'm not sure for those that reside in CA know that our freakin' taxes are just about to increase about 1%-1.25%. but its basically 1% increase in taxes. that's freakin' 9.xx% on everything!!!!!

good lord. CA sucks!!!

arnold, you are screwing with us!!!!!!

!xoible 03-12-2009 04:42 PM

yes. **** arnold

BanningZ 03-12-2009 04:51 PM

So this is sales tax? We vehimately fight a proposed sales tax every year here in Oregon. we are not fans.

arcticreaver 03-12-2009 05:15 PM

yeah SALES tax just went up in CA. hehe impeach arnold?

dad 03-12-2009 05:55 PM

Cities and counties taxes:
California City and County Sales and Use Tax Rates - Board of Equalization

frost 03-12-2009 07:08 PM

I keep saying, move to phoenix. we have just as much beach, just no water :D

Crash 03-12-2009 09:01 PM

LOL! He had no choice but to raise it... He screwed up too much before hand that this was the only option left. I don't plan to even see an income tax refund at all.

Why people voted him in, I just can't understand. He can't even pronounce California. He says something like "Coll-ee-forn-a". That's pretty embarrassing.

Well, look on the bright side: Everyone is trying to hold on to their money so much right now that they're not paying attention to anything else that's going on. So when they run out of money FASTER this way, they won't have to worry about their money and they can pay attention to the rest of the current events going on.


We're all F$%*ed.

epod86 03-12-2009 09:27 PM

To think there is a 50/50 chance I'm going to end up in CA in the next 6 months.

Bugger.

arcticreaver 03-12-2009 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 43024)
LOL! He had no choice but to raise it... He screwed up too much before hand that this was the only option left. I don't plan to even see an income tax refund at all.

Why people voted him in, I just can't understand. He can't even pronounce California. He says something like "Coll-ee-forn-a". That's pretty embarrassing.

Well, look on the bright side: Everyone is trying to hold on to their money so much right now that they're not paying attention to anything else that's going on. So when they run out of money FASTER this way, they won't have to worry about their money and they can pay attention to the rest of the current events going on.


We're all F$%*ed.

i actually got 586.00 dollars for my income tax refund. well with the way he's going to tax us, i just hope Obama gives us a stimulus check of some sort. i think any amount would be great.

i think it's time to impeach the terminator. didn't he also lay off like 20,000 workers??? damn.

Arcangel 03-12-2009 11:58 PM

You think the problems in California stem from Arnold!! Maybe its the huge illegal immigrant population, or the liberal tree hugging environmentalists who run your state. Or the spend and spend liberals like Nancy Pelosi that dug the hole that Arnold has been trying to fill. I'm not a fan of the govenator hes not my style, but this crap wasnt his fault

BanningZ 03-13-2009 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcangel (Post 43087)
You think the problems in California stem from Arnold!! Maybe its the huge illegal immigrant population, or the liberal tree hugging environmentalists who run your state. Or the spend and spend liberals like Nancy Pelosi that dug the hole that Arnold has been trying to fill. I'm not a fan of the govenator hes not my style, but this crap wasnt his fault

Those illegal immigrants have kept California and much of the country afloat. Over the past year they have all started returning to Mexico and various other central and South America countries (i.e. their homes), and guess what California's economy has suffered much worse than many other states. I have worked with plenty of Mexican/south American immigrant, both legal and illegal. Most of them are hard working, and spend LOTS of money in our economy. Now that their leaving it is only adding to the current economic crisis.

As to "tree hugging environmentalists. I want a 400HP hybrid. Companies like Toyota have achieved this on a functional concept level. I want to leave something more for my children besides a smoking hole in the ground. On an individual level many of them are too radical, on a collective level it is an important movement that has been quashed for years by OPEC and Capitalistic imperialist followers in the top 1% of our country. Environmentalism is awesome as long as its moderately implemented over time.

Its kind of hard to point fingers at Nancy Pelosi when people like Sarah Palin, **** Cheney, and Karl Rove exist out there. Spend and spend? Have you been cryogenically frozen for the past nine years? We had a surplus when you were first frozen. :icon14:

drill baby drill??? Yup that's the answer.:gtfo2:

ozzfest 03-13-2009 03:59 PM

^^^ Great point.

frost 03-13-2009 04:02 PM

^
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dad 03-13-2009 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanningZ (Post 43136)
Those illegal immigrants have kept California and much of the country afloat. Over the past year they have all started returning to Mexico and various other central and South America countries (i.e. their homes), and guess what California's economy has suffered much worse than many other states. I have worked with plenty of Mexican/south American immigrant, both legal and illegal. Most of them are hard working, and spend LOTS of money in our economy. Now that their leaving it is only adding to the current economic crisis.

As to "tree hugging environmentalists. I want a 400HP hybrid. Companies like Toyota have achieved this on a functional concept level. I want to leave something more for my children besides a smoking hole in the ground. On an individual level many of them are too radical, on a collective level it is an important movement that has been quashed for years by OPEC and Capitalistic imperialist followers in the top 1% of our country. Environmentalism is awesome as long as its moderately implemented over time.

Its kind of hard to point fingers at Nancy Pelosi when people like Sarah Palin, **** Cheney, and Karl Rove exist out there. Spend and spend? Have you been cryogenically frozen for the past nine years? We had a surplus when you were first frozen. :icon14:

drill baby drill??? Yup that's the answer.:gtfo2:

Not really, they do contribute in monetary ways. But them leaving, has nothing to do with the short fall of money. Now that their leaving there will be more money in the Medi-Cal system, which they abuse.
The short fall of money isn't Arnold's fault, it's the people under him. The California Politicians who have been there for years and years, sucking off the tax payers!

frost 03-13-2009 08:35 PM

From the website http://www.articler.com/10519/Illega...And-Cons.html:

1. It helps keep the economy moving by filling low-wage jobs.
2. It provides a better lifestyle for those who enter the country illegally.
3. It creates a pool of consumers for a variety of goods and services.
4. Farmers are able to plant and harvest less expensively.
5. Contributions to social security funds often go unclaimed.
6. Illegal immigrants pay sales taxes.
7. Illegal residents, who are property owners, also pay real estate taxes.
8. Millions of illegals rent properties in depressed areas where renters are hard to find.
9. They purchase real estate and generate commissions for agents and brokers.
10. Illegal immigrants contribute to mortgage loan profits.
11. They open bank accounts that yield interest and dividends to bankers.
12. Many purchase auto insurance and contribute to insurers profits margins.

Cons Of Illegal Immigration:

1. Burden on tax-based resources, costing taxpayers billions of dollars.
2. Difficult prosecution and justice when perpetrators flee the country.
3. Disparity between legal immigrants who follow the rules and those who don't.
4. They risk death when traveling the desert to reach the borders.
5. Those who successfully cross the border inspire those left behind to do the same.
6. Continued growth of the demand for cheap labor and low wages.
7. No government reimbursement to offset states' illegal alien maintenance costs.
8. Potential negative effects on working and middle-class citizens.
9. Millions of U.S. dollars remitted to Mexico
10. Mortgage loan fraud
11. Fake document mills
12. Imbalance in authorized immigration quotas

Thoughts?


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