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avery370z 08-18-2014 09:05 PM

Lower intake
 
Has anybody done a port and polish or extrude hone on a lower intake? If so what type of gains did you receive.

aszyd 08-18-2014 10:31 PM

Synolimit. Megan370z.

avery370z 08-18-2014 11:27 PM

Thanks I will check them out.

avery370z 08-21-2014 07:18 PM

Just got back my lower intake and installed it. It made a big difference in my engine response. Im getting on the dyno sept.3rd to see if it gave me any gains.

avery370z 08-22-2014 12:09 PM

Finished product.

http://i61.tinypic.com/2gy9gyw.jpg

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http://i59.tinypic.com/jtv1v8.jpg

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SlowZ 08-22-2014 12:57 PM

Do you have the Z1 plenum? I was thinking about doing this also

ANMVQ 08-22-2014 01:16 PM

Will be interested in what happens with this also, I just installed my M370 and felt a NICE difference in the car and Z1 HFC's just went in 2 hrs ago. Looking to finish off my NA build

Mitco39 08-22-2014 01:27 PM

Looks great, I wonder if there is any merit in doing this on a boosted application. I doubt the gains would be as great.

TopgunZ 08-22-2014 01:29 PM

I have an extra one for sale if somebody would like to do this but doesn't want their car down for lead time.

avery370z 08-22-2014 04:33 PM

Yes I have the Z1 plenum and bored throttle bodies. The motor was very responsive before but after the lower intake got gasket matched and extrude honed it took it to another level. Getting retuned September 3rd.

tommyguns 08-22-2014 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 2939995)
I have an extra one for sale if somebody would like to do this but doesn't want their car down for lead time.

Not any more!:tiphat:

avery370z 09-16-2014 06:47 PM

Just got dynoed and my car out down 340 whp and 265ft tq. I think the lower intake mod was worth the money. I will post the sheet sometime this week.

2012z 09-16-2014 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avery370z (Post 2967158)
Just got dynoed and my car out down 340 whp and 265ft tq. I think the lower intake mod was worth the money. I will post the sheet sometime this week.

Holy cow that is great numbers!! What mods do u have on ur Z?

tommyguns 09-16-2014 09:04 PM

Can you please tell me who did the work as well as the cost. Thanks

avery370z 09-16-2014 11:04 PM

Extrude Hone in California. I sent them the gaskets and the intake and they did the rest. It cost me 600 dollars. I know that's expensive but it's another step done next is a stroker kit.

Megan370z 09-17-2014 05:51 AM

we all know the Z1 modified oem intake produce gain...
but what we will never know is, if there was in Fact any gain relied to your polish of your lower intake ....

unless you get another OEM unmodified and test it back to back on the dyno with the only part being changed

because the way you are mentioning is you all did that together

a placebo effect is soo each easy to feel without knowing it.

ANMVQ 09-17-2014 09:19 AM

600$ :O For just the port work? Or all together with buying the lower intake?

ANMVQ 09-17-2014 09:21 AM

Great point Megan but I doubt I'm going to put down 340 with my Motordyne mani and Z1 HFC's. The lower had to give something. I'm going to be happy with 310 WHP

avery370z 09-17-2014 11:48 AM

Well before I had 318whp and 260ft tq without stillen headers and the lower intake. So with that combo it gave me 20 more hp. And extrude hone is more than a port and polish. The 600 dollars was just for the work I paid 185 for a used intake.

avery370z 09-17-2014 11:50 AM

And I used the same dyno to be alittle more accurate.

Megan370z 09-17-2014 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avery370z (Post 2967872)
Well before I had 318whp and 260ft tq without stillen headers and the lower intake. So with that combo it gave me 20 more hp. And extrude hone is more than a port and polish. The 600 dollars was just for the work I paid 185 for a used intake.


so now you are saying you gained 20whp with the stillen header & the ported lower intake ? which brought the result to your claimed 340whp ?

Im having a hard time believing it.
something was not tuned right before or something.

I care less about the 340whp because we know that doesnt mean much but just a reference point ... What I have problem with is that 20whp gain from stillen header and a ported lower intake.

Prototyper5 09-17-2014 05:07 PM

I'm curious to see what Just a ported lower intake manifold dynos, before and after...

~Reagan

avery370z 09-17-2014 06:44 PM

Well i used the same dyno the same tuner and he started with my current UpRev tune. He made the adjustments and thats what went down bro. Sorry its hard for you to believe.

Megan370z 09-17-2014 08:40 PM

u mad bro ?

SlowZ 09-17-2014 09:15 PM

Yeah it's not that hard to believe lol. The Stillen headers with the ported intake combined with uprev adjustments could very easily gain 20hp. Stillen headers aren't the best but they are good for at least a few ponies with adjustments

tommyguns 09-17-2014 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prototyper5 (Post 2968347)
I'm curious to see what Just a ported lower intake manifold dynos, before and after...

~Reagan

Me too!

avery370z 09-17-2014 09:32 PM

Not at all just stating the facts bro.

Megan370z 09-17-2014 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowZ (Post 2968609)
Yeah it's not that hard to believe lol. The Stillen headers with the ported intake combined with uprev adjustments could very easily gain 20hp. Stillen headers aren't the best but they are good for at least a few ponies with adjustments

If you are ready to believe any claim from a guy who isnt showing any dynosheet and doing those test without doing it properly to really find what modification give what.

go ahead and blindly believe it.

the stillen header has never really gave anything and we never on this board proved it was giving much more than a few whp like you say ... 5-7whp at best.

that porting giving about 10-15whp is indeed hard to believe.
unless it wasn't tuned correctly previously or at all.


the topic is about the lower intake gain but the OP added another variable which we wont know what the lower intake can provide.

Megan370z 09-17-2014 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avery370z (Post 2968622)
Not at all just stating the facts bro.

read my post previously and show me the facts than just what you are trying to prove.



I just want to believe gain as I truly believe the VHR can gain a ton of power from stock .... I ended at 68whp over stock 2-3 years ago before I blew the VVEL and I am sure it could go close to 90whp over stock.

so im not bashing you but doing testing and proving what mods gives what has to be done correctly

was that 318whp with the Z1 intake and over sized TB really tuned at 100%
or just a quick tune as most tuner does.

and then you installed the stillen header and ported lower intake
it gave what 340 exactly ? with a tune?


you never showed any dynosheet to put weight to your claim

so I just want to believe but you aren't proving it right now.

Eclipz 09-18-2014 04:49 PM

Can you give the specs of how much you bored from your TBs and where you got them done. and how much you extruded from the manifold?

what CAI are you running with your bored TBs? what other mods do you have? sorry for all the questions, just want to get a better idea of what could contribute to your gains. if 340 is legit, then you should consider cams next.

avery370z 09-20-2014 01:56 PM

Below are the numbers before and after.

http://i60.tinypic.com/16a5ead.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/2j5j6lw.jpg

Megan370z 09-20-2014 04:13 PM

Thank you ;)

so with stillen headers and your lower intake porting gained 20whp
there is quite a nice jump starting at 6800 to 7500rpm ( that's where the VVEL jump at his max)

there is a steady 2-6whp gain from 2600 to 6000rpm then start to open up 10whp gain at 6800. Then end up with a 20whp gain at peak.

Not bad, I wonder how much of gain is related to the porting.

Chuck33079 09-20-2014 04:19 PM

Was the temperature similar for the before and after dynos?

avery370z 09-20-2014 09:50 PM

From just the extrude honing I don't know but I definitely felt the difference with my butt dyno. Next are the heads and I will post whether it makes power or not. Ptuning s dyno is in an environmental controlled room so the conditions are pretty much the same. I'm just exploring how much power this NA motor can make.

Eclipz 09-20-2014 10:22 PM

what do you plan on doing to the heads? Can you please list the other mods that you have? thanks and good luck with your plans

SlowZ 09-21-2014 09:48 AM

Hmmmm so I guess I was right in believing him this whole time!

avery370z 09-21-2014 12:44 PM

I'm disassembling my heads and going to Extrude Hone them and get a three angle valve job and slap them back on and see what happens. I would like to thank Jon @ Z1 motorsports and Patrick from Ptuning without there help I couldn't make this project work. I will create a sig that list all of my mods.

synolimit 09-21-2014 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avery370z (Post 2967356)
Extrude Hone in California. I sent them the gaskets and the intake and they did the rest. It cost me 600 dollars. I know that's expensive but it's another step done next is a stroker kit.

Damn. My lowers I sell ported sound good then at only $485 plus I do a core refund!

synolimit 09-21-2014 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prototyper5 (Post 2968347)
I'm curious to see what Just a ported lower intake manifold dynos, before and after...

~Reagan

I can do if people help me out. I have ported ones plus throttle bodies ready to start moving. I tried to dyno like the OP and it didn't work out because time was to great between dyno events. What I really need is a local to buy the parts and we all head to the dunk and do everything the same day.

synolimit 09-21-2014 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowZ (Post 2973366)
Hmmmm so I guess I was right in believing him this whole time!

Maybe, maybe not. How much recalibration done with the dyno months or weeks apart? Tuner mess with any settings within the computer of the dyno? I'd still like to see temps and such. Also what's the correction factor setting? These numbers could be the difference of SAE to STD or SAE to STP. Lotta lotta variables here. Like Megan said. ONLY!!!!! Way is same day, same dyno, no touching.


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