Anyone Open Carry?

frost · 07-26-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

Anyway, I'm not some gun freak or anything

... I just can't stand the fact that both our civil liberty's as well as the constitution are being slowly smothered right out from under us.

You know there was a time when just about EVERY man was packing heat (openly) and it didn't seem such a big deal then. They weren't trying to do the job of the town sheriff or it's deputies, rather, they were just doing as they always have. Protecting themselves and their loved ones. You know... there's a hell of a lot more crime in todays world and I figure if I can promote safety in the confines of the law, then why the hell not? The criminals certainly don't ask permission.

The problem with gun laws is criminals don't care about gun laws. Gun laws only make it harder for the legitimate people to carry them. You think your average thief/rapist/killer cares if he doesn't have a CCW? Hardy fuckin har. I would be all for gun control, if we could get rid of every single one of them on the planet. But criminals are ALWAYS going to have guns, plain and simple.

KillerBee370 · 07-26-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

The problem with gun laws is criminals don't care about gun laws. Gun laws only make it harder for the legitimate people to carry them. You think your average thief/rapist/killer cares if he doesn't have a CCW? Hardy fuckin har. I would be all for gun control, if we could get rid of every single one of them on the planet. But criminals are ALWAYS going to have guns, plain and simple.

That's exactaly right.

I've heard it said this way...

"Seat belts, bike helmets, speed limits, cross walks, child seats, life jackets and the list goes on. Why does it seem normal to societyforus toprotect ourselves from everything but a violent crime?"

Yup... I keep a loaded fire extingisher in my house too. Have I ever had to use it? Nope...

vash_241987 · 07-27-2010, 03:31 AM

Can't OC here in TX, I am currently waiting on the DPS to finish processing my CHL, in the mean time I bought a CCW, a walther PPS in 9mm. Since I got a keg for an abdomen, a slimmer gun would be a good thing for me.

I need more practice, was shooting at 5yds

racerxj17 · 07-27-2010, 03:33 AM

As a Leo in socal, I'm all for ccw for the general population. Lots of studies have been done.... Areas with ccws to puic don't show an increase in gun related crime. As a Leo, everyone gets treated as if they have a gun, so what's it matter? The bad guys shoot like crap anyways. Lol.

Windex_ · 07-27-2010, 03:42 AM

I wish I could even own a gun... I got informal summary probation for the next 2 years... I have no PO but its still illegal

racerxj17 · 07-27-2010, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Windex_

I wish I could even own a gun... I got informal summary probation for the next 2 years... I have no PO but its still illegal

Charge?

shadoquad · 07-27-2010, 08:48 AM

An armed society is a polite society.

KillerBee370 · 07-27-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by racerxj17

As a Leo in socal, I'm all for ccw for the general population. Lots of studies have been done.... Areas with ccws to puic don't show an increase in gun related crime. As a Leo, everyone gets treated as if they have a gun, so what's it matter? The bad guys shoot like crap anyways. Lol.

Agreed. I think statiscally the crime rate is actually lower in areas that have a higher ccw and even oc rate.

Windex_ · 07-27-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by racerxj17

Charge?

Driving while suspend... I got caught three times. first time I had no clue. Second time the lady at court told me if I got abstracts for my tickets she would reinstate it there on the spot. third time my sr22 hadnt cleared, another case of "youll be good in 24-48 hours"... it processed the day after I got pulled over.
I got 3 years probation, 1.5 years suspension added to my 6 months, and 30 days county jail. I managed to get the 30 days knocked down to 7.

StLRedrider · 07-28-2010, 10:42 AM

yes, we have conceal and carry here in the big M0. i mainly do it for safty at work but now i find when i leave without out it it's like forgetting my wallet.

KillerBee370 · 07-28-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by StLRedrider

yes, we have conceal and carry here in the big M0. i mainly do it for safty at work but now i find when i leave without out it it's like forgetting my wallet.

There are 40 (I believe) "shall issue" states. Unfortunately California is not one of them (yet!), so I am stuck with open carry only for now until (if) I get approved for my conceal carry permit.

So much for the Bill of Rights eh?

SmoothZ · 07-29-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

Yup.. California has an open carry policy and under rule 12031 (e), an officer is allowed to check the weapon to see if it's loaded but that's it. It's still a violation of the 4th Amendment IMO but it is what it is for now...

I carry a Glock 20 (10mm).

lol @ 4th amendment. I think the point of the weapons check is to ensure the safety of many and damn the rights of one person. I could be wrong...

Glock 20... I think that's what the Famous But Incompetent carry....

specZ · 07-29-2010, 07:46 PM

In the words of criminals...."Hunting is no fun, if the prey's got a gun". Gun control is one of many reasons I plan on moving away from california down the road.

370Zsteve · 07-29-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

An armed society is a polite society.

Says the guy with an avatar that looks like something out of Hellraiser

KillerBee370 · 07-29-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

lol @ 4th amendment. I think the point of the weapons check is to ensure the safety of many and damn the rights of one person. I could be wrong...

Glock 20... I think that's what the Famous But Incompetent carry....

The "many" are safer just for the reason that a law abiding citizen is carrying one in the first place.

I don't know what the Foolish Boys In black carry. Could be.

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racerxj17 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 555 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 18	As a Leo in socal, I'm all for ccw for the general population. Lots of studies have been done.... Areas with ccws to puic don't show an increase in gun related crime. As a Leo, everyone gets treated as if they have a gun, so what's it matter? The bad guys shoot like crap anyways. Lol. __________________ 2009 PW Sport/Touring/Nav M6 Stillen Gen 3 Intake/CBE/Berk HFC/BC BR Coil over/Phillips 6500k/Hotchkis Sways/Stillen oil cooler/B&M SS

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StLRedrider A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St.louis,Mo Posts: 17,755 Drives: O9Sprt/Touring,p-51 Rep Power: 61	yes, we have conceal and carry here in the big M0. i mainly do it for safty at work but now i find when i leave without out it it's like forgetting my wallet. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today J.Dean

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specZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 336 Drives: On The Weekends Rep Power: 24	In the words of criminals...."Hunting is no fun, if the prey's got a gun". Gun control is one of many reasons I plan on moving away from california down the road.