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The second dyno graph shows A/F. |
Modshack, since you do alot of intakes and have had your bumber off to do your diy intake air duct thing, would doing your diy mod and drop ins be just about as benificial as an aftermarket cai?
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Dyno results: Stock vs K&N filters!
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So I decided to test the K&N drop-in filters to the Dyno shop tonight and do a simple comparaison test versus the stock filters. I will upload the sheets as soon as my %?&*" (slow) internet connection is done downloading them... All runs were done without any changes to the car (besides the drop-ins) and were taken less than 20 minutes aparts on a DynoPack about 2 hours ago. We did 4 runs on stock and 4 runs with the K&Ns. |
so what were the results? You can tell us then post the sheets later.
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Dyno results
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Here they are on run #3 comparaison:
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Results... run #4
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ps. Can someone tell me how to insert the image instead of having attachments???
I will also send WHP sheets... |
looks about right to me, a few hp gains here and there and I didnt see any loses and Im sure better throttle response too. So what I would expect from drop ins, which is what Im doing. Have them on order already.
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Human feedbacks...
Although the numbers do show a gain thrughout the RPM band, i couldn't feel any difference coming back home at WOT.
That being said, the engine "seems" to flow more fluently (especialy during downshifts). Question for the techs folks: could the K&N oil affect the maf sensors and therefore changing the air/fuel ratio??? The filters were "out of the box"...:rolleyes: |
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not bad gains considering it was air filters....
i think it turned out well !! oh, and here http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...q_whp_run3.jpg http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...l_whp_run4.jpg |
K&N got hit with some bad internet stigma of "i know a guy, and his MAFs got messed up", and unfortunately that has plagued them.
They have an entire department set up to try and fail MAFs with oil, and have even gone so far as to have staff on hand to help with dealership issues if there is in fact a claim of the K&N's causing an issue.. .. none to date K&N Consumer Protection Pledge There's a ton of info here.. including testing |
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Very interesting indeed. Thx for the info. |
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I've used oiled cone filters (including foam type) on na, turbo, and supercharged cars and drop-ins for that matter on number of cars in the past with no issue. :)
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ive used the K&N(oiled) and currently the HKS( dry) filters in my car, no problem with either
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I did the same (using K&N) on my previous cars and had no issues. My goal was to confirm if there was any gains or loss over the OEM air filters. Here's the charts on torque numbers (runs #3 & #4).
ps. Did anyone else noticed the drop around 4250RPM and what is it the cause? |
Philipp, thanks for your efforts. Your dyno tests have made up my mind on the set up for my ordered Z. It's Stillen CBE and K&N drop in filters and nothing else. This combination should give me a 16-20 HP gain over stock with no warranty issues and that's the peace of mind I'm looking for!
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So if I'm reading the charts correctly, we are looking at 4-5 hp gains in the peak range with the drop-ins?
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My experience with the drop-in K&N is that I didn't notice any power increase--no loss, either, BTW!--but I'm now getting two weeks out of a tankful, versus 11-12 days I was getting prior to installing it. So, even if you don't get a whp increase with it, the gas savings are well worth it, dudes! Greetings from sunny/rainy Puerto Rico!
__________________________________________________ ______________________________ White Pearl '04.5 Touring Coupe 350Z: No feathering, no starting problem, no oil-consumption issue, flawless AT. |
What's the cheapest place to pick these up?
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No, there are no performance gains from a G3 intake...none at all...lol :gtfo2: |
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4-5 hp, or 3-5% gains? Please clarify. The literature that came with my K&N air filter used percentages to measure the gains. Allegedly, my '04.5 Touring Coupe gained 3%, which=8.61hp. Any experts in the house??
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As for over-oiled production KN filters, it is mythical horse ****. Certainly, there may have been a few that have affected MAF sensors, however, the majority produced are without problem. The reported problems of soakage is commonly associated with persons re-oiling their KNs. I have used KN filters for almost two decades. In fact, it is the first mod on my new cars. No problems. |
I've used K&N filters for years on high-performance motorcycles and have nothing but good things to say.
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if you live in a dusty area i would NOT recommend using the K&N filters. they let in alot of dust
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I've heard that too, actually. I don't know if it's true or not though. I also read somewhere that it's more a problem for FI applications than NA.
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from personal experience and from what alot of others have said the K&Ns have let in alot of dust. for most it wont be a problem but it does exist and can be a problem. i started with a K&N and my engine was eating dust like crazy. i switched over to Airaid and i havent seen a single spec of dust in my intake tube. just my .02
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For a given filter size, more flow generally means less filtration. I've used K&N filters on race cars but never on an engine that I expect to last a long time. Go read the info on cotton gauze filters on the R2C Performance website for more details.
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Just installed the duel filters and yes there is a major difference... The throttle is more responsive and the engine comes to life when you step on the gas. Now I just need to get my break-in period over with..:shakes head:
BTW, I have had K&N on all the cars I've owned and have never had any problems with them. So all the sensor problems and dust is crap.. Just clean the filters every so often and your good to goooo.. Just like with everything else, maintenance... |
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