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Ebay long tube Headers
OBX Long Tube Headers
OBX Exhaust Header 2009+ Nissan 370Z VQ37VHR Long Tube | eBay Any of You guys is running these headers? their design looks very similar to F.I's (don't mean quality), but bang for the buck, they seem like a good deal if they really are T304 Stainless Steel, what do You guys think? Don't want to start a brand vs brand contest, just looking for proven facts, their finish seems pretty decent on the pics and a very good price if they can perform near or similar to any of the others LTH's out there performance wise. |
OBX stuff is of terrible quality and they just go around copying designs from other company, plus their welds aren't up to the level. So it's a gamble if you get these, and if they you get a cracked weld, it's going to cause you a lot of headaches.
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For $500 bucks, it's not a huge hit to the wallet if they don't work out. If I were on a seriously strict budget, I would try them out, but it doesn't make much sense if we are driving new Z's around. The install will cost more than the actual headers, so it would be a DIY for most that buy it. There are used PPE headers I see floating around from time to time that are a couple hundred more dollars. I bought mine coated new from a private seller for $750. Used F.I headers run twice as much as these do new. OBX in general doesn't have the greatest track record, but I'm still not going to hate on anyone who tries them out. 1/3 the cost of the normal going rate for headers is a hell of a value.
Someone buy them so we can see the shortcuts they took compared to what F.I. is putting out. This would be a huge selling point for F.I. if they can pick these apart and detail the differences. |
I can say from owning an obx dowpipe on my volvo that i havent had any cracked welds or leaks in 4 years. HOWEVER, your headers will not be pretty for very long. my dp is about as ugly and discolored as pipes get. if u dont mind wht they look like then they will work fine. if u want people to go "badass headers!" when u op the hood, then dont get them.
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I had some OBX stuff on one of my Civics. Would I buy it again? No. Is it absolutely terrible stuff? No.
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their collector isnt a good one and I wouldnt waste any money on that !!
my guess is it could be pretty much the same as having the OEM header + test pipe. |
I would be interested in this anyone out there have these????
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back in the day I had an OBX turbo header for my SR20 S14. The fit was good and I never had any leaking or cracking in over a year. On the other hand I knew of people that did have issues. More a matter of consistancy than anything. Quality control is not thier strong point.
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As far as their design, do You think they are comparable to FI?
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hi!!! i have mine in a 2012 nismo and they fit very good the bad thing is the color change. i take out and paint with ceramic couting and is like new. for the money is good buy!!! and sound good with my nismo muflers. and no service light on.
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1.7in is kinda large for the pimaries. I wonder how this affect low and mid range torque.
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Primary Tube : 1.7 " OD
Collector : 2.5 " OD Flange Thickness : 3/8" Runner Wall Thickness : 16 Gauge (1.5mm) 2 x O2 Holes , 2 x ERG this is the ebay headers numbers!!! and i am sorry no dyno comparison!!! just buy it to try and see if they work with the Nismo exhaust...,and believe it or not for my wing works perfectly and when to get hooked second is when you feel more power an more pull.,,and the sound is as much as I like and the money I gave for them was very fair. but other brands can last and be of better quality but for now I feel no difference in quality since they are still where I put them and are not cracked in any way and do the job I want!! I live in Puerto Rico is an island surrounded by sea water and not noticed any marks on the pipe mold with corrosion... |
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y/n for this product???
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dyno numbers don't always mean everything. Its part throttle response too, that adds to the "fun" factor in driving. |
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I still say stick to F.I. or PPE
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**Everything you need to know about eBay headers** - E46Fanatics
people seem to run ebay headers just fine on their M3s, and for a fraction of the price, you can get the same performance as name brand heads imo, it cant hurt to purchase ebay heads, whats the worse case? everything is cracked and doesnt fit, so you use ebay buyer protection to get a refund and buy name brand heads |
When you decide to install them on the 370Z, and realize your $hit doesn't fit, let me know how you feel. The reassurance alone that PPE or F.I never had fitment issues is enough to merit the cost difference. The Ebay Header merge collector looks like it was molded from playdough. I wouldn't recommend running them without ceramic coating, something your not going to get with Ebay headers either, you have to go out and do it yourself or have a shop do it for you. By the time your craptastic headers are ready for install, you could have found a better quality used LTH here on the forums. Headers aren't just headers. A great header is tuned specifically for your vehicle, it's not one that fits where it's supposed to go, and like said before, that's hit and miss. This isn't the spot you want to try and save money on an inferior part. Going to waste more money when you uninstall it and put your stock stuff back on.
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^HAHA I agree 110%. Spend the money and don't skimp. Why purchase a nice car and then spend rice money? You can also go to your local hardware store and get PVC pipes and make yourself a CAI but I don't recommend it. If you wanna go cheap then get a civic and join the fart can club. But if you wanna stay in the clean import game then do it right and save until you can afford the proper parts.
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the problem with most ebay headers are the collector which has to be made the proper way.
not just like the megan/stillen/obx if you really want to save a couple hundred $$$ for an ebay header but pay for the labour of doing the swap . why not just pay a bit more for the optimum performance ? if you are really that cheap , just get an ebay test pipe , this wil give the same HP added than your cheap ebay header ! for a fraction of the cost |
let me chime in... as someone WHO ACTUALLY OWNS an obx product on another car, i can tell u it will perform just fine. the fit won't be too terrible. but will discolor like a SOB and be ugly as hell in a few hundred miles. i've been running an OBX 3" downpipe on my volvo for 50k+ miles. the car is currently running double the factory boost (18psi), and i don't always baby it. exhaust housing temps on the turbo can reach over 1500 degrees and this cheap downpipe has yet to faulter.
i would say give it a try. if u are on a budget, these might be the answere to getting some long tubes on the cheap. if they don't work out, u aren't out that much out of pocket.. |
thanks guys ill stick to PPE
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And for folks wondering about mid/low torque loss, don't. It's not noticeable or measurable, in my experience. |
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yes while using PVC to make a CAI is ricey, paying someone to custom fabricate a CAI and not spending $500 on stillen g3 or injen CAI isnt rice and as far as installing an ebay long tube header into your car, if m3 drivers are willing to do it because it works well, i dont see a problem with it at the end of the day, its your car and you can put what ever part you want to on it @OP build your car how you want and ignore others giving you crap about thinking about ebay parts, i have used ebay FMIC kits before and they are fine, nothing wrong with them build it how you want to and be proud of it |
I agree no one else should tell u how to build ur car.
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No one is. It's a recommendation. Majority of the people who responded say's it's a bad idea, maybe a couple say go for it. Results speak for themselves.
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My $0.02...E-Bay is plagued with knock off products sold by faceless sellers. An unfortunate cancer of the aftermarket industry.
This will be debated for years to come and has been for MANY years...items like the OBX headers are most likely a direct copy of someone else's hardwork, design, investment and engineering. PPE perhaps in this case? Supporting a company that does this enables them and discourages companies like PPE from developing future products. Keep that in mind when you purchase products such as this. Yes products like this are available at a steal in comparison to the original version sold by the innovator. But that is due to them not having to account for or incur the cost of development. Material quality also comes into questions. Again, just my opinion. |
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while you make a very valid point, but there are just some parts that dont make sense to purchase from vendors who are charging to much for it in my case, i was looking for a FMIC kit for my GST eclipse and i could have bought a blitz kit for 1k brand new, or i could have bought an ebay kit for $300 brand new and it is essentially the same product but for a fraction of the cost imo, its all about being a smart consumer and researching products before buying them, and knowing what you are getting into when you are taking the cheaper route but again thats just my :twocents: @OP if you want cheap heads, buy these http://www.amsmotorsports.com/shop/i...l-headers.html they are on sale right now and they are priced the same as OBX heads |
Shop for a little longer before you pull the trigger in my opinion. Stuff pops up without any sign and you may catch something for a STEAL! Just like I did tonight actually..... Have you seen the thread about the Momentum headers recently from the 350z? Discontinued and anyone that has em is about $1000 shipped or more. Makes the best power hands down out of any header so far, and I found a guy local (IN HAWAII ON AN ISLAND!) and i purchased it for $500. Still wrapped in plastic and in the box it was shipped in.
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Here's an example of an eBay core vs. a more reputable company. eBay http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4449/p1050666.jpg name brand http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5609/p1050669.jpg That's not to say that the eBay one is ineffective at doing it's job. For $300, it's a great deal over not having an intercooler at all, but it's not fair to say they are the same. |
Looking at the ebay header again. Merge collectors look like crap. They make knockoffs of every 370Z header. The PPE is not stepped and again, the merge collector looks like a$$. To make things worse, purchasing these crap products take the money out of the companies who developed the design. Lose & lose. And I'll freely judge anyone who uses knockoffs, because your hurting my options for future products.
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^This x1000.
Couldn't have said it any better. I guess I came on strong with my last post but this is the core factor of it all. |
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