Small reward to help me get my money back from GTM.
 

Hello fellow Z family, my name is Andy, so as most of you already know about a year and a half ago, I purchased a MHI group buy tt kit. I still have not received a refund for the money I paid Sam for the kit. I have tried everything, paypal said sorry and go f@$! your self and so did my bank, then I waited for Sam to deliver but to no surprise (I know, flame suit on) never did. But now GTM doesn't answer my calls, I am pretty sure they are screening them, I've tried every number. So I finally filed a small claims case against Sam. It's going to suck because I am not made of money and taking the days off is going to hurt let alone the trip from Florida to California. So I was wondering if anyone would like a small reward if you can get Sam to send me my refund before the court hearing and save the trip. Maybe like $500 or maybe I buy you some parts? I really need the money to buy my little brother a car to get to school in. Contact me @ nine five four-six eight two-two eight zero six at any time thank you.

Sorry mods, please move to appropriate section if I am violating any rules or spread it to all sections to help get the word out, thank you.

goodluck. GTM ran what was essentially a ponzi scheme. sorry that i cant help!

reaaallly long thread about it here: http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ver-years.html

The easiest and most effective way would be to Google his address. Leave your cell phone at home and make a drive with some friends.

With that said,
You may NEVER get your money back legally and he may NEVER suffer any consequences from that. Murica.

Trust me I know all about the reflections thread, the idea is for someone local to go to his shop and keep bothering the sh!t out of him till he pays up. If he was local to me, it would be a whole different ball game....

I like the way you think!

I would go see the guy in person, and let him know how much I wanted my money back, as I dont appreciate being robbed. He would have seen my point...I assure you. That being said, why not try and get your attorney to get the other people in on the case. Sadly I dont think this is a class action matter as the money in question is probably not enough. Makes me sad to be a human sometimes.

Unfortunately courts may award you the funds but they don't collect them for you. Even if you win you may still not get your money.

He can petition a court ordered levy on GTM's bank accounts for the amount GTM owed to him. It may take a while plus additional court fees but not all hopes are lost.

Is this guy in witness protection or something? With all these horror stories I'm reading about GTM, you'd think someone would have found him by now. If someone cheated me out of $1000s of dollars and I knew who it was, you better believe I'd be taking some PTO time from work to pay him a visit.

Yup....road trip time....stalk him home and ring his door bell asking for your money back. This tends to get someones attention if you know and they know where he lives.

Worked for me a few times.... :wtf2:

PM me his address and I will go pay him a visit :)

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Will there be guns involved?

Only 4 negative reviews on Yelp? I'm wondering why the guys in the group buy aren't blasting this all over the social media to get he words out, that's one way to get their attention quickly.

The question is: Is there any blood in the turnip?

If not, running it through a juicer may be cathartic, but that's all...

If GTM is Ch 11, the best anyone can hope for is turnip juice :(

I get what you're saying, but at least they should refund the money that doesn't belong to them. They do work on other platforms so if they want to continue to stay in business then do the right thing.

Funny that many people talk **** and big game.

Not many people are actually violent and will go and beat someone over $10k. Reason usually kicks in and you know it will cost you more than $10k...


But please, to the guys who want his address... It's online, GTM's is currently moving, so run over as fast as you can so you can beat his àss. Nothing would make me happier.

I'll even tell you what car to look for. A white Toyota Yaris. If that car is there 99% chance he's there. He doesn't drive, his wife drives him to work since the brain cancer... So... He might be there even if the car isn't there.


OP, as much as I'd not like to say that you're wasting your time by coming out... You're wasting your time. Sam will not show up to court, and you will win. You probably aren't going to be getting your money back though... Because he won't pay. Best scenario when you get to CA, take a bunch of shít back with you... Like 1.5 times as much value as to what you paid and try to sell it all.




Good luck :tiphat:

IDK about the above bolded. People get into trouble all the time over a whole lot less than 10k. This guy is really lucky he didn't steal from someone who would get violent over that amount of money.

I just find it odd that this guy KNOWINGLY stole thousands of dollars from people on this site and hasn't even showed up to say anything about it and nobody has tried to visit them.

Firstly all the advice of stalking etc etc. Forget it. If you do that you will become the criminal and he can easily seek the help of the police issue warrants etc etc..then that will be used against you in a court should you seek to sue him.

My house basically was butchered in a remodelling job. Long story short the guy did not know what he was doing, had criminals on his pay role etc etc. He game and how he ripped people off was he would do the job and start but then would require additional funds to complete.

Went through this and that but the house had a gapping hole in it had to get another contractor to repair it and a couple actually would not because of the electrical wiring issues.

So I decided to take this all to court. Investigating here and there well the guy did it to others. The DA had no desire to pursue this since it was not a glamorous case. I still went forward only to discover this...

-He owed 280k in back taxes to the Feds
-He owed 50k in back state taxes
-He owed thousands in back child support.

My lawyer said after discovering this that I should drop the case...all of those people get paid before I get paid. So after over a year I dropped it. This whole thing cost me over 15,000 bucks to pursue only to hit road block after road block.

What I am saying is sometimes you have to just eat it. If he has failed to deliver on his product and it sounds like many have experienced this he probably owes money to creditors, Feds, State Taxes and all of those will be paid long before you are given one cent.

Small Claims court is one option but one thing you probably do not know is that when awarded money you don't necessarily get it at once. You can be put on a many years payment plan based on that persons budget. If hes broke well you dont get squat.

Cheers.

Ahh haa now you get into the legality of business's. In a court a person is on the lowest list of payback. His creditors come first.

You sure he's not hiding out in Florida? ;)

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I agree with you. But most people arent violent enough to actually get in someone's face and beat them over $10k. More than likely people catch a beating for insulting someone's family or whatever...

And again, the second part of the statement was that reason kicks in and says that IF you go kick the guy's àss for taking your money... You'll not only not get the $10k, but it will cost you more than $10k to get you out of jail...


OP is costing himself probably $3k to collect $7k. And the odds of ACTUALLY collecting that $7k is slim to none. Again OP, best bet is to do what the other guy did. Cash out on oil pans and sell them at a loss.

Violence is not the answer to solving this.

woooo, nismo would luv this for target practice. :rofl2:

If this had happened to me I would be flying to ca and bringing some bail money... From what I hear though gtm is working on rebuilding the company and in about a year they should be back to normal but I find that total bs..

Being from New Orleans I can tell you people down here are willing to do a whole lot for less then 10k. I understand that you may need bail money and **** like that but I'd be damn if I would sit by over 10k. That's months of work for some people for some scumbag to hold on to.

If they have filed chapter 7 or 11 you can kiss that money goodbye. Check into before you invest any more money trying to get it back. Call the BBC and report as well if you haven't already.

How about try calling this guy? OP im sorry and Im with you its such a pain that nobody can really help and bring your money back. This guy must be even under the protection of the law from being harassed. I only wish this guy exist.

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thats really sh1tty man, i hope you get your money back, dude I would say everyone on here has been burned at least once, and it sucks.. big or small dollar amounts. Its all BS.

I know I understand everything you guys said, I've been trying to get in contact with him but no answer, last I talked to Pablo was January 23 and I was trying to get some parts for the money but since then no answer so I don't know wtf is going on, that's why I asked if someone was close to his area and see if he's still there and get his a** on the phone, I've tried emails and every number I found, 909-481-4300, 909-296-6300, 909-481-1401, 909-484-3050, 909-481-1409 suppose to be his cell but nothing, the company power delivery systems inc filed for chapter 11 on all the new equipment they bought, so that basically suppose to mean "please hold and let me try and get my **** together", so if someone close to him could get him on the phone to call me or at least find out wtf he's up to it would help.

he responded to my email, said he will call me today, guess we will see what happens...

Good luck brother

I still think you guys should be plastering GTM all over FB, Yelp, Titters, Instagrams and whatever the hell you people use these days so people off the forum are aware not to make anymore donations to this company.

Thanks drew.

Well... did he call?

of course not..

That Sh*t.

Did you try to email him back?

Hmmmmmm. Sounds like I should call and place an order. Give him some bs credit card number to run to see if they are still taking orders

Get their new address too