Thanks :D
I expected nothing less from you.

Me a clown? lol. if you knew my background on this topic that'd be laughable. Ive forgotten more about this exact topic and legal statistics, procedures, theory, etc than you could ever "reword" from your google searches .... I never said contesting tickets is unwinnable hence the repeated word "rarely". I gave statistical likelihoods. An issue isnt determined by its extreme outcomes so posting 2 pics does nothing to change the fact that for every 2 that get out free of charge when they were in fact speeding, thousands do not. I dont think that can really be argued so I dont really understand which part of what Im saying you disagree with. Unless theres some place in the US in which high % of people caught speeding contest it and get out of it through a document they found on a free website...

And to those citing studies, it simply doesnt mean much. Studies, even federal ones, dont determine law in this country. Not that the studies arent good info, theyre just not limiting on the lawmakers and get ignored all the time. Studies show all kinds of things and even gov studies can include bias. Is it you want to live life by the gov study bc you feel its just or does the study just go along with your side of the topic so you use it? I guarantee I can find studies from the exact same entities that you dont want to follow...

If you want to change the law, whining about this or that study and calling it bogus for a law enforcer to... enforce the law wont do it. The gov is using this as a way to make money... UMMM yeh and? This is the world we live in. Good luck with avoiding money making "scams" being forced upon you. Id posit that most decisions are made by mostly financial considerations regardless of entity, even your church...

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Cant lie this forum makes me smile lol. Much better than the other car/bike forums I was on. Some amazing builds and such lively people lol. Now if only there were more FI options for these cars...

And I cannot understand why our loop is still 55 mph. You would practically be run off the road for going 55 mph, even in the rightmost lane. If you are in the left lane and not doing at least 70, people become fairly hostile.

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Based on this explanation and dP3NGU1N's I see what you guys are saying.

If the road is comfortable doing 75 - 80 mph (which, our 4 - 6 lane loop sure is, though it's posted 55 mph) then you have some people going 80 mph, and some people going 55 mph, and that's worse than if they just let everyone go 80 mph.

Also on the topic of cell phones and driving as it was brought up - I do not drive distracted, as much as humanly possible. While it may not be illegal to eat and drive or put on makeup and drive, you are still just as much of an ******* as the guy weaving around because he's text messaging and driving or camping in the left lane yakking away on the phone while obliviously pacing the car in the center lane while traffic piles up behind you.

im confused because in PA we have yearly inspection and emissions testing.

State inspections, when done at all, are not very tough - brakes work, horn honks, lights light, &c). Think pre-employment physical at McDonalds.

Inspections done in JP and EU also check for corrosion and a lot of other stuff. More like a pre-employment physical to be an astronaut.

I will agree except most places here are pretty strict unless you know people. PA has some stupid vehicle laws lol

I saw some idiot with a bumper made out of a 2x6. Constantly see cars that really should not be driven on a public road at all let alone going 70+ MPH when I'm on my way to work, with broken shocks/struts/springs or terrible alignment/bushings etc.

I wish we had inspection here at all, even the McDonalds pre-employment physical variety. :shakes head:

Of course generalizations always have exceptions. I meant it in the sense that it's not required federally so that all territories require an annual check. It's optional by state or county depending on their regulations. I live in Cali so I can only speak to the cars here, which only need smog checks after they're older than 5 years. Brake lines leaking? No body cares. Except the person in front of you next time you step on the loud pedal.

However, I recall, when living in London, that you needed one every year and it was fairly extensive. I wasn't old enough to drive at the time so I didn't pay it much mind, but it definitely stood out.

LOL I'm glad you are considering a career with Mcdonalds young lady, now I need to honk your horns before I can hire you! :D

I got to say...I'm kinda proud of this thread I started. Lots of action, interesting information and a few funny low blows.

If anyone still cares... :-| .... I turned in my Trial by Declaration today lol...wish me luck....or burn me at the stake for fighting a ticket.

Since you have to pay your bail money before its gets exonerated back to you if you win...i'll see it as pre-paying for my CAI.

'merica

Cheers

When you win, will you do everyone a favor and post it up so you can shut the clown up?

I have a GREAT idea….Just Pay the ticket like everyone else would that owns Hi-Performance muscle whether it be a 370z, challenger, porsche etc. that would get one…and save the DRAMA and hype for your Parents as they probably would be the only ones that gives 2 *****.

Will do!

If I do win, ill be 4/4 on fighting my ticket (or rather, exercising my rights as a citizen to defend my plea in the United States Judicial System)

No Drama, no hype. Simply STARTED this thread asking if anyone used a ticket dismissal service before and the success rate of it...which is the purpose of these forums.

You clearly gave at least 1% of a **** because you decided to post something :stirthepot:

And can't we just have fun bullsh^tting this topic like all car people do. Geez, everyone gets so pissed so quick lol.

Lastly, anyone with a sports car is more prone to speeding which means more tickets which means only 1 traffic school per 18 months... so you "need" to fight tickets to save up on traffic school (obvious argument is don't speed...) but lets face it... how many people in this forum don't go a few clicks over the speed limit...

Maybe we should have this debate in a Chrysler Town and Country Minivan Forum.. SOCCER MOMS unite!!!!

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time (or pay the fine). Sure, driving fast in a 370Z is a LOT of fun - that's why we buy them ... but you have to do it responsibly. I like shooting guns but I don't do it in my backyard; I go to a place that is safe and the noise won't bother the neighbors. When I want to drive above the speed limit, I find the less-traveled road, make a pass or two to be sure the road is clear, and then have some fun.