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theDreamer 01-27-2010 11:27 AM

The Apple tablet
 
Should be announced today in a bit, and I will update this post when I get more info. Currently from the leaks it might be more than just a large iPod touch and actually a full new device.
The question I have though is will it breath new life into the tablet world which has been lack-luster the past 5 years. For those who want to follow a live feed of the announcement here you go:

Live from the Apple 'latest creation' event -- Engadget
Gizmodo Liveblog


Official name: iPad
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/appl...tabletb115.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....378-rm-eng.jpg

6MT 01-27-2010 11:30 AM

Tech-Junkies

theDreamer 01-27-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 376549)
Tech-Junkies

Car-junkies. :p
I have grown up with tech around me, so I keep track of everything, and usually end up owning a lot of it.:ugh2:

Horseface 01-27-2010 12:12 PM

The bezel is too big.

That puts me off. Too much dead space. But, let's see what it can do...

:)

theDreamer 01-27-2010 12:14 PM

No way I can keep up with the live broadcast, but will update the full post when they are done.

theDreamer 01-27-2010 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horseface (Post 376647)
The bezel is too big.

That puts me off. Too much dead space. But, let's see what it can do...

:)

Well but you will want more of your hand on it, versus an iPhone so a larger bezel is probably needed as not cover of the screen.

vipor 01-27-2010 12:26 PM

holy crap that iPad is like 4 times the size of Steve Jobs!!!! how are people supposed to carry it?!!?

DIGItonium 01-27-2010 12:27 PM

For the 2G iPad in a year or so, it'll be:

iPad (with wings)

vipor 01-27-2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 376679)
For the 2G iPad in a year or so, it'll be:

iPad (with wings)

http://www.the370z.com/members/vipor...culasaurus.gif

theDreamer 01-27-2010 12:28 PM

Only thing I hate about these "announcements" from Apple is they go over some stupid sh*t, and the meat of what people care about is somewhat glazed on. Hardware, connections (wifi/3G), cost, etc.

DIGItonium 01-27-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 376682)

But wait, there's more! The next best thing to Apple's U2 Special Edition iPod will be the Mr. T Special Edition iPad: "iPity The Fool!"

Haha... sorry can't help myself. :stirthepot:

theDreamer 01-27-2010 12:35 PM

Look at that, 20-30 minutes on random sh*t on the device, and 2-4 minutes on the hardware and other specs...WTF?

DIGItonium 01-27-2010 12:37 PM

I'm surprised tablets are making a comeback.

The iPad looks interesting... just can't get over that big bezel. It's nice and thin, though. I didn't catch what display technology is used. OLED would make it so thin and light.

Horseface 01-27-2010 12:39 PM

Not excited, really. I thought the screen would somehow be active/passive so it wouldn't need a glaring backlight for reading.

Maybe it will hook up to Logic or FCP like a nice remote control surface. That would be cool.

theDreamer 01-27-2010 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 376700)
I'm surprised tablets are making a comeback.

The iPad looks interesting... just can't get over that big bezel. It's nice and thin, though. I didn't catch what display technology is used. OLED would make it so thin and light.

9.7" IPS display, problem is Apple wants this device to probably price nicely so OLED would have shot it up a few hundred bucks and the average consumer will not notice the better tech. Probably two years from now we will see an OLED screen.

I think the term tablet will change soon, it will mean multiple things, not just laptops with no keyboard.

theDreamer 01-27-2010 12:44 PM

So far I am extremely bored of this device already and basically everything I thought it might have is missing. Maybe the hacker community will unlock the secrets of this device, but so far I am out on buying it.

Edit: Actually I am not surprised, because I would almost put money on it that version 2 will be what every thought it would have been thus making version 1 buyers upgrade (they may even wait for #3).

DIGItonium 01-27-2010 12:52 PM

Hehe yea... just look at the evolution of the 1G Touch and iPhone. I can only imagine what sort of software and hardware bugs we'll find. I'd like to see what the 4G iPhone and Touch has to offer in the near future... man, I still don't have much interest. However, I'm growing tired of lack of games or anything decent for WinMo.

[OT]
My current phone is an Xperia X1 with custom ROM, and I've only had it for a few months. I like everything about it, but it'll be nice to have capacitive touch, accelerometer, and a better processor. A few people are working on Android, so it's quite fun to mess with this stuff.
[/OT]

theDreamer 01-27-2010 12:54 PM

I am done with WinMo, I do not want to jump back to the iPhone but with 4.0 firmware this year I might end up having to, and also because Android & AT&T are not playing nice yet (this summer hopefully).

Well one thing I like, you can watch live MLB on the iPad, if they can get NFL, college football and basketball (though I do not for BB) it would definitely sell on that alone.

Horseface 01-27-2010 01:07 PM

It just needs some killer apps written by 3rd party developers. I wish they had sorted out the screen for reading. Reading from a screen just isn't as good as the printed word.

FuszNissan 01-27-2010 01:09 PM

I can't wait to buy one.

theDreamer 01-27-2010 01:13 PM

WTF???
Hmmm....finally a plus for them.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....362-rm-eng.jpg

theDreamer 01-27-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 376735)
I can't wait to buy one.

:shakes head:
Well that is about it, you can check out engadget or gizmodo for all the highlights and such. Overall the device is basically a large iPod touch, new features are already on the basic iPod but are just now easier to use.

fairladyZ34 01-27-2010 02:18 PM

seems like a big iTouch that will in time make its way into more and more consumer households. but as of now i think i can enjoy my cell to call/text, my iPod for portable music and my laptop as portable computing. i can see the iPad being immediately useful for those that travel often or dont have a laptop that dont need a traditional OS where you can install your own programs. The iPad is pretty much a multimedia tablet so im not sure how the business enterprise apps may take to this. only time and a price cut will tell

bigaudiofanat 01-27-2010 02:56 PM

A few things about this. Being a apple users I will say that I enjoy apple's products.

However

Corny Name

Tad Expensive

Expected more out of the interface but than again it could be more than what I am thinking.

I doubt it has much REAL use.

Yes even me being a apple user and lover I still will say this is probably not one of their best products.

nuTinmuch 01-27-2010 04:02 PM

hahahahahahhha

http://i.gizmodo.com/5458382/8-thing...about-the-ipad

my feelings.

elmz 01-27-2010 04:18 PM

It's Berk HFC's or the iPad....I think I'll get the iPad...

theDreamer 01-27-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 377023)
It's Berk HFC's or the iPad....I think I'll get the iPad...

:shakes head:

elmz 01-27-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 377024)
:shakes head:

You're right, I should wait till gen 2. Things should improve and hopefully jailbroken by then.

I will admit I was hoping for some more functionality rather than a giant iTouch. Here is what I was expecting....

YouTube - Microsoft "Courier" secret tablet

theDreamer 01-27-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 377029)
You're right, I should wait till gen 2. Things should improve and hopefully jailbroken by then.

I will admit I was hoping for some more functionality rather than a giant iTouch. Here is what I was expecting....

YouTube - Microsoft "Courier" secret tablet

I learned with early Apple tech and very largely with the iPhone about Apple's business view towards customer. They know largely people are willing to jump on first run of an item and then implement solid upgrades in version two. So I will wait, but will probably be going an Android phone this summer and keeping my netbook.

vipor 01-27-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 377029)
You're right, I should wait till gen 2. Things should improve and hopefully jailbroken by then.

I will admit I was hoping for some more functionality rather than a giant iTouch. Here is what I was expecting....

YouTube - Microsoft "Courier" secret tablet

that's pretty cool actually.

it's so much easier for M$ to copy and expand on Apple rather than worry about having an "original idea" :stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot: :stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot:

elmz 01-27-2010 04:47 PM

I'm a sucker for the latest and greatest technology. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I don't even need the iPad I already have a Mac Book Pro and an iPhone, but this thing is NEAT!

yubman 01-27-2010 04:51 PM

No Adobe Flash support
No expansion (can't add additional storage)
No camera
No USB support

I think I'll wait for version 2.0

theDreamer 04-03-2010 10:28 AM

Well it has officially launched and reviews are coming in.
Some new or iPad only apps that seem to be hitting the usage of the iPad correctly: Gizmodo's Essential iPad Apps - Best ipad apps - Gizmodo
The review: Apple iPad review -- Engadget

I have not bought one yet, nor will I probably the first year. Though my view of how this device is going to work has changed the past month with what seems to be a flood of new apps by unknown developers. You have companies like ABC, NBC, Hulu, Netflix, NYT, USA Today, etc. all writing real applications for this device. Not just you can get bits and pieces of info, but actual full articles, real streaming (Netflix, ABC, etc.). The device might well take on eReaders very well, and being full color versus traditional eReaders is a huge plus. Downside is still the screen choice and the unknown that eye strain may become a huge issue.

No Adobe Flash support - Seems the usage of the web browsing is going away with dedicated applications. Will this ultimately work? I think so, but with Google & Microsoft & Adobe all teaming up we might see a huge split in the mobile web browsing.
No expansion (can't add additional storage) - This does suck, but having 16-64GB is plenty of space.
No camera - I was in the same boat as this when I first saw the device, but not sure it matters 100% now. I would love the ability to for video conferecing (front facing camera), and this is a reason I will be waiting for Gen II.
No USB support - This one will probably never happen. :( My hope is that with at least Gen II we might get some form of video out that is simple and easy to use. But Apple is so bent on using 30 pin connections for everything it might just not happen.

Not pointing at you directly yubman, just using some of your points as those were issues I had with the device. Though it seems my view on this product is going away from a mobile device to more of a home/travel device. For home it will be great access to news and media (can lose paper media), and for travel it will work perfectly for viewing videos & movies instead of a tiny iPod touch or my Archos 5.

MightyBobo 04-03-2010 12:46 PM

Oh, how the media is so misleading...

As per CNN:

"Anecdotal reports suggested strong initial consumer interest in the device, which went on sale Saturday morning. At Apple's flagship store on Fifth Avenue in New York, hundreds of shoppers -- many of whom had camped out overnight -- were in line when the doors opened at 9 a.m."

First iPad buyers excited, curious - CNN.com

Engadget:

"We just landed at Apple's 5th avenue flagship, "The Cube," and it's... a little bare. We count less than 15 people in line at this point (still headed by the inimitable Greg Packer), and most of them actually have pre-orders. Despite the minimal line situation, Apple has a huge section of The Cube's plaza cordoned off to make room for more, and the NYPD is here with barriers galore, ready to lay down the law. We're told the lines will be split between pre-orderers and non-pre-orderers at 6:30PM, at which point the scene will look truly pitiful. Presumably the crowd will grow later tonight and swell early next morning, as those pre-orderers with nothing to worry about shuffle in, breakfast in their bellies. Or maybe everyone just went to the beach for the weekend."

iPad line watch: the few, the proud? (updating, Woz on deck!) -- Engadget

Talk about trying to push an overhyped product - its obvious the fanboi's are out in force, and thats about it.

theDreamer 04-03-2010 01:12 PM

Yeah, I think initial sales should be around 75-100k between pre-orders and walkins. Not even close to what the original or later iPhones or Motorola Droid have done opening day.

JACKPAC 04-03-2010 01:29 PM

If you already have an Iphone, or any smart phone for that matter, what's the point in this?

theDreamer 04-03-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JACKPAC (Post 479035)
If you already have an Iphone, or any smart phone for that matter, what's the point in this?

Currently not much, but my hope is this will complement a smartphone better than a netbook can be.
A smartphone is great for getting quick emails, web browsing and time killing. Though a smart phone fails at taking it to the next level, deeper details, more options, etc. Not saying the iPad has achieved this, but I think it can be a proper step towards what I personally want.

My list:
~Good magazine, newspaper device (eReader was at the top but extremely limited)
~Better email support, richer environment
~Google Voice - currently with anything apple I will have to use the web interface or jailbreak the device
~Remote desktop functionality
~Video streaming (Netflix, Hulu, etc.)
~Video out
~Not 4:3 ratio screen (16:9 would be better)

I have more but you get the idea. I am not looking for a larger iPhone, but a table that is an extension of my desktop & phone. Archos almost had what I wanted at one point but they scrapped it and are starting over with Android, which I think will be better in the end as Google will be supporting the OS and Archos can focus on hardware.

SlikNik 04-03-2010 02:11 PM

this is pretty funny
YouTube - "Too Late, Windows 7" - OneRepublic feat. Timbaland - "Apologize" Parody

theDreamer 04-03-2010 02:14 PM

And that has what to do with this thread?
No offense, but there are other threads talking about Windows v. OS X, keep it on topic about the iPad.

SlikNik 04-03-2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 479078)
And that has what to do with this thread?
No offense, but there are other threads talking about Windows v. OS X, keep it on topic about the iPad.

sorry dude, just posted it up quickly without reading much of the thread. I saw the Apple headline and jumped the gun.


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