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Isamu 07-01-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1200350)
the sad thing is, there shouldn't need to be any legislation/taxes or other sort of motivation, you'd think an american grown company would, thru basic sense of honor, duty, and Patriotism, WANT to give back to this great country and try and do it's part ot make it and it's citizens more successful. Shameful isn't strong enough a word imo.

At what point is earning more $$$, on top of already large sums of money, justification enough to sh!t all over everyone and everything? Unbridled capitalism is just another word for greed.

Makes me sad sometimes to think that I sacrificed my health and a significant quality of life for this country and so many other "citizens" of this nation are so caught up in $$$ and selffishness they can't see beyond their own noses. :shakes head:

exactly!!

Lemers 07-01-2011 10:11 PM

Don't forget. This democratic country has a capitalistic economy. That means that a home grown company should do what it takes to make money. The other side to that is the the country shouldn't be bailing out companies because that stalls growth in the long run.

By bailing out GM we may have set back the evolution of the auto industry years or even generations by paying and awarding status quo.

FL 4Motion 07-01-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1200544)
Don't forget. This democratic country has a capitalistic economy. That means that a home grown company should do what it takes to make money. The other side to that is the the country shouldn't be bailing out companies because that stalls growth in the long run.

By bailing out GM we may have set back the evolution of the auto industry years or even generations by paying and awarding status quo
.

/\ Agree 100%

I also think that our capitalist society is starting to show some serious cracks. We need something a bit better.

FL 4Motion 07-01-2011 10:43 PM

I feel the need to elaborate a bit before someone gets out the pitchforks and starts accusing me of being a godless communist.

Communism doesn't work. People are inherently selfish and lazy. therefore eliminating the motiviation to improve one's productivity by severely limiting one's ability to acquire material wealth, possessions etc is bad.

Socialism is severely flawed for much the same reasons as above.

Unbridled Capitalism is also severely flawed, it assumes and requires the ability to sustain unlimited growth to be successful. the population is encouraged and really in our economic model, required to continually consume more and more products to keep the economy rolling. I find it funny that the stock market reacts negatively when reports come out saying that folks are being more responsible now and saving more.

this planet also has a finite supply of resources which will/is starting to pose a problem as well.

I'm not sure of the solution honestly, but some happy medium of capitalism with some socialism mixed in is probably the best working model. Ie, I think SS and medicare are good programs (just run very very poorly).

Also, if you take unregulated capitalism (which is what we seem to be getting more and more of every year), to it's logical conclusion, you end up with an extremely wealthy elite, mega corporations, and a disenfranchised lower class with little chance of upward mobility and an all but extinct middle class.

shadoquad 07-01-2011 10:49 PM

doodoo smells gross.

Lemers 07-01-2011 10:51 PM

Yeah we need to quit going down the socialist road.

When less than half the people pay taxes socialism stars. "No taxation without repensintation" works both ways . Only 40% of US population actually pay taxes but anyone can vote. It's like a conflict of interests. I'm not paying into the public coffers but I'm gonna vote for people that are gonna give me bennifits. "Take from them to give to me." "Tax only the richest". These are socialistic ideas that are eroding America

FL 4Motion 07-01-2011 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1200609)
Yeah we need to quit going down the socialist road.

When less than half the people pay taxes socialism stars. "No taxation without repensintation" works both ways . Only 40% of US population actually pay taxes but anyone can vote. It's like a conflict of interests. I'm not paying into the public coffers but I'm gonna vote for people that are gonna give me bennifits. "Take from them to give to me." "Tax only the richest". These are socialistic ideas that are eroding America

/\ agree 100%. This might sound extreme, but I think the right to vote needs to be an earned right thru service to one's country in some form or another. Could be military, state dept, even mabye a job at the state level, basically, you should have to upon graduation spend 2-4 years at some type of work that is for the benefit of the US. Upon completion of the work, you then can have the right to vote.

I know that's exteme, but I really think we need to reindoctrinate the citizens of this country so they can be better Americans. (btw, I'm half Colombian and my mom's a naturalized citizen but I HATE when people say I'm xyz-american or whatever, shut the fucv up, you're either an American or your not, be proud of your heritage but remember what country your loyalty belongs to).

Sorry for the rant, i'm in one of my moods tonight.

FL 4Motion 07-01-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1200605)
doodoo smells gross.

speak for yourself, my sh!t smells like roses.

Isamu 07-02-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1200605)
dildos smells gross.

wash it?

blue660r01 07-02-2011 01:44 AM

wtf

nogoodname 07-02-2011 01:45 AM

:wtf:

blue660r01 07-02-2011 01:49 AM

this forum ftl this year so far

Isamu 07-02-2011 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 1200779)
this forum ftl this year so far

cuz your making a come back?

nogoodname 07-02-2011 02:13 AM

it's about to get ignant in here!

blue660r01 07-02-2011 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1200783)
cuz your making a come back?

:rolleyes:

Isamu 07-02-2011 03:07 AM

what? just:stirthepot:

shadoquad 07-02-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 1200779)
this forum ftl this year so far

Pony up & go prem. Or else I'll pm u newd :pics: of me.

nogoodname 07-02-2011 08:29 AM

no you won't

KaienZ34 07-02-2011 08:43 AM

Yes he will, you should see the things he sends me.

nogoodname 07-02-2011 08:44 AM

he gonna get bannted!

KaienZ34 07-02-2011 08:47 AM

Well i mean they are sexy pics and all but things he sticks up has bum. Just to much for me.

Lemers 07-02-2011 10:19 AM

You know they get you excited.

KaienZ34 07-02-2011 11:29 AM

True, but the level of excitement is out of this world.

370zproject 07-02-2011 12:54 PM

what did i miss lol

Lemers 07-02-2011 02:01 PM

I'm playing paintball with my son and his friends

KaienZ34 07-02-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1201145)
I'm playing paintball with my son and his friends


That's very cool of you.

Lemers 07-02-2011 04:41 PM

We just got done they had a blast

Isamu 07-02-2011 06:15 PM

holy crap I missed alot

KaienZ34 07-02-2011 06:24 PM

That's what happens when you lock yousellf in the closest and beat it to death.

FL 4Motion 07-02-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1201456)
That's what happens when you lock yousellf in the closest and beat it to death.

never pictured Mu as a closet 'bator, more like an out and proud kinda guy. :xmas1:(closest thing to a masturbation smilie I could find :))

Lemers 07-02-2011 08:17 PM

Is that smiley balancing presents on it's penor?

FL 4Motion 07-02-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1201561)
Is that smiley balancing presents on it's penor?

that's exactly what my first impression was too. therefore I say it's decided, it IS in fact balancing gifts on it's winky.

fullmonty 07-02-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1201561)
Is that smiley balancing presents on it's penor?

I'm balancing a present to you on mine

Lemers 07-02-2011 09:41 PM

Don't you usually cut a hole in a pizza box?

fullmonty 07-02-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1201640)
Don't you usually cut a hole in a pizza box?

and a Bucket of popcorn on special occasions :tup:

KaienZ34 07-02-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 1201642)
and a Bucket of popcorn on special occasions :tup:


I love this trick.

Isamu 07-03-2011 01:03 AM

dude... WTF...
Germany and EU hit the "like" button on Child Porn!

KaienZ34 07-03-2011 01:16 AM

You thinking about moving?

Isamu 07-03-2011 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1201550)
never pictured Mu as a closet 'bator, more like an out and proud kinda guy. :xmas1:(closest thing to a masturbation smilie I could find :))

damn right bro! ... you been watching me? :bowrofl::bowrofl:

Isamu 07-03-2011 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1201789)
You thinking about moving?

you are one sick fuck Mac


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