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shadoquad 05-25-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dixon cider (Post 1131946)
Of course

Yep

I'm sick of it honestly. If my boys didn't want to play, I would be happy to never go to a kids game again. Sad.

Dude, honestly, I hate overbearing sports parents. They have absolutely no respect for the goings on. They get too involved. The games are supposed to be about the kids, not their parents' sick unfulfilled sport fantasies or over-competitive natures.

dixon cider 05-25-2011 11:25 AM

Yep. I'd kick their zzz if the kids weren't around.

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1132028)
I'm thinking about it. :mad:

GTM TT?? Stage 1/2??

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dixon cider (Post 1132056)
Yep. I'd kick their zzz if the kids weren't around.

I'd kick the kids azz... in front of the parents. :tup:

dixon cider 05-25-2011 11:29 AM

:icon18: I hear ya. I feel that way too sometimes.

KaienZ34 05-25-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132057)
GTM TT?? Stage 1/2??


He's got the single turbo setup.

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1132118)
He's got the single turbo setup.

:icon08:


Esplain....

Dzel 05-25-2011 11:44 AM

Which lead to said problems. 98 I was really hoping you could figure it all out.

dixon cider 05-25-2011 12:20 PM

What happened to 98's car?

KaienZ34 05-25-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132139)
:icon08:


Esplain....


I think he's got a custom single turbo setup, i don't know all the details. There is a link in his sig, check it out.

KaienZ34 05-25-2011 12:29 PM

Here's the link for he's "Top mount single turbo setup"

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...urbo-370z.html

dixon cider 05-25-2011 12:40 PM

Thx

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 12:43 PM

Fast forwarded through it... Why would someone wanna go single turbo on a V6..?? I could understand on an I4... or I6 like a bimmer... :ugh:

ClemsonWill 05-25-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132321)
Fast forwarded through it... Why would someone wanna go single turbo on a V6..?? I could understand on an I4... or I6 like a bimmer... :ugh:

Allows for a bigger turbo. More potential up top but more turbo lag down low.

ClemsonWill 05-25-2011 01:27 PM

Plus it's cheaper than TT.

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 1132443)
Allows for a bigger turbo. More potential up top but more turbo lag down low.

So just for big numbers/distinction, not really streetable...?

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 1132444)
Plus it's cheaper than TT.

LoL Well that goes without saying. ^_^

shadoquad 05-25-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132448)
So just for big numbers/distinction, not really streetable...?

More high-end power for drag racing, from what I understand.

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1132455)
More high-end power for drag racing, from what I understand.

But what good is that when the turbo doesn't spool up till you're halfway down the track??

Honestly more power to him for taking on the project, but it just seems like trying to find room to route all the exhaust/intake piping seems like it's more of a hassle than just settling for an S/C or a TT... :ugh2:

Pics look great, but wow lol

ClemsonWill 05-25-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132448)
So just for big numbers/distinction, not really streetable...?



LoL Well that goes without saying. ^_^

It can be streetable but most use them for big power. Would not be track friendly at all. Look at the supras and Rx7s. Most hitting really high WHP are using a single turbo setup.

ClemsonWill 05-25-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132465)
But what good is that when the turbo doesn't spool up till you're halfway down the track??

Honestly more power to him for taking on the project, but it just seems like trying to find room to route all the exhaust/intake piping seems like it's more of a hassle than just settling for an S/C or a TT... :ugh2:

Pics look great, but wow lol

I give props to him for trying something new. It's uncharted territory Give it a few years when our cars can be had for cheaper. The single turbo setups will probably be more desireable.

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 1132471)
It can be streetable but most use them for big power. Would not be track friendly at all. Look at the supras and Rx7s. Most hitting really high WHP are using a single turbo setup.

I agree, if you're going for magazine covers then by all means go for it...

But in reality sense (Unless this is purely a drag/numbers car) it's not really useful...

I'd hate to see his IATs from this routing and moving the turbo up in front of the engine like that. :wtf2:

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 1132477)
I give props to him for trying something new. It's uncharted territory Give it a few years when our cars can be had for cheaper. The single turbo setups will probably be more desireable.

Oh, I totally am giving props for going balls out. Not bashin that at all, it's cool that he's stepping up for that. I just dunno if I could ever do something like that myself. I'd like to see the finished product in person though... I wonder how they R&D'd the piping to make sure the exhaust cycles didn't interfere with eachother at the turbo.

Dzel 05-25-2011 01:45 PM

I want a single turbo or a sc for my ride basically cause I'm gonna have stock internals and I'm gonna run 8-10 psi of boost. I don't want that big shock to the internals that come from a TT

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 1132499)
I want a single turbo or a sc for my ride basically cause I'm gonna have stock internals and I'm gonna run 8-10 psi of boost. I don't want that big shock to the internals that come from a TT

Do you plan to track it at all? Cause if not the only time you'll have that shock through DD/street driving is occasionally for short times. (Onramps, passing, dyno runs) So the Stress isn't constant like say Tracking. With a properly done Safe tune, TT isn't as scary as it sounds.

ClemsonWill 05-25-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132481)
I agree, if you're going for magazine covers then by all means go for it...

But in reality sense (Unless this is purely a drag/numbers car) it's not really useful...

I'd hate to see his IATs from this routing and moving the turbo up in front of the engine like that. :wtf2:

:iagree:

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132484)
Oh, I totally am giving props for going balls out. Not bashin that at all, it's cool that he's stepping up for that. I just dunno if I could ever do something like that myself. I'd like to see the finished product in person though... I wonder how they R&D'd the piping to make sure the exhaust cycles didn't interfere with eachother at the turbo.

Yeah, as Intrigue is finding out. It's really expensive to pioneer a new setup like that. I don't have the cash flow for that.

If I remember right his ext manifold comes into one pipe pretty evenly so I'm thinking it's ok. on the other hand there is some debate on the throttle body intakes not being equal length.

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 1132520)
:iagree:



Yeah, as Intrigue is finding out. It's really expensive to pioneer a new setup like that. I don't have the cash flow for that.

If I remember right his ext manifold comes into one pipe pretty evenly so I'm thinking it's ok. on the other hand there is some debate on the throttle body intakes not being equal length.

It seems they're building faster than they R&D'd... :ugh2:

I just don't see there being enough room in the engine bay to route all the piping you need, unless you sacrifice diameter/length/heat soak to make it all work, even then it just doesn't seem like it will ever be 100%...

Lemers 05-25-2011 02:01 PM

It's seems that any way you go with our cars the extra power is just very pricey and has too many problems. It's like Nissan built this engine to it's limits and anything else is just gonna damage it in the long run.

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1132540)
It's seems that any way you go with our cars the extra power is just very pricey and has too many problems. It's like Nissan built this engine to it's limits and anything else is just gonna damage it in the long run.

The primary difference between Japanese Imports and Domestics...

Lemers 05-25-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132546)
The primary difference between Japanese Imports and Domestics...

I though if importers wanted a faster engine they use better tech to make it more efficient and domestics just make it with more displacement.

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1132728)
I though if importers wanted a faster engine they use better tech to make it more efficient and domestics just make it with more displacement.

Importers maximize the power out of each motor before they produce it... Domestics make theirs economical, not powerful. That's why they react so well to modding vs ours our only Real power gain is F.I.

Dzel 05-25-2011 03:56 PM

Chris your the only one that has defended the TT when I compare it to a single or a sc

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 1132804)
Chris your the only one that has defended the TT when I compare it to a single or a sc

Is this a compliment... orrr a critique... :ugh2:

Dzel 05-25-2011 04:15 PM

Eh however you want to take it!!! Lol

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 1132830)
Eh however you want to take it!!! Lol

:inoutroflpuke:

Dzel 05-25-2011 04:22 PM

TT kits sure are alot more expensive than a sc. And you'll get about the same hp

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 1132840)
TT kits sure are alot more expensive than a sc. And you'll get about the same hp

TT I think appeals more to those who haven't dove into the F.I. world before and like the sound/instant power build of a setup like that. S/C's are for the guys that have already done TT and see that an S/C is just as potent, and less costly, and better for long term use...

shadoquad 05-25-2011 04:25 PM

Stop being so god damned USEFUL

98intrigue 05-25-2011 04:25 PM

Chris, the car was very streetable at ZDayz. Coolant temps were normal, oil temps never went over 240 pushing it hard through the dragon. At cruising, oil temps were at 205. The car is only tuned at 4.7psi and made 430whp and full boost came on at 4300rpms...

Yes, this would have been MUCH less of a headache had I just gone with a GTM kit...but I wanted a single. I didnt expect this many headaches though. I already bit more than I could chew by going through with this build. Now all these headaches are quickly making the "fun" of modding totally regrettable. I'm not sure what I'm going to do when I get home. I keep thinking I'm so close to completing this setup, but more and more **** keeps happening. I don't want to think it's finally done...only for a week later for another problem to arise. I'd like to think I'm so close to having this setup finished...but I'm thinking about putting the car back to stock. This has totally killed my enjoyment of the car.

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1132851)
Chris, the car was very streetable at ZDayz. Coolant temps were normal, oil temps never went over 240 pushing it hard through the dragon. At cruising, oil temps were at 205. The car is only tuned at 4.7psi and made 430whp and full boost came on at 4300rpms...

Yes, this would have been MUCH less of a headache had I just gone with a GTM kit...but I wanted a single. I didnt expect this many headaches though. I already bit more than I could chew by going through with this build. Now all these headaches are quickly making the "fun" of modding totally regrettable. I'm not sure what I'm going to do when I get home. I keep thinking I'm so close to completing this setup, but more and more **** keeps happening. I don't want to think it's finally done...only for a week later for another problem to arise. I'd like to think I'm so close to having this setup finished...but I'm thinking about putting the car back to stock. This has totally killed my enjoyment of the car.

Hey man, I just dont want you to ever think I'm criticizing your kit. I think it's awesome what you're doing and I really want it to come out perfect like you want cause this is certainly a good happy medium for the F.I. community that can't afford TT (like me :ugh2: )

Yeah it sucks having so many problems and frustrations, but that comes with the territory of being the first. I know it seems like its just problem after problem, but as you keep working forward and working through them. They will get resolved and eventually (finally) you'll be done. It's not so much the destination, but you have to enjoy the journey. Don't lose faith of your determination and don't let go of your goal.

I look forward to seeing dyno/driving vids and pics of the whole thing. I would be really interested to see the completed engine bay piping once its all done.

Has heat soak from the exhaust routing caused any IAT problems??

Dzel 05-25-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1132844)
TT I think appeals more to those who haven't dove into the F.I. world before and like the sound/instant power build of a setup like that. S/C's are for the guys that have already done TT and see that an S/C is just as potent, and less costly, and better for long term use...

You just sold me on the SC friend.

Intrique I hope all works out for you bud no matter what you choose to do with the car. But you've come so far, that's something to think about. Heavy is the head that wears the crown my friend.


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