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Greed 03-03-2010 05:43 PM

I had the same experience after dropping in the K&Ns -- smoother throttle response. The engine just flat out revs more freely. I might invest in a new CAI at some point but right now I feel like I don't want to fix what ain't broke.

PapoZalsa 03-03-2010 09:21 PM

I used K&N drop in filter and never had a problem. I don't see the logic from some of the members here....:stirthepot:

6MT 03-03-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 428076)
I used K&N drop in filter and never had a problem. I don't see the logic for some of the members here....:stirthepot:

Yep! :iagree:

Zsteve 03-03-2010 09:33 PM

the stock intakes are CAIs, they just need better flowing filters, ie K&N and if you do the Modshack vent DIY you have the same benefits as the expensive long tubes.

PapoZalsa 03-03-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 428093)
the stock intakes are CAIs, they just need better flowing filters, ie K&N and if you do the Modshack vent DIY you have the same benefits as the expensive long tubes.

Can you post his link? I'm lazy to search.

Zigen5 03-04-2010 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 428093)
the stock intakes are CAIs, they just need better flowing filters, ie K&N and if you do the Modshack vent DIY you have the same benefits as the expensive long tubes.

Modshack??? Is there a DIY??

Modshack 03-04-2010 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zigen5 (Post 428480)
Modshack??? Is there a DIY??

Ummm.....That would be in the DIY section: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ur-airbox.html

cruzmisl 03-04-2010 10:43 AM

K&N screwed up the MAF on my mustang. Oil.

Modshack 03-04-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cruzmisl (Post 428664)
K&N screwed up the MAF on my mustang. Oil.

That'll happen if you over-oil them..

I've built and sold over 1000 Airboxes for Audi's and VW's (which have particularly finicky MAFs) and not had a problem...

K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns

Zsteve 03-04-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 428766)
That'll happen if you over-oil them..

I've built and sold over 1000 Airboxes for Audi's and VW's (which have particularly finicky MAFs) and not had a problem...

K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns

And a little MAF cleaner every now and again helps to, I did that with my audis and plan on doing it with the Z too. Preventive maintenance.

PapoZalsa 03-04-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 428497)
Ummm.....That would be in the DIY section: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ur-airbox.html


Thanks! :tup:




Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzmisl (Post 428664)
K&N screwed up the MAF on my mustang. Oil.


That was your problem, not the K&N....

drisko 04-21-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp (Post 244930)
I did the same (using K&N) on my previous cars and had no issues. My goal was to confirm if there was any gains or loss over the OEM air filters. Here's the charts on torque numbers (runs #3 & #4).

Awesome job on doing that test. 4 runs on each should leave no doubt that the filters do improve performance.

Just out of curiosity, how many miles or how dirty were the stock air filters used in this test? I assume you got the K&Ns brand new?

Philipp 04-22-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by drisko (Post 507810)
Awesome job on doing that test. 4 runs on each should leave no doubt that the filters do improve performance.

Just out of curiosity, how many miles or how dirty were the stock air filters used in this test? I assume you got the K&Ns brand new?

Drisko,
Good question, the stock filters were actually in good shape (besides a couple of bugs....). And yes, the K&N's were out of the box brand new!
ps. After 9k they still run fine and no issues with MAF...

flashburn 04-22-2010 08:26 PM

Went ahead and ordered a pair off of EBay. Price was around $104 after 8% Bing cashback. Since I have no plans on getting an aftermarket intake, this is an easy way to improve over stock filters.

PapoZalsa 04-22-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 508921)
Went ahead and ordered a pair off of EBay. Price was around $104 after 8% Bing cashback. Since I have no plans on getting an aftermarket intake, this is an easy way to improve over stock filters.

That is what I'm thinking, but let me see if I can get them cheaper. ;)

flashburn 04-22-2010 08:48 PM

Under $104 shipped at Amazon.com. :) I should of ordered them from there, since I get free 2 Day shipping, oh well!

Linky: http://www.amazon.com/33-2399-Panel-.../dp/B001C4SL04

Ct Chip 04-22-2010 09:04 PM

I got mine here:
The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: SALE! K&N Performance Air Filter, 07-10 350Z/370Z
$91.75 to my door (Connecticut) for the pair.
Also added the Cobb MAF tubes.

flashburn 04-22-2010 09:31 PM

Damn, nice price! Way cheaper than anywhere else I found.

Philipp 04-22-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ct Chip (Post 508980)
I got mine here:
The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: SALE! K&N Performance Air Filter, 07-10 350Z/370Z
$91.75 to my door (Connecticut) for the pair.
Also added the Cobb MAF tubes.

CT
If you can install separately the filters and the Cobb tubes, let us known if you "fell" any gains with the MAF tubes once you are getting use to the filters.
Nice combination mods btw.
Phil

Ct Chip 04-22-2010 10:14 PM

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CT
If you can install separately the filters and the Cobb tubes, let us known if you "fell" any gains with the MAF tubes once you are getting use to the filters.
Nice combination mods btw.
Phil

Will do. Car is still in winter storage. Will put it back on the street in a week or so. I did the installs, reset the ECU and started it up. Car also has Berk HFC's and Stillen CBE.

Josh@STILLEN 04-22-2010 11:09 PM

Give us a chance to beat any price.. Just send a PM..

Although would love to see the step to Gen 3's.. we get comments every day about how happy people have been with the installs..

Lemers 04-22-2010 11:24 PM

Can't convince the financial manager to provide the funds to modify the Z. I can lable the K&N as replacement filters and she will be none the wiser.
:happydance:
Oh and by financial manager I mean wife.

ZKindaGuy 04-23-2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 244787)
K&N got hit with some bad internet stigma of "i know a guy, and his MAFs got messed up", and unfortunately that has plagued them.

They have an entire department set up to try and fail MAFs with oil, and have even gone so far as to have staff on hand to help with dealership issues if there is in fact a claim of the K&N's causing an issue..

.. none to date

K&N Consumer Protection Pledge

There's a ton of info here.. including testing

All that Guy had to do is go to Walmart and buy a $2.00 can of circuit board cleaner aerosol . THEN DISCONNECT THE BATTERY. Then spray the MAF sensor area. The oil comes right off because the spray contains carbon tetrachloride. Then let it all set for about a half hour. Reconnect battery and just start the car and let it idle for several minutes.

6spd 04-24-2010 08:54 AM

Just bought these on sale at 370source. I put them in last night and I am VERY pleased. The sound changed a bit and brought out the grunt in the motor and matched the sound of the FI exhaust perfectly IMO. I can better hear the motor now. Only other difference able to be felt/observed is the freeing up of the high RPMs. Where the car would only agree to go smoothly to about 7k, it now freely revs to redline without hesitance. Good buy for $80 bucks.

Endgame 05-20-2010 11:57 PM

What do you all think about the HKS drop in filter???

6spd 05-21-2010 11:55 AM

I looked at a filtration test/comparison between like 5 or 6 companies' air filters, K&N included, conducted on an R34, and while all averaged 4-5 hp, the levels of filtration varied greatly with HKS being the worst and K&N being second best. K&N only lost to a paper filter though, but HKS was rated as very poor for filtration. This was the usual drop in filter too, made of the same material. This made my decision a lot easier.

Endgame 05-21-2010 01:26 PM

As it does mine. THX 6spd!!

6spd 05-21-2010 03:56 PM

no problem, if you do get the K&N's, youll enjoy them, i know i do!

NISMOFO 12-28-2010 09:58 AM

Its good practice not to open up a brand new filter and install immediately. You should let it sit out overnight (at least one night) to dry out a bit. If k&n heavily oils their filters then maybe let it sit out for 6 months?? LOL.

TongMan 02-12-2011 03:56 PM

I've got a set of K&N drop in filters, but I don't want to waste my stock filters just yet. I'm at 7000 miles, when is a good time to replace the stock filters with the K&N filters?

Lemers 02-12-2011 04:21 PM

I kept mine. I put them back in whenever I go to Nissan for any service. I just don't want to give them any excuses.

IDZRVIT 02-12-2011 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 938770)
.........when is a good time to replace the stock filters with the K&N filters?

After you read this.

TongMan 02-12-2011 04:45 PM

I just checked the Maintenance Guide and our engine air filters are good for 30,000 miles. Nice. I guess I will replace it now and just keep the stock filters for any future use.

KingZee 08-09-2011 01:04 AM

Just read this entire thread and ordered mine. Lots of great information here.

I had a $75 gift certificate to Amazon.com and couldn't think of a better way to spend it. Cost me a total of $13.88. :tup: Looking forward to getting them on the car.

semtex 08-16-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 938807)
I just checked the Maintenance Guide and our engine air filters are good for 30,000 miles. Nice. I guess I will replace it now and just keep the stock filters for any future use.

Keep the stock filters for when you clean the K&N's. When you clean the K&N's, you spray cleaner all over them and then flush them out with water. Then you have to let them dry before re-oiling them. While you're waiting for them to dry out, put the stock filters back in so your car isn't grounded while waiting.

KingZee 08-16-2011 04:09 PM

Installed these yesterday. Car feels more responsive and sounds deeper/better. Love them.

dirTy_shoeZ 08-18-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 938790)
I kept mine. I put them back in whenever I go to Nissan for any service. I just don't want to give them any excuses.

hell yeah...fuckin lamo's

Mecinoid 11-19-2011 02:38 AM

I have used K&N Filters for over 20 years. I have yet to have a problem with the oiling issue. I make sure I follow the directions when reoiling the filters. In every car I've installed the drop in filter I've notice a slight improvement. In all cars I notice gas mileage improvement as well. Well worth the $50 or so per filter.

Add a free flowing exhaust and you she'll give you a little more power.

I have custom exhaust with 12" resonators and K&N drop in filters. Sounds wicked. Easy return to factory stock if I ever need to. Four bolts for the exhaust and a couple clips for the filters.

Cheap fun mods is what I want for this car. Now, my other cars are money pits. Money is no object in getting more power for those cars. It's like a huge hole in my pocket. Where did that money go? Oh... :-0 that's right... I forgot about that part.

My wife says it's always like Christmas around our house for me. I'm always getting presents delivered. He, he, he.... ;-)


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