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vtec to vvel 05-06-2025 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4054997)
So.... last year my 2011 Kia Forte needed brakes. I'm pretty sure cause I heard metal on metal... LOL!

I take it to my local guy whose always done me good with oil changes, fluid flushes, tire rotations and such.

60,000 miles on it and he tells me grinding noise is because pads and rotors are shot (uh, yup) needs brake pads, rotors and calipers. I asked why calipers. He says they've been extended to far into the rotors and they're not sure they'll come back. I scratch my head and say, ok do it. $1100 for the fronts. Refused to hear anything about the backs as he tells me got plenty of pads on them.

Fast forward 13 months and about 13,000 miles. Ive got a high frequency shake in the steering wheel when brakes lightly applied, a full pulse at slow speed.

I'm thinking they gave me the shittiest rotors ever. I call them up. Told me 12 month warranty... but they'll see what they can do...

To be continued....

Hope everything is okay. The rear brake pads typically last twice as long as the fronts.

And the calipers being extended into the rotors....what does that even mean? :confused:

Do you know what brand brake pads they put on? Cheap pads can easily (and unevenly) transfer the pad material to the rotors (i.e. "warped" rotor) and cause the vibrations.

vtec to vvel 05-06-2025 11:08 PM

It's been exactly 12 weeks since I walked out of my old job, and it has been really boring. Been working out more, taking random road trips, fishing, doing all the housework, cleared out my to-do list....for those that are retired, how does not working not get old?

Put in a few job apps and ready to work again.

Rusty 05-07-2025 05:47 AM

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Morning

Rusty 05-07-2025 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4055001)
It's been exactly 12 weeks since I walked out of my old job, and it has been really boring. Been working out more, taking random road trips, fishing, doing all the housework, cleared out my to-do list....for those that are retired, how does not working not get old?

Put in a few job apps and ready to work again.

I retired in 2016. Went back to work after about a year. Did the Home Depot thing during covid. Quit, and took a year off. Got bored again and started to drive a semi for about a year just to see what it was like. Company I work for now got me through LinkedIn. Have my own company pickup. Drive around all day out in the gas patch as they call it. Taking care of the company customers. It's a zero stress job and they pay me well.

MZ DAIZY 05-07-2025 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4055000)
Hope everything is okay. The rear brake pads typically last twice as long as the fronts.

And the calipers being extended into the rotors....what does that even mean? :confused:

Do you know what brand brake pads they put on? Cheap pads can easily (and unevenly) transfer the pad material to the rotors (i.e. "warped" rotor) and cause the vibrations.

Hmmm... that makes sense. No idea what brand. Basically, he's saying the calipers where out to far due to execcive wear on pads. My BS meter was pegged but he was good up to that point. Also, some days the pulsing is worse than others. Not sure what that's about. Although now that I type this your theory about crappy pads makes sense.

MZ DAIZY 05-07-2025 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4055004)
I retired in 2016. Went back to work after about a year. Did the Home Depot thing during covid. Quit, and took a year off. Got bored again and started to drive a semi for about a year just to see what it was like. Company I work for now got me through LinkedIn. Have my own company pickup. Drive around all day out in the gas patch as they call it. Taking care of the company customers. It's a zero stress job and they pay me well.

I sold my main business in 2012 and did nothing for 5 years. My wife signed us up for golf lessons cause she got tired of me sitting around the house drinking beer all day. We wound up getting employed part time at our golf club. It's a high stress and a low paying job, but I golf 6 days a week for free so there's that. I have a side gig printing t-shirts that basically died due to Covid. I'm thinking I might put a little effort into that to build it up again.

Rusty 05-07-2025 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4055008)
I sold my main business in 2012 and did nothing for 5 years. My wife signed us up for golf lessons cause she got tired of me sitting around the house drinking beer all day. We wound up getting employed part time at our golf club. It's a high stress and a low paying job, but I golf 6 days a week for free so there's that. I have a side gig printing t-shirts that basically died due to Covid. I'm thinking I might put a little effort into that to build it up again.

Covid killed a lot of things. Not only people. I was also doing some consulting work with a friend of mine from Elliott. When covid hit, that dried up. I was making some good money doing that too.

vtec to vvel 05-07-2025 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4055007)
Hmmm... that makes sense. No idea what brand. Basically, he's saying the calipers where out to far due to execcive wear on pads. My BS meter was pegged but he was good up to that point. Also, some days the pulsing is worse than others. Not sure what that's about. Although now that I type this your theory about crappy pads makes sense.

My bad, I should clarify that the material type of the pads plays a huge factor as well. I typically go with either OEM's or Autozone Duralast Gold.

There's a number of factors that could cause the warping of rotors, but I'm willing to bet it's most likely due to the quality of the pads/transfer of material, esp. with the timeframe you listed.

1. Some people drive with 2 feet in an automatic (their left foot constantly riding the brake pedal). I don't imagine you'd be doing this.
2. Racing to a red light and stomping on the brakes at the last second constantly. Again, don't imagine this would be you.
3. Improper installation - from proper seating to lubing the parts to even cleaning off the brake dust off the shims, etc.
4. This isn't likely, but driving over a decent puddle of water and getting on the rotors (your rotors in this case would have to be extremely hot to a point where they are glowing red and in this case would likely crack the rotors).
5. Quality/type of brake pads

As far as the caliper, even if you wore down the pad material, there's still a quarter inch of metal of the pad backing plate that would scrap metal to metal with the rotors before it got to the metal part of the caliper (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this).

When we had the '13 Kia Optima, I do remember changing the brakes was very straight-forward and easy process, and took about 30 min. for both sides of the front.

vtec to vvel 05-07-2025 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4055004)
I retired in 2016. Went back to work after about a year. Did the Home Depot thing during covid. Quit, and took a year off. Got bored again and started to drive a semi for about a year just to see what it was like. Company I work for now got me through LinkedIn. Have my own company pickup. Drive around all day out in the gas patch as they call it. Taking care of the company customers. It's a zero stress job and they pay me well.

You are living the life!

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4055008)
I sold my main business in 2012 and did nothing for 5 years. My wife signed us up for golf lessons cause she got tired of me sitting around the house drinking beer all day. We wound up getting employed part time at our golf club. It's a high stress and a low paying job, but I golf 6 days a week for free so there's that. I have a side gig printing t-shirts that basically died due to Covid. I'm thinking I might put a little effort into that to build it up again.

There's still a market for custom t-shirts. I order a bunch a week from Amazon, mostly with dumb/comedic custom writing on it lol.

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4055013)
Covid killed a lot of things. Not only people. I was also doing some consulting work with a friend of mine from Elliott. When covid hit, that dried up. I was making some good money doing that too.

I can't believe it's been 5 years since COVID.

MZ DAIZY 05-07-2025 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4055013)
Covid killed a lot of things. Not only people. I was also doing some consulting work with a friend of mine from Elliott. When covid hit, that dried up. I was making some good money doing that too.

I was grossing between $12,000 and $14,000 a month pre covid. Now I'm lucky to gross $500 a month.

MZ DAIZY 05-07-2025 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4055015)
You are living the life!



There's still a market for custom t-shirts. I order a bunch a week from Amazon, mostly with dumb/comedic custom writing on it lol.



I can't believe it's been 5 years since COVID.

The profit margin on custom shirts is razor thin. Can't compete with China and India.

I sell a one sided shirt for between $22 and $24 which is rather high. All my equipment is payed off but a blank shirt costs me almost $7 (wholesale). Ink is SUPER expensive. Costs about $5 in ink depending on how much coverage. Shipping is $4 -$5. Then you have maintenance materials, various chemicals, electric etc. That's roughly $1 a print.

So your looking at a profit of $4 to $5 bucks a shirt. China sells shirts for less than my cost. They're crappy quality, but they're cheap. Most people dont care about the quality for a "goof" shirt.

So, basically I lose money on every shirt, but I make it up in volume! LOL!

MZ DAIZY 05-07-2025 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4055015)
You are living the life!



There's still a market for custom t-shirts. I order a bunch a week from Amazon, mostly with dumb/comedic custom writing on it lol.



I can't believe it's been 5 years since COVID.

Tell that to the clowns that still wear their face diapers in their car. Alone. :bowrofl:

vtec to vvel 05-07-2025 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4055016)
I was grossing between $12,000 and $14,000 a month pre covid. Now I'm lucky to gross $500 a month.

Respect to the geniuses that are able to start/maintain/sell their business. I don't have the brain capacity to do that. I'm one of those "tell me what to do and I'll do it" employee lol.

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4055017)
The profit margin on custom shirts is razor thin. Can't compete with China and India.

I sell a one sided shirt for between $22 and $24 which is rather high. All my equipment is payed off but a blank shirt costs me almost $7 (wholesale). Ink is SUPER expensive. Costs about $5 in ink depending on how much coverage. Shipping is $4 -$5. Then you have maintenance materials, various chemicals, electric etc. That's roughly $1 a print.

So your looking at a profit of $4 to $5 bucks a shirt. China sells shirts for less than my cost. They're crappy quality, but they're cheap. Most people dont care about the quality for a "goof" shirt.

So, basically I lose money on every shirt, but I make it up in volume! LOL!

Both of those countries are going through a war right now lol, one a trade war and the other literally a war.

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4055018)
Tell that to the clowns that still wear their face diapers in their car. Alone. :bowrofl:

People still wear these? :facepalm:

Rusty 05-07-2025 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4055016)
I was grossing between $12,000 and $14,000 a month pre covid. Now I'm lucky to gross $500 a month.

Consulting was paying $3,500 for a 5 day week to be on site plus per diem. Work once maybe twice a month when Howard needed me.

MZ DAIZY 05-07-2025 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4055020)
Consulting was paying $3,500 for a 5 day week to be on site plus per diem. Work once maybe twice a month when Howard needed me.

When i sold my business I held the note. I was on the payroll as a consultant until the note was payed in full. They would ask me what to do with certain customers or certain situations. Then they'd do the opposite. LOL! They ran it into the ground two years after I got my money in full.


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