Apparently the rattle is one of the intake tubes hitting the A/C lines. It happens under heavy acceleration.
jazz
02-21-2011 12:34 PM
so much work to clean the filters
Vince's Red-Z
04-22-2011 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang
(Post 152670)
Last week I ordered the Injen intakes from forum vendor THMotorsports. Nick at THMotorspots offered great pricing and his free 3-day air shipping special is awesome. I ordered early Thursday afternoon and the intakes were delivered Friday morning. Sweet!
The kit comes in a bright red Injen box. It's neatly and safely packaged. All of parts are quality pieces, and the instructions are pretty detailed. There are 85 images in all. Some can be a little bit confusing, but if you take your time and think them through it's pretty simple.
Installation requires removal of the front fascia and the factory washer fluid tank (located on the passenger side). The intake kit includes a smaller volume tank with mounting brackets to make room for the air filter. The only downside to this is that the factory washer fluid filler neck needs to be cut so the included rubber hose can be fitted to the new tank and freshly cut filler neck. This is the only cutting required.
I know a lot of people are intimidated by removing the front fascia. It's really not that difficult at all. Simply remove two bolts and two clips inside the fender wells, unbolt the bottom of the bumper, and remove the clips at the top of the fascia and gently pop it out. It will probably take you 15 minutes your first time. Reinstalling is easy as well.
I'd say the most difficult part of the entire install is dealing with replacing the washer fluid tank, but all-in-all it's really easy.
Anyways, on to the good stuff.
After everything was put back together it was time to fire up the car. It sounds the same as stock on startup, but when you rev it you hear the "woosh" from the intakes sucking in a ****-ton of air. When you're on the road it's a deep growl that's most noticeable from around 3k-5k.
As far as the butt-dyno is concerned... it's hard to tell. I haven't really been able to go all-out with the car yet... low and mid-range power feels unchanged. If there are gains up top I haven't really driven the car in such a manner to feel them yet. This is what I expected, though, as it seems like the intake systems make their gains at the very peak of the RPM range whereas the exhaust mods seem to provide solid gains all throughout.
I did disconnect the battery during the install and I will be giving the car the rest of the week to adjust to the new intakes. Earlier in the day I took a trip out to Function Tuned in Dulles, VA where I had baseline dynos performed on their Dyno Dynamics machine. The stock result is 258.1 whp which is in line with stock 370s on this type of dyno. Be advised that different dynos measure whp differently. Dyno Dynamics tend to read quite a bit lower than DynoJet, for example. I'm sure I'd be somewhere between 275-280whp on a DynoJet.
I will be going back to Function Tuned next Saturday for another dyno. I'm hoping the weather conditions are similar to today (87*F at the time of the dyno, will have to check for the humidity) and hopefully we'll see some gains. I'm going to take the car out again in the morning and find some places to stretch it's legs and report back.
For now, here's a short video of startup/revving and some light acceleration.
Results 8/22/09:
I took the car in for a dyno this morning and saw a +7.3whp gain for a total of 265.4whp. Based on the conditions and type of dyno, I think this is more or less in line with Injen's +15whp claim (on a DynoJet). I will post the comparative dyno graph when the shop e-mails it to me on Monday (printer ran out of color ink), but I can say that it looks very much the same as the Injen and Stillen G3 manufacturer supplied charts. Minimal or no gains until around 7,000 rpm when the stock intakes become a restriction.
My thoughts? I think the only intakes worth buying are long-tube designs... whether you choose the Stillen G3 or Injen's is up to you. I think both systems, tested in identical conditions, would yield very similar results.
I believe that the stock intake system functions very well on a stock n/a car. It is not a restriction until the very top end of the RPM range, where only the long tube intakes provide any gains. I don't think short-tubes are a worthwhile investment.
Yo dude, I am freak'n confused, I am near close of getting the same intake but seriously hesitating. Please let me know, with your gains of hp and torqe are you still happy with your intake choice? Thanks man! :tiphat:
m4a1mustang
04-22-2011 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince's Red-Z
(Post 1069248)
Yo dude, I am freak'n confused, I am near close of getting the same intake but seriously hesitating. Please let me know, with your gains of hp and torqe are you still happy with your intake choice? Thanks man! :tiphat:
I don't have the car anymore, but I was never disappointed with them at all. If you read my comments on the "butt-dyno," I never really felt any gains. And you really won't feel any with the CAIs on these cars. The factory airbox is very well designed and doesn't really start to bottleneck until around 7,000 RPM. Most of gains are in that last 500 or so RPM of the rev range.
That's not to say it's not worth it, but on it's own the CAI will not give you much. Combine it with exhaust and a tune to take advantage of the extra airflow and then you'll really see gains.
If you are really concerned with peak numbers, the Stillen G3 intakes definitely seem to be the best out there in that regard. You could expect to gain a few more hp with the Stillens than with the Injens.
Vince's Red-Z
04-22-2011 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang
(Post 1069254)
I don't have the car anymore, but I was never disappointed with them at all. If you read my comments on the "butt-dyno," I never really felt any gains. And you really won't feel any with the CAIs on these cars. The factory airbox is very well designed and doesn't really start to bottleneck until around 7,000 RPM. Most of gains are in that last 500 or so RPM of the rev range.
That's not to say it's not worth it, but on it's own the CAI will not give you much. Combine it with exhaust and a tune to take advantage of the extra airflow and then you'll really see gains.
If you are really concerned with peak numbers, the Stillen G3 intakes definitely seem to be the best out there in that regard. You could expect to gain a few more hp with the Stillens than with the Injens.
A million "Thank you"; you gave me peace of mind!
I agree about the custom intake vs the OEM intake, the OEM is fairly well designed. I have a CBE upgrade and its gains were very impressive. So, I have the sound and some gain, money well spent I believe. I am not a racer, I just love speed when it can be of no threat to anyone else. I think I am done with upgrades. Thanks dude! Oh, if I can ask, why do you no longer have your Z? :tiphat:
m4a1mustang
04-22-2011 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince's Red-Z
(Post 1069298)
A million "Thank you"; you gave me peace of mind!
I agree about the custom intake vs the OEM intake, the OEM is fairly well designed. I have a CBE upgrade and its gains were very impressive. So, I have the sound and some gain, money well spent I believe. I am not a racer, I just love speed when it can be of no threat to anyone else. I think I am done with upgrades. Thanks dude! Oh, if I can ask, why do you no longer have your Z? :tiphat:
No problem, man. :tup:
As for the Z... I had a lot of fun with it and decided I wanted to give the new 5.0 a try. So far so good. ;)
CZero
04-23-2011 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang
(Post 1069300)
No problem, man. :tup:
As for the Z... I had a lot of fun with it and decided I wanted to give the new 5.0 a try. So far so good. ;)
That's funny lol. I actually test drove both a new 5.0 and the 370z and ended up with the Z.
The 5.0 was definitely fast as hell, just couldn't get over the horrible interior and the fact that I live in Texas means everyone and their mom owns a mustang.
Not trying to bash it, it was a really fun car for the money, just not my thing I guess.
m4a1mustang
04-23-2011 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CZero
(Post 1069373)
That's funny lol. I actually test drove both a new 5.0 and the 370z and ended up with the Z.
The 5.0 was definitely fast as hell, just couldn't get over the horrible interior and the fact that I live in Texas means everyone and their mom owns a mustang.
Not trying to bash it, it was a really fun car for the money, just not my thing I guess.
Different strokes for different folks. ;)
If you tested a base I could understand your interior concerns. The Premium package is pretty damn plush though. :yum:
dark_nismo
04-24-2011 10:26 AM
Just curious, when it comes to the installation of the injen windshield resevoir, was there an electrical harness from the bottom oem resevoir that is not installed on the Injen reservoir at all? I remember installing the side motor plus it's electrical harness and the water line, but there wasn't a place for the harness that I took off the bottom part of the oem resevoir..
m4a1mustang
04-24-2011 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dark_nismo
(Post 1070920)
Just curious, when it comes to the installation of the injen windshield resevoir, was there an electrical harness from the bottom oem resevoir that is not installed on the Injen reservoir at all? I remember installing the side motor plus it's electrical harness and the water line, but there wasn't a place for the harness that I took off the bottom part of the oem resevoir..
Yes, the Injen tank doesn't have a predrilled hole for the washer fluid level sensor. One of the members here drilled a hole for it, though.
dark_nismo
04-24-2011 03:17 PM
Ok got it. Thought I did it right. Guess it's not required. Thanks.
m4a1mustang
04-24-2011 03:59 PM
No problem.
One thing about the washer reservoir I figure worth mentioning... it probably isn't a bad idea to paint the brackets... the material that injen supplied rusts pretty heavily.
Zrider79
04-04-2014 04:05 PM
Has anyone come from stillen g3 to the injen, can you comment on sound and feel after install ?
Driftomodachi
07-25-2017 10:20 PM
I dislike that they point down increasing the possibility of hydrolock?
Spartan 1771
07-26-2017 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi
(Post 3678752)
I dislike that they point down increasing the possibility of hydrolock?