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Rusty 02-15-2021 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3985841)
That didn't have enough power for the demand early morning. The generation plants started tripping offline to save themselves due to too high of a load. They are trying to bring them back online. That is why they are having rolling blackouts. You know this stuff....

Article saying what happened.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/t...-output-report

Rusty 02-15-2021 08:26 PM

Temp is 33F and still raining like a mofo. :eek:

Hotrodz 02-15-2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3985840)
Feel bad for those in Texas with no power. Read that about half the windmills are frozen. :shakes head: That what happens with too much Green. :shakes head:

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3985841)
That didn't have enough power for the demand early morning. The generation plants started tripping offline to save themselves due to too high of a load. They are trying to bring them back online. That is why they are having rolling blackouts. You know this stuff....

Nuclear is the best and simplest fix! Why is America so scared of it?

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Spooler 02-15-2021 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3985846)
Nuclear is the best and simplest fix! Why is America so scared of it?

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I have worked with construction mangers that built nuclear power plants in their previous careers. It is a long process. Rusty may know more than I do. It is 10 to 20 year process with all the red tape. Just nuts.

redondoaveb 02-15-2021 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3985849)
I have worked with construction mangers that built nuclear power plants in their previous careers. It is a long process. Rusty may know more than I do. It is 10 to 20 year process with all the red tape. Just nuts.

Sounds like the process of getting CARB approval on car parts in Commiefornia :rofl2:

Spooler 02-15-2021 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3985850)
Sounds like the process of getting CARB approval on car parts in Commiefornia :rofl2:

It is worse.

old guy 02-15-2021 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3985840)
Feel bad for those in Texas with no power. Read that about half the windmills are frozen. :shakes head: That what happens with too much Green. :shakes head:

This is also why ya can’t depend on electric cars

old guy 02-15-2021 09:45 PM

14* and snowing like a mofo with winds of 25+ mph..... expecting 8-10” of snow by morning

BettyZ 02-15-2021 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3985849)
I have worked with construction mangers that built nuclear power plants in their previous careers. It is a long process. Rusty may know more than I do. It is 10 to 20 year process with all the red tape. Just nuts.

Grandfather is a retired nuc engineer. Before all the red tape and OSHA and "maybe you need a silver suit for this." We figure the radiation made him stronger; he fell off the Grand Teton, broke six bones, and hiked down to the local ER for treatment..

Rusty 02-15-2021 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3985846)
Nuclear is the best and simplest fix! Why is America so scared of it?

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Nuke is the way to go. It's the cheapest per MW produced and the cleanest. Only 3 problems with it.

1. Cost and time to get the permits. 2 to 4 billions dollars and 15 years.

2. Cost 20 billion, and time to build a nuke. 15 to 20 yrs and more than one company to share the cost.

3. What do you do with the waste. Yucca Mountain is the perfect place. But you have "Not in my backyard" people. Then you have to transport it. People are scare chitless over that.

Rusty 02-15-2021 10:28 PM

Nuclear Premature Ejaculator reps. :tiphat:


Does it glow in the dark?

old guy 02-15-2021 11:14 PM

Had to do an airport run tonight and along the way is a solar farm, all of the panels were covered with snow for as far as the eye could see :shakes head: and that was before tonight’s storm had even started :bowrofl:

Rusty 02-15-2021 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by old guy (Post 3985863)
Had to do an airport run tonight and along the way is a solar farm, all of the panels were covered with snow for as far as the eye could see :shakes head: and that was before tonight’s storm had even started :bowrofl:

The problem with solar. The sun has to shine in it. If 1/8 of the panel is covered. You lose 50% of the output of that panel. If 50% is covered. You get maybe get 10 to 15% output. Leaves, snow, dust, bird chit, or anything else blown on to the panel will cause problems. Renewable power depends on nature. Nature is not dependable. Wind turbines operate within a narrow range of wind speeds. Something like 6 to 23 mph. Too slow. Won't make enough power. Too much speed, and they come apart. If you do the math. At around 25 mph. The tip speed of a 90ft long blade is close to the speed of sound. In high winds. They lock the blades to keep from spinning, and turn them to neutral position.

Renewable power also get tax subsidies. They operate at a lose. The subsidies make up the difference. If you eliminate the subsidies. They would all go under within a month. Their cost of MegaWatt is just to high compared to natural gas.

jwick 02-16-2021 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3985867)
The problem with solar. The sun has to shine in it. If 1/8 of the panel is covered. You lose 50% of the output of that panel. If 50% is covered. You get maybe get 10 to 15% output. Leaves, snow, dust, bird chit, or anything else blown on to the panel will cause problems. Renewable power depends on nature. Nature is not dependable. Wind turbines operate within a narrow range of wind speeds. Something like 6 to 23 mph. Too slow. Won't make enough power. Too much speed, and they come apart. If you do the math. At around 25 mph. The tip speed of a 90ft long blade is close to the speed of sound. In high winds. They lock the blades to keep from spinning, and turn them to neutral position.

Renewable power also get tax subsidies. They operate at a lose. The subsidies make up the difference. If you eliminate the subsidies. They would all go under within a month. Their cost of MegaWatt is just to high compared to natural gas.


There you go using logic and facts again. Don’t you know we live in fairy tale land?

Rusty 02-16-2021 12:53 AM

:driving:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-8IgohpMbQ

jchammond 02-16-2021 04:27 AM

T-33 & bout to roll :driving:
You Guy’s have a Great Day :hello:

God-Speed 02-16-2021 05:48 AM

Good Freezing Tuesday Morning All. 7* this morning with a high today of just 27* with a 20% chance of wintry mix. :gtfo2: So once again stay warm campers. :tup: Stay Safe, Stay Positive and Keep Washing Those Hands. :tup:

JLarson 02-16-2021 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3985858)
Nuke is the way to go. It's the cheapest per MW produced and the cleanest. Only 3 problems with it.

1. Cost and time to get the permits. 2 to 4 billions dollars and 15 years.

2. Cost 20 billion, and time to build a nuke. 15 to 20 yrs and more than one company to share the cost.

3. What do you do with the waste. Yucca Mountain is the perfect place. But you have "Not in my backyard" people. Then you have to transport it. People are scare chitless over that.

One of my brothers is a Nuclear Engineer, confirms all you've stated. He said the biggest barrier is overcoming residual fear that people have over another "3 Mile Island" or similar. Most legislation that now makes it so time consuming and expensive came about as a result of fear, as opposed to logic, but I guess that applies to most legislation for everything, not just nuclear.

old guy 02-16-2021 06:28 AM

Saw an article this morning that Jaguar will be all electric by 2025

And another one bites the dust :shakes head:

Rusty 02-16-2021 07:55 AM

:hello:

I'z up. :yawn:

I got to stop staying up late when I'm working. :yawn:

It rained until about 2am here. Temp is 31F with a high of 34F. It's going to drop to 12F tonight. Brrr.

Looking outside. Everything has a coat of ice on it.

FPenvy 02-16-2021 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3985858)
Nuke is the way to go. It's the cheapest per MW produced and the cleanest. Only 3 problems with it.

1. Cost and time to get the permits. 2 to 4 billions dollars and 15 years.

2. Cost 20 billion, and time to build a nuke. 15 to 20 yrs and more than one company to share the cost.

3. What do you do with the waste. Yucca Mountain is the perfect place. But you have "Not in my backyard" people. Then you have to transport it. People are scare chitless over that.

keeps me employed lol

but seriously it is the way to go. clean and safe with new designs.

Hotrodz 02-16-2021 08:26 AM

Happy Nuclear Tuesday, you glow in the dark bumble heads! In my previous life as wildlife biologist me and many of my peers have stated the same facts that Rusty and other have shared and we are not heard by the politicians and those with a green agenda above all other things. I fought tooth and nail to keep windfarms out of my region and was successful. Now there is one small 5 tower farm near town and a large several square miles of windmills between us and Hoover Dam. It is an eye sore and will kill lots of migratory birds along with displacing pronghorn antelope and mule deer that no longer use those areas as part of their home range. I am not a total hater of solar as I think it is fine and should be on the rooftops of homes and businesses in the southwest CA to Texas to as supplemental form of energy. Just as with all thing the red tape of regulation should be streamlined just as the did for vaccines currently. We know more than ever about nuclear energy and how to tame it, use it and deal with waste including recycling or repurposing the waste. Anyway now that we have solved that problem yawl stay warm and keep the right side up and pointed in the right direction. Off to the salt mine to make that bread. Got bills to pay and stuff to buy in my effort to keep the economy going. Be well and have safe and sanitary day!

johnxxx 02-16-2021 08:35 AM

morning errbody! :hello:

Ghostvette 02-16-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3985825)
You still have power? I took a peak, Texas has lots of power outages.

They are doing 'rolling' blackouts here because of the cold. It's -11 here right now... :icon14:

Rusty 02-16-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3985899)
They are doing 'rolling' blackouts here because of the cold. It's -11 here right now... :icon14:

Go Green. Get Screwed.

SouthArk370Z 02-16-2021 10:39 AM

I'm not a NIMBY type person - when I lived in N IL, I could see the dome of Dresden nuclear power plant from my back porch - but nuclear is not very eco-friendly. Mining/refining the materials for the reactors produces a lot of pollution. "Disposing" of the spent material is just an accident waiting to happen; we can't build containment structures that will survive what Mother Nature can dish out over the millennia required for the material to decay.

The only real solution is a lot less consumption of energy. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out how to get usage down.

Ghostvette 02-16-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3985904)

...The only real solution is a lot less consumption of energy. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out how to get usage down.

With the way things are going in Foggy Bottom, we won't have to worry about energy... it's going to be taxed out of existance... or there will be civil war... :icon14:

Because 70M+ people that voted for the Orange guy are evil and must be 're-educated'.... :shakes head:

Why else does the Guard remain in DC?

Rusty 02-16-2021 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3985907)
With the way things are going in Foggy Bottom, we won't have to worry about energy... it's going to be taxed out of existance... or there will be civil war... :icon14:

Because 70M+ people that voted for the Orange guy are evil and must be 're-educated'.... :shakes head:

Why else does the Guard remain in DC?

Ever think that we are acting out the book "1984" in real life. :icon14:

Rusty 02-16-2021 12:26 PM

52 EO's and zero laws passed by congress since taking office. :icon14:. Just like a dictator. Bypassing congress.:shakes head:

Ghostvette 02-16-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3985914)
52 EO's and zero laws passed by congress since taking office. :icon14:. Just like a dictator. Bypassing congress.:shakes head:

De's comin' fer our boom-sticks next.... :roflpuke2:

Spooler 02-16-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3985917)
De's comin' fer our boom-sticks next.... :roflpuke2:

You know they are going to try.

redondoaveb 02-16-2021 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3985914)
52 EO's and zero laws passed by congress since taking office. :icon14:. Just like a dicktator. Bypassing congress.:shakes head:

Fify

Ghostvette 02-16-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3985919)
You know they are going to try.

www.firearmspolicy.org

Ghostvette 02-16-2021 01:53 PM

FPC is my 'go-to' for supporting gun rights, along with GOA. NRA can kick rocks.

FPenvy 02-16-2021 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3985917)
De's comin' fer our boom-sticks next.... :roflpuke2:

HR127

they're trying hard.

wish i lived in Missouri. they already passed a counter to HR127 for their state.

Ghostvette 02-16-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3985928)
HR127

they're trying hard.

wish i lived in Missouri. they already passed a counter to HR127 for their state.

We have one too in Kansas. :tup:

FPenvy 02-16-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3985929)
We have one too in Kansas. :tup:

highly doubt this lovely state will put something in place to stop it.

Rusty 02-16-2021 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3985921)
Fify

:tiphat:

:iagree:

Rusty 02-16-2021 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3985930)
highly doubt this lovely state will put something in place to stop it.

Get dumb chit Wolf out, and get a good red guy in there.

FPenvy 02-16-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3985932)
Get dumb chit Wolf out, and get a good red guy in there.

:iagree:


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