Assuming your being serious and not kidding. Sometimes hard to infer from text vs in person talking…

This /\ is the real tragedy of the “post truth” world we live in now. Common binding ideas, facts, beliefs have been replaced with believe whatever crazy bullsh1t I want and I can go on the web and find other people to support me and agree and read compelling if still wrong rationalizations to make me feel better about myself. And many people have made a lot of money and careers feeding the conspiracy theory post truth alternative facts ecosystem.

Some examples of this is the rise in climate change denialism and the gender fluid/trans movement. Let’s break it down a bit for both examples bc they’re symptomatic of the same problem.

Climate change deniers: in the 70s the leading nasa and noaa and climate scientists were warning of a coming cool down or new ice age. This was bc at that time, the best scientific understanding was as we keep adding particulate pollution into the atmosphere we’re gonna reduce sunlight which would have a cooling effect. That’s valid and actually still true.

Then with better emissions regulations and cleaning up pier plants etc, less particulate pollution is going up into the sky. Additionally, we now know the co2 and methane emissions don’t block the incoming sunlight but they do trap heat inside the atmosphere thereby creating, you guessed it, a warming effect, hence the term global warming.

It’s referred to as climate change bc as global temp rise, this isn’t uniformly distributed across the world. Also, if the northern tier gets on average a few degrees warmer, then instead of bitter cold and less snow, you get still bitter cold but just warm and wet enough for. Shitton more snow. In other words, some areas get hotter and dryer, some areas become more prone to flooding and rain events and snow. The southeast is getting hotter and a bit drier, the northeast is getting a bit hotter and wetter which means more snow in winter, same with northern tier. The southwest is getting hotter and drier.

Remember you take averages so just cause we’re warming doesn’t mean no more cold snaps etc.

The rising temps also mean global weather patterns and winds are shifting and changing. This can lead to more unpredictable severe weather like tornadoes, flash floods etc. for Florida, we really see the effects of climate change acutely. Compared to 15-20 years ago we are averaging 5-10 degrees above normal in dry season, and 3-5 degrees warmer in wet season. Doesn’t sound like much but it’s miserable. Hurricanes are now dumping more water for longer when they hit bc the oceans are warmer and that is hurricane fuel.

Scientists use among other tools arctic and Antarctic ice cores that can show us temps and carbon in our atmosphere going back hundreds of millions of years. Since the 1800s and the industrial revolution, carbon emissions and global temp have risen faster than any time in history except the early dinosaur period, (cretatious iiirc). Back then it was bc of massive numbers of volcanoes causing what we are doing bc of emissions.

We act like immature children that don’t want to take responsibility for our actions. I’m a free market capitalist, the industrial revolution and fossil fuels are the greatest achievement of mankind and we built our amazing society on the back of fossil fuel but it’s time to acknowledge that everything has consequences and it’s time to revolutionize our society and move to cleaner energy.

Ok, now onto the transgender gender identity example of post truth world bs.

Scientifically, there are only two biological sexes, and society expresses biological male and female as men and women. Gender is the social expression of biological sex. Men have penises and women have vaginas. More specifically, males produce sperm and females produce eggs which are fertilized by said sperm. (Hard to believe I’m rehashing basic sex Ed but here we are)

All animals on this planet that are even somewhat advanced are like this. There are worms that can change from male to female and vice versa and basic organisms reproduce differently like bacteria and virus but since humans can’t go from producing sperm to producing eggs, we don’t fall in this category.

If someone is gay, there is a wiring issue going on in their brain, this happens to other species in nature as well but it’s not “normal” bc if it was, we wouldn’t be here.

If someone is transgender, that is a psychiatric disorder known as gender dysphoria. It might be caused by incorrect hormone bath of the fetus in the womb, maybe, brain wiring, maybe sexual or psychological abuse or maybe some combo of the above.

As a quick aside, I personally believe that the increased toxins in our environment over the last 100 years, many of which are estrogen receptor positive and mimic estrogen in the body is related to the rise in trans and perhaps gay people. Our males testosterone levels are 50% of what our grandfather and great grandfathers were on average. Women hit puberty on average 2years sooner than they did 50 years ago and boys are less masculine than in the past. Our plastics and **** chemicals in our food and water are contributing to lower fertility and possibly increased transgender population. Again, just my opinion but I believe m right on this.

So VtV, keep on eating those McYoked post workout meals filled with chemicals out the wazoo, I’ll be sure to pick up a sexy mini skirt for ya when you’re ready. :yum::yum:

Ok, back to serious discussion…

Current gender theory says gender is fluid and transgender is normal. Scientifically and biologically, it’s not, male is male and female is female based on the biological criteria I listed above.

NOW, and I want to be crystal clear on this point:

NO ONE should be discriminated against bc of sexual orientation or gender identity and the right to life liberty and the persuit of happiness should apply equally fairly and justly to ALL Americans and human rights to all people around the world.

BUT, we can’t ignore scientific facts either, as a moderate libertarian, I believe strongly there is a happy medium here and it’s as follows:

1. Pronouns. Let’s use common sense but also respect. If you are transgender, prior to transitioning, your pronouns should match your biological sex. Once you’ve transitioned to the point your presenting as the opposite gender, then out of respect, we should address that person by the pronouns of their gender identity. Ie, a trans woman who presents as a woman is she/her.

1a. They/them are plural pronouns and are bullsh1t to refer to an individual as. Gender fluid folks are also psychologically disturbed and can’t commit to a side. Which is fine, but then the appropriate pronouns are the ones that match your biological sex.

2. Bathrooms. Again, common sense and respect. A trans woman pre transition uses the mens bathroom, a trans woman after a certain point in transitioning or post transition uses the womens bathroom. Womens bathroom are all private/semi private stallls, there’s no issue here. Don’t confuse transgender and sexual predator. They are NOT related.

3. Locker rooms. Trans people should have a separate private locker room bc it could be uncomfortable and unfair to women to see a biological male naked in their shower or changing areas.

4. Sports. Again common sense. Men vs men and women vs women. Trans people can compete in gender open leagues where men and women are already on the same team or they can create and compete in trans specific leagues.

Remember, transgender is a medical mental condition. It would be like a guy in a wheelchair demanding he play basketball on the regular basketball team, it makes no sense and we shouldn’t change the world for that one guy. However, creating a wheelchair basketball league is a great positive answer.

We wouldn’t eliminate stairs into a building so as not to offend cripples and force everyone to use ramps, BUT adding wheelchair ramps to a building is the right way to respect and provide opportunities for disabled folks while not negatively impacting everyone else.

For too long conservatives marginalized and defamed and discriminated against gay and especially trans peoples. There has been an over correcting in some aspects of society for sure, but demonizing people and associating them with pedophiles and sex predators is just wrong. Again, we need to address this just like climate change from a common sense scientific facts based approach without emotional malice towards others even if they make you uncomfortable.

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You bring very valid points to the table, crazy but in today's society, many would interpret these facts as hate speech of sort.
Biology doesn't care about your emotions or prejudice or anything else. There's X and Y chromosomes. There are diseases. There is evolution, i.e. survival of the fittest. Not strongest, not best, not smartest, but *fittest*. That is to say - if a meteor hits the planet, you want to be a shrew that can hide and survive of crumbs, you don't want to be a huge dinosaur.
So if you (unfortunately) feel like a woman, but you have Y chromosome, as well as a penis, testicles, a prostate which can get cancer, etc. - then yeah, you're not a woman. We can try to fix you up, but you'll never menstruate, you'll never have a baby inside you and you will probably not get ostheoporosis but prostate cancer.

If you're gay, I respect you, even feel sorry that it's unlikely that you'll pass your genes to the next generation as unfortunately you need opposite sexes to reproduce, at least if you're of homo sapiens species.

I'd add this part. If we have laws to prohibit kids from drinking, driving, bearing arms, getting tattoos, and similar life altering stuff, etc until they're 18 (excluding usa here), all because we deem them immature and not old enough....then MAYBE it also doesn't make sense to allow them to use hormone therapy or similar as teenagers, just because it's currently popular to be one of 143 genders. Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't let these kids make these crazy decisions, but let them grow up and inform them of implications and consequences.

And yeah. Please stop with the transphobic ********. Nobody is afraid of trans people nor does anyone have a phobia of them. I like my women without a penis, and if someone's trans, I'll gladly point them to a reliable therapist to help them sort out the chemistry in their brain, instead of taking a knife to the crotch thinking they'll magically cheat nature.

On transgendered kids. It's ok for kids to get the surgery without parents approval in some states. But they have to be 21 to buy cigarettes. 18 for the military. 18 to buy a long gun, 21 for a pistol. 21 to vote. So why allow them to get the surgery that will change them for life.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flo...atments-minors

"Florida Senate passes DeSantis-backed bill banning transgender treatments for minors."

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This isn’t about discrimination or making people feel uncomfortable. This is about which gender you are biologically. As I’ve stated before, just because you can change your gender legally and anatomically does NOT change it biologically. YOU CANNOT CHANGE SCIENCE. It’s not discrimination if I address you as the natural-born gender you are biologically. Sure, they may get butthurt over me not addressing them as to the gender which they claim to be, but I’m not going to pretend that men are women and women are men. Just as they have a right to claim the gender of their choice, I have the right to reject their beliefs and the right to deny calling them whatever pronoun they request.

Not gonna lie. I skimmed through your last couple posts due to their lengths.

Sports: If you are transgender and playing where both teams are unisex, that’s one thing. But, for example, if you are a biological male playing on an all-women’s team, no, :gtfo2:

Remember, science does NOT recognize nor is there a so-called “gay gene”.

What about pets? :icon17:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/20/homes...les/index.html

“Homes sales fell in March, reversing gains.”

“Annually, sales were down 22% from a year ago and the seasonally adjusted annualized sales pace dropped from 5.69 million units a year ago to 4.44 million in March.”

Just as I mentioned before on home prices, where prices have come down, BUT they are still higher than pre-pandemic levels due to the surge in price during COVID from low rates, this is the same concept for the number of applicants. With very low rates, mortgage apps surged and started coming down as rates went up, but I would conclude this number would be the same/higher than pre-pandemic levels.

The media is reporting less mortgage apps and less qualified buyers. If home buyers only qualify if rates are in the 2% range and otherwise don’t qualify, then they are NOT true qualified buyers. A 2% range rate is NOT a realistic/normal rate. And buyers that are qualified for less are NOT qualified for less, but rather the amount they normally should qualify for anyway. In the early 1980s, rates were in the 15-19% range. Incomes have significantly grown since (and yes, I understand inflation has gone up since too), but buyers are complaining about the 5-8% range?

“Inventory remains stubbornly low, said Yun, but it is improving some.”

Um, we are about 15 years behind on building since the housing market crash. With rates rising, builders are less likely to take out construction loans to build if the sales data does not justify it.

“Many potential sellers feel “locked in” by their ultra-low existing mortgage rates that they bought or refinanced into over the past few years.”

This is another issue that many sellers will face and will add to the shortage issue. Homeowners with the 2% range rates are unlikely to sell and upgrade because of payment shock from the rate they will get for their next home. That and the likelihood they would qualify for less of a loan amount with the increased rates.

In regards to the CSC/MC lawsuit, anyone know what's going on with it?

NGUYEN V.NISSAN NORTH AMERICA

I read the entire document and at the end it states, but haven't seen any updates:

"Plaintiff’s theory of liability—that Nissan’s manufacture and concealment of a defective clutch system injured class members at the time of sale—is consistent with his proposed recovery based on the benefit of the bargain. We conclude that the district court abused its discretion when it denied class certification based on a misconception of Plaintiff’s legal theory. We therefore REVERSE the district court’s denial of class certification and REMAND for further proceedings."

I actually read them all, and me personally, I thought he brought up a several valid points, and really just common sense.

I would encourage you to read through them.

Biology > "common sense"

I will not pretend that men are women and women are men.

I mean, if they don't accept themselves for who they are, why should I? :confused:

I'm not sure about this. Because let's say there isn't a gay gene...it would imply that someone becomes gay through either adoption or out of curiosity. But that being said, regardless of my curiosity or exposure to gays, I don't have any interest in them. Thanks, but no thanks.

Equally, if there IS a gay gene...to me it would actually explain so many examples of my friends who simply ARE different. Cool regular dudes, but who do have some particular habits/interests/characteristics, that do imply they're a bit different, and sure enough, they're gay. I wouldn't say they are gay out of pure boredom. Maybe they're just wired differently, and that's fine by me.

It's the "you can change your gender" idea that I find crazy harmful for people. Not only that you actually CAN'T change your gender, but you're not resolving any issues. You will be a mutilated person. You will not have functioning organs, fact. You will fall into a super tiny niche where people will not be attracted to you and you *will* be alone. As you grow old, you will be more on more back what you are naturally and you will eventually go depressed and kill yourself. Sad but that's the very likely scenario. It will be more and more obvious with years to come.
Helping these people isn't putting them on the operating table and shoving them full of hormones. It's talking to them and trying to medicate them to align their brain chemistry with their body. Maybe, MAYBE one day you may be able to solve it surgically....but I honestly doubt that's gonna happen within the next 20-30 years. Can't fool nature.

:iagree: Exactly, you can't change biology.

I am not denying their humanity. I am denying and rejecting their beliefs, which they are entitled to, but I personally won't be buying into it.

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If someone wants to have their beliefs, that's fine. But they can't modify basic biology because it threatens their subjective sense of what they are in terms of gender. You can't biologically change your gender. You can't biologically change your sex. Therefore, I will not pretend that men are women and vice versa.

^that's fine, I think we all agree. But I'm just curious about gays, since it's regarding sexual preference. Do you think people CHOOSE what they're attracted to?

your insight is always uplifting, thank you good sir.

IMO, I don't know if someone can choose to be attracted to someone/something. I feel like it's an involuntary event. For example, I think Dwayne Johnson is a good looking dude, but that doesn't make me homo. Or the new Z, I personally think it's @$$-ugly, but there are others that like it.

nope, you're spot on about the new Z, its ugly as fvck. :icon17:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/20/busin...zes/index.html

"CEO apologizes after ‘pity city’ speech backfires."

“I feel terrible that my rallying cry seemed insensitive,” wrote Andi Owen, chief executive of office furniture giant MillerKnoll, in an email to staff Tuesday. “What I’d hoped would energize the team to meet a challenge we’ve met many times before landed in a way that I did not intend and for that I am sorry.”

Back-peddling. This b!tch knew what she said and meant what she said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/20/tech/...ert/index.html

"Florida apologizes for sending emergency alert test at 4:45 a.m."

Luckily on iPhones, you can turn this feature off, which I always do on all phones as soon as I set it up.

I'm asking because I think I may have misunderstood your points above regarding gays. I do make a distinction here between them and trans folks for a simple reason. If two dudes are gay, they do whatever they want - I don't see them hurting anyone. In fact, those two may have a more stable and normal relationship than normal couples.

However, having a completely unrealistic picture of yourself and of your organism, as well as having the need for others to refer to you in a special way...there I think we're crossing into the weird waters. That was my point. I don't think gays have anything to do with beliefs, as you referred to earlier.

I didn't mention anything about gays :confused: Only thing I mentioned was in response to someone else's post(s) and saying there is no such thing as a "gay gene".

My posts were in reference to gender identity issues.

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definitely got that sh1t this morning.. :mad:

This is right up your alley with the Golden Rule. You get alot more with sugar than salt.

I've always turned these off. I don't pay attention to them and even if I did read it, I'm not going to remember it.

BTW, do the alerts come through even if you silence your phone?

im all about the golden rule my friend..

dude, i had my phone on "do not disturb" from 1130 to 7, and it definitely got through.

To get votes, of course! Same reason they’ve opened our borders.

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Fox News talking points I see..

Yep. The illegals coming across the boarder are future democraps. That's why there is a push to allow them to vote. When they register to vote. The person helping them will register them as democrap.

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She was right, should have stood her ground against this bullsh1t cancel culture crap.

Yeah that is what I was interested, I think that a "gay gene" would make sense here, because it would trigger someone to like same sex instead of the opposite, thereby causing homosexuality. I don't think it's something someone learned.

But ok, anyway, beating a dead horse here.