No offense to anyone but this seems like something a ricer would do to a civic. Not something someone does to a 370z .Especially if it isn't confirmed if you actually lose power. My .02

Are you on drugs?

Don't forget looks! It has to be aesthetically pleasing too! :tup: that's why I went FI's carbon fiber canisters!


I cant help but feel the same way, you spent 30K+ on this car, its by no means really a cheap car. Test pipes can be had for $150-$200. Is that really a far reach? I mean, to each his own but it just seems.... half assed? I can understand the need/want to save money but things can be bought used for cheap too. I also feel like this would have been done in the 60's and 70's to make the V8's (and todays hondas too but sound like crap) sounds bad *** as hell and it probably cost them $.23 back then hah but the cars weren't as smart and sophisticated as ours are today.

Anyone that has done this mod put their car on a dyno? Curious to know how much power and/or torque is gained or lost with this.

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Yes I can afford and dump over 1000 dollars on some pipes to make noise and hopefully gain or most likely lose torque without any other mods such as an intake. But why would I do that when I can care less about the minimal loss or gain on my DD? It's not like im racing against other cars to work and store everyday day. Last time I checked the speed limit is 45.

For my needs from the Z is more sound so the car sounds alive. And the washer is more than enough to fulfill it. I'm pretty sure others that did the same mod feels the same way. Maybe they are just too scared to stand up for getting bashed and flamed. It not like I went in and drilled holes or put Walmart fart cans on the car like civics, and made you all "rich enthusiast" that mod cars properly look bad. Hell, bet most of you that actually bought pipes can't even tell the difference between my spacers and your 1000 dollars pipes on the street!

And I noticed everyone that talks down about this actually spent money on pipes. That just further confirms some of you are :icon23: hurt that this simple cheap mod can achieve what your over prices pipes did in the sound department.

Instead of telling everyone they're butt hurt you could Just take it with a grain of salt. You do realize you posted this publicly on a forum where you know people will comment both good and bad. I think we get it, you just wanted some extra noise and you paid $15 to make your exhaus leak for that noise. Some people want form, function, power and sound. Most of the comments were just suggestions or inquiries as to why you you went this route instead of some test pipes, not $1000 pipes. Some even asked for dyno to see if there was actual power loss I'm what you did. Yes, you will always have some sarcasm but rolling with it is better than being defensive. But again, to each their own, at the end of the day is your car and you do with it what you see fit.

I prefer "ghettoish" or "Rednecky" over "ricer." :)

I did mine because the exhaust is way too quiet in the cabin since I put some GTMat in the hatch area. I lost a lot of feedback. I have my muffler guy looking for a more permanent solution but I'm not guaranteeing you'll like it any better than the washers. Oh, wait! I don't care if you like it or not. And I take no offense for exactly the same reason. ;)

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Its your car man. Nobody here drives it but you. Ignore all the negativity. Nice cheap easy mod from the looks of it.

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ssmoked, your 370Z sounds nothing like one with a high-end CBE. It's obvious to me that you are insecure about this "modification". Stop comparing this to reputable exhaust systems. You put WASHERS in your stock exhaust and created a leak... It is more of an abomination than a mod. Get a real exhaust system and you will see why you are being made fun of. Get some ******* hearing aids, too.

I didn't know where to begin. The washer mod won't fly in my state. It's an exhaust leak. Exhaust leaks won't pass state inspection. So......, but it's your car. Do with it as you please. Tell you this though. The older you get. The more thinking you will put into each mod before you do it.

you all need to relax the fvck out. its my damn car!!

here you go... yes you guys are far more superior than me and whoever else did this washer leak on this planet, and way richer because you can afford real pipes. happy now? did your d!ck grow a few inches? get a hobby keyboard warrior

btw mantella87, only 'insecure' ppl need to constantly put others down to compensate for whatever they are lacking...


i am so done with this thread. just want to help out other members looking for cheap sound and getting flamed left and right.

please lock it

I'm convinced that you're on drugs.

Well that was fun

Everyone just simmer down now. No backtalk! Simma downa!

This is a great, inexpensive mod that is equivalent to a partial muffler delete. It doesn't necessarily hurt anything (except possibly a little hp/tq). Anyone giving him $hit for not buying an aftermarket exhaust, :gtfo2: (I'm not talking to the people calling him out for comparing it to one)

That being said, OP, to compare the sound to an aftermarket exhaust is downright wrong. As far as dBs go, sure, your washer mod exhaust is likely as loud as some of them. It may even be a little deeper (throatier) than stock, but they are very different notes. There's a reason your mod cost <$20 and aftermarket exhausts cost anywhere between $800-$2500. This is the reason you are getting flamed; if you plan to make stupid comparisons like this on the interwebs in the future, I would get some thicker skin :tiphat:

And I was already but...

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I don't see much of a difference in sound between this and a muffler delete. I'd say it was a $20 alternative to a muffler delete, not a full cat back. OP, if you're happy with it, more power to you. But you're the one who put this out on the internet inviting criticism and opinions. Don't lose your **** because some people don't like it. As long as you like it, that's all that matters.

As a FI exhaust owner, there is no comparison in sound at all. Maybe if you're just listening to youtube videos. Not in person. Nowhere close.

I'm not really giving the guy **** for not buying an aftermarket exhaust, hell, sometimes I wish I left my car completely stock. But he compared his exhaust leak to some serious exhaust systems and said the people who spent money on them (like me) could have had the same sound for $14. I think he just needs to get his hearing checked, no big deal.

I didn't call you out :ugh2: in fact, I specifically excluded you when I said "I'm not talking to the people calling him out for comparing it to one". There were several people that told him to do a real mod and get an aftermarket exhaust :shakes head:

Oh my apologies man, I guess I know that I was too hard on OP.

No worries :tup:

Yes I am a little concerned about this as well. I also see some harnesses and wires running very close to this area and the heat might damage them over time.

I know some of you are being "creative" for this 14 dollar masterpiece but my question is how the hell do you buy a 30,000 dollar car and yet to cheap to dish out around 600 for used up to 1200 for new for a exhaust that will give you no issues.

Like I said I think it is creative but my *** would never do something that may one day harm a 30 grand car.

This man gets it.

I said something similar to this on an earlier page, I agreed 100%. Something about this "mod" just doesn't make... sense?

Yeah I am working on a Goverment budget which if you know our pay you know it is small but I still don't cheap out on parts

Look on the classifieds a handful of exhaust for sale.

amen to that gov't pay

It gets better the more time u got in. I remember making 400 every 2 weeks. But being 18 and back in 03 that was enough to live on.

In 11.5 myself. Takes a while to save up for mods but that just means its all the sweeter when I do get it

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I am over 10/ On my third deployment which makes MODS come easy!

Yea as long as you don't have a wife who spends it all while you are gone! She's my ex now lol

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Yeah I plan to never make that mistake. lol so far so good!

I personally wouldn't do it, but this is a great mod for the Z owner on a budget. It really does makes the car sound better than stock. Not everyone has the means or commitment to pay for a premium exhaust. Besides, it's not like they're putting Volk stickers on Varrstoens.

EDIT: With that said, please don't ever compare this to an Formula 1 exhaust. They're not even in the same universe.

Today just for fun I did the washer mod just to hear it. I think it sounds pretty good and didn't feel any loss in power. I'm reluctant to remove it now because I like how it sounds. I'm still concerned with heat damaging components around the exhaust. Does anyone think that it will cause any damage? Should I leave it or bring it back to stock?

The next mod you guys can do is cut the springs to lower your car, lmao!

2 sets of two words
- Fast Intentions
Or
- Test Pipes

There are some suspension bushings nearby that may be susceptible to long-term damage and there is some wiring above and to the left of the left flange that looks like it could definitely be a problem. I did mine several days back, using only one washer, and can already notice some softening/smoothing of the corrugated tubing that encases the wiring. I'll be putting mine back to stock while my muffler guy and I try to figure out how to get more engine/exhaust noise into the cabin without waking the neighbors or breaking the bank.

If you want to keep the washers, adding some insulation to the wiring would probably work very well. Just about anything made for under-the-hood use should do the trick.

There is no defending this exhaust leak mod. It's a stupid idea.

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