Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 4038825)

Very alive and doing great… I have even been featured now in two different medical publications. The Docs are surprised at how well I am.

Other than being “totally tubular” and sounding a little deranged when I speak, I am better than I was for the last 30 years

😎👍

Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 4038828)

My son-in-law has a JT that he is enjoying as well.

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4038841)

Been to the dealership twice this week for a new tire for the Rouge. 2nd time there has been absolutely no one looking in the showroom. The place is a ghost town. I was waiting for a piece of tumble weed to blow through...

Since I had some time to kill I starting window shopping. These clowns are still charging a "market adjustment" of 3 to $6000. A pathfinder with a sticker of $45,000 was going for $51,000!

A maxima was going for $50,000!

I asked what they'd take for the maxima. Best out the door price. Hey told me $49,500.

These dealers are putting themselves out of business. Greed kills!

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4038841)

Been to the dealership twice this week for a new tire for the Rouge. 2nd time there has been absolutely no one looking in the showroom. The place is a ghost town. I was waiting for a piece of tumble weed to blow through...

Since I had some time to kill I starting window shopping. These clowns are still charging a "market adjustment" of 3 to $6000. A pathfinder with a sticker of $45,000 was going for $51,000!

A maxima was going for $50,000!

I asked what they'd take for the maxima. Best out the door price. Hey told me $49,500.

These dealers are putting themselves out of business. Greed kills!

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038842)

The market has abruptly shifted in terms of cost, price, and the value of money, and COVID was a major factor in addition to inflation. Before COVID, the pricing norm went up slowly and incrementally compared to what happened in the past couple of years. $1 say 3 years ago is probably equivalent to close to $.60 to $.70 today, whereas this kind of shift 20 years ago took more time. Maxima's in the $50K range is unfortunately the new norm. Who would have thought the base Z would start close to $70K? :gtfo2:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/02/cars/...-dg/index.html

"This is one of the worst times to buy a car in decades."

Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4038846)

thats gotta be with market adjustment bs, im on nissan's website right now and they're about $41,000

still f'n crazy.

Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4038844)

wowwwww

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I would have laughed in his/her face.

Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4038849)

ohh, forgot to mention, for well qualified buyers, 7.65% interest rate... :eek::eek: ouch! and if you decide to lease (which I would never do personally).. you get 10,000 miles per year.. :eek::eek:

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4038852)

I was too speechless to even laugh. :eek:

Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4038849)

ohh, forgot to mention, for well qualified buyers, 7.65% interest rate... :eek::eek: ouch! and if you decide to lease (which I would never do personally).. you get 10,000 miles per year.. :eek::eek:

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038850)

What the website says and what the individual dealers are charging are two different stories.

And yes, close to $70K. I saw one in person at a dealer a few months back, and it was listed at $66K.

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4038856)

Yup. Leased the Rouge. $45,000 vehicle. $4000 down, 18 months 15,000 miles. $535 a month. 12,000 a year mileage was an extra $80 a month. one of the main reasons went with it is because they blew me away with what they gave me on the Z. At this rate the Rogue is going to sit for the last two months of the lease to keep it under the mileage.

Wife loves it so far, but I think I’m going with a Mazda CX5 next year. Lots more bang for the buck.

Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4038858)

yeah that mileage sh1t is for the birds, although I dont think I've ever averaged 12k miles a year, but i guess thats the average for most folks.

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038842)

The market has abruptly shifted in terms of cost, price, and the value of money, and COVID was a major factor in addition to inflation. Before COVID, the pricing norm went up slowly and incrementally compared to what happened in the past couple of years. $1 say 3 years ago is probably equivalent to close to $.60 to $.70 today, whereas this kind of shift 20 years ago took more time. Maxima's in the $50K range is unfortunately the new norm. Who would have thought the base Z would start close to $70K? :gtfo2:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/02/cars/...-dg/index.html

"This is one of the worst times to buy a car in decades."

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038853)

https://www.fox13news.com/news/gen-z...-challenge-you

"Gen Z hardest generation to work with, according to survey: ‘They lack discipline‘ and 'like to challenge you’."

"A number of managers also agreed that Gen Z workers lack communication skills, effort, motivation and even technological skills."

:icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18: How?? I thought they would be the most technologically advanced?

"And one of the top reasons that GenZers are being canned from their jobs, according to the April survey, is that they are 'too easily offended.'"

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

"Of respondents who say Gen Z is the most difficult generation to work with, 34% say they prefer to work with Millennials, 30% with Gen X, and 4% with Baby Boomers," the survey concluded.

:rock::rock::rock::rock: Good job Millennials! We rock!

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038855)

10 years from now, we will all look back at this post and say "Holy sh!t that was a good deal!"

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038861)

Randomly got a call for a interview I applied at a company months ago. I will be sure to emphasize I am a Millennial.

No gym and no McD's tonight in preparation for interview.

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038861)

Randomly got a call for a interview I applied at a company months ago. I will be sure to emphasize I am a Millennial.

No gym and no McD's tonight in preparation for interview.

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038854)

People complain about 8% home and car loans. Interest rates say in the 80's/90's was close to 20% for homes loans and near 15% for car loans. And mind you, incomes were much lower then compared to now, even with inflation factored in.

Originally Posted by JNews86 (Post 4038867)

My new alarm gonna have me waking up swinging

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ejDeq1qS6es

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4038863)

None of this is going to matter once the Dims take your cash and give you their digital currency.

It’s their money and they despise us for not giving it to them. They hate the fact that we spend it as we see fit. Another day, another step closer to a Communist Country.

Thankfully I’ll be dead and buried before these clowns that voted for Brandon get into power.
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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038826)

https://en.paperblog.com/congratulat...0s-80s-318129/

"CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE KIDS WHO WERE BORN in the ’60s ’70s & ’80s

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a tin and didn’t get tested for diabetes.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitch-hiking .

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a van – loose – was always great fun.We drank water from the garden hosepipe and NOT from a bottle. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this. We ate cakes, white bread and real butter and drank pop with sugar in it,but we weren’t overweight because……WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!!In the summer we would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.
No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K
We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem .

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo’s, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, no cell phones, no text messaging, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms……….WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We played with worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

Made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not poke out any eyes.We rode bikes or walked to a friend’s house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them!
Local teams had try-outs and not everyone made the team. Those who didn’t had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!"

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4038864)

Capitalist don’t recognize being a “Tic Tock influencer” as a valid means of earning a living.

Social Media will be the downfall of this once great Country.

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4038865)

My fist car loan in 1981 was 30%. No joke! That was when we thought Carter was the worst President in history. Brandon said, hold my beer.

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4038878)

Born in the mid 50's. We had BB gun battles. Played football in a graveyard. Soaped the windows on a police car with the local cop in it, one Halloween. Mom's didn't about you unless the blood was squinting,. Broken bones, your arm or leg had to be at a right angle before you went to the hospital. If you cussed. you got your mouth washed out with soap. You always said, Thank You, and Excuse me.

Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 4038879)

mr. vtec, you watching the nfl draft?

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038883)

Nope, taking a break from interview prepping, and back to it in a few minutes. This is 1 company I reaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy want to get hired with.

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 4038881)

Granted prices were lower back then, but still makes me wonder how stuff was affordable back then. Higher rates and incomes where significantly lower, even with taking inflation into factor.

Imagine 20 years from now, where car monthly payments will be $3k and that's on the low end and poverty level is $200K/annual.

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4038869)

Imagine sleeping next to that thing?