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Originally Posted by semtex Well, the thing about advertised gains, I've noticed, is that it's always the gain if that's the only mod and everything else is stock. In other
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If the exhaust manifold was the major weak link, it will show regardless of what other mods are present. CFM is..... CFM. Frankly was surprised as to how good the stock manifold was mfg as they look more or less like headers and were port matched better than the Stillen headers.. Wimpy tubing and not equal length, besides that....headers. Obviously the stock cats are a major weak link and personally got a 12 hp gain just from doing cats. Quote:
Read Chapter 1 (Basic Engine Theory) in John Lingenfelters book as he emphasizes application plus what he calls "The Golden Power Rule": Always emphasize power within the rpm range where the engine spends a majority of time. The guy who ports my heads (Trevor Johnson) at one time worked for the Nickens Bro pro stock team and just talking with him at his shop has really further enlightened me quite a bit. He does exactly the same porting heads on the flow bench as he never pays much attention to peak flow.....it's average flow within the lift range of the cam. He'll back cut valves which hurts peak flow but helps lower lift flow to get a better average. Truthfully whenever I do a mod typically post peak hp gain at peak hp, but privately have a spreadsheet that computes average hp gain and average hp gain within a simulated 1/4th mile run. This is the one I really look at, not the dyno sheets. The dyno sheets are just input for the spreadsheet. In my Corvette On I-635 from a second gear punch ending up racing a turbo car that made over 100 hp more peak power. Immediately started pulling him but saw him start to pull me and catch up. This didn't last long as soon as he shifted out of his peak power, the car lost momentum and I kept walking. Still average power that wins races. No question people whom sell performance items pick an area of the curve which supports the most gain, quotes that figure and are not afraid of finding "Optimal Conditions". One unintentional aspect I see people do is they take a hot car, dyno it and post the output. Then they put the mod on letting the car cool, redo and it shows a gain. My car shows over a 10 hp difference between hot and optimal temperatures and the only mod was letting it set for a while. Last edited by Denny McLain; 10-04-2009 at 06:05 PM. |
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