Takeda "Attack" Intake System (Long Tube Version) - Mini Review
 

Disclaimer: Before you even read any of this: no, I did not do pre and post dyno videos. Both Stillen and Takeda have published dyno charts to show their performance capabilities. YMMV.

Folks,

I happened across the newest intake from Takeda: the Attack Intakes, Long Tube version. They're pretty new to the market (they had some short ram intakes a while ago), and there's only one other thread so far, so I thought I'd put my initial thoughts up on it. I'll update as necessary as I get more seat time.

Marketing Description (from Takeda's site):
The Product:
Takeda's newest foray into the 370Z intake market is a long tube system, and at first glance it looks like one of the most popular systems on the market, the Stillen Gen 3. They do look remarkably similar, I'll give you that. However, instead of dual, disconnected tubes, the Takeda uses a single air filter that flows into both intake tubes. If anything, I'm curious if the surface area on the single filter is more than the Stillen; it looks like it. The filter is also nice because it's aFe's non-oiled filter, which means it will be super easy to take care of when you need to clean it. (Note: I do have aFe drop in filters too, and I love those things. I'm basing my happiness on the filter on personal experience on the stock boxes).

There's one 'flex coupling' that connects the front and rear metal tubes together, and it's made of silicone, not unlike the silicone tubes everybody likes behind the stock boxes. All in all, makes for a pretty workable product that can be adjusted a good amount to fit during installation.

The Installation:
Okay, I will be honest here, I did not do the installation myself. The installation was done at Amplified Motorsports, but I did talk to the technician a few times, who mentioned the installation was pretty straightforward (he got mad over my PW:JDM radiator cover that blocked access, but he still got it installed easy lol).

The definite plus over the Stillen for me is NO CUTTING OR DRILLING. Poor Rin's suffered enough from all the modding and deconstructing I've done to her engine bay, so this was a painless modification to do.

Everything looked like it cleared okay, and we put the bumper back on without issues, so I'm going to go out on a limb (*knock on wood*) and say the installation is fine, no issues.

The Sound:
er...right, this is about an intake, not an exhaust. Coming from my stock boxes, you can hear the intakes sucking in air a lot more, which means it's working! I guess it's a good 'performance' noise though, if you're looking for that sort of thing in your intakes though...

The Performance:
I drove the car pretty hard to Amplified when I could (I did get a little heat soaked in traffic here and there), and I tried to just do a seat test after installation on my way home. The car certainly feels like there's a bit more power across the board, even at low RPMs. It's interesting, since I remember seeing dyno charts saying Stillen gets most of it in the top end of the RPM band. I'd be interested in seeing more dyno charts with the Takedas to confirm what I'm thinking, but Rin is a little more responsive now. At least, in comparison to drop in filters and stock hardware.

Based strictly on literature though, you're barely going to notice a performance difference between this and the Gen 3s. They're so close. I mean, they are VERY similar designs, after all.

Side Note: I'm HyperTech'd against a stock intake tune still, and I'm driving around just because I wanted to eliminate that variable. The next thing I'm doing to try is to re-HyperTech with the intake map they have for the Stillen/Takeda design intake. Let's see how Rin responds then.

The Obligatory "Where's My Dyno Sheets" Section:
I don't have any. Here's a link to dyno charts from Takeda, though. They even have an air flow comparison on their site.

and for fun, Stillen.

The Pictures:
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The Other Interesting Stuff to Read:
Cold Air Intake System Takeda aFe Power Takeda Intake System; Stage 2 Polished; Pro DRY S; Nissan 370Z 09-12 V6-3.7L TA-3017P - aFe Power
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...-got-mine.html

The Verdict (for now):
Pretty happy with the intakes right now. It's nice to see some alternatives come out for the Z to give the Stillen a good run for its money. It's more attractive to me than any other option because you don't have to futz with any other part of the car to get these installed. No cutting, no drilling, no chance of getting it wrong, in my opinion. I do reserve the right to change my review at any time after posting, but:

I'd recommend these to anybody on the market right now.


:tup:

Thanks to Lou@Amplified and the rest of the AMP team as well for the help and install!

any new rattles vibrations?

any issues with the piping rubbing against the AC lines?

Nope to rattles / vibrations everything is nice and snug. All I hear new is the whoosh of air.

No issues with piping and the AC lines. I'll see if I can snag a few photos somehow.

This thread is worthless without videos. :p

^ hahaha

thanks for the review, +rep

:icon18: Nice post & thnxs for the review....

Nice write up...:tup:...Thanks for sharing information...I think I am in the market for intake..:rolleyes:

and a whole lot of other stuff :rofl2:

It would be nice $$$ grow on trees..:roflpuke2:

These are next on my list

Thanks for the review and info! Grats! Intake is next on my agenda as well

nice review...seeing how nobody prolly knows the answer to this...ill ask anyway.


any thoughts on how these would respond to a z with the m370 intake manifold?

After hours of researching and going back and forth between a short ram system or an alternative option of slicone intake hose and filter, I finally decided on this system. I was very skeptical with having to remove the bumper for install and maintenance but chose it do to dyno numbers and no cutting or alterations needed. Ordered today from autoanything.com should ship out by the end of next week. I plan on dyno tuning with this system and Agency power CBE. I'll post #s once everything is done.

Do separate dynos. Doing a dyno with both intake and CBE together won't be a good indicator of what these intakes can do.

Definitely interested in another dyno graph. If the gains from the first dyno are replicated here, with much greater low end gains vs the G3, it'd sell me on this intake.

Thread is missing butt dyno info :tup:

Just because it takes a lot to get your butt rolling does not mean it will be the same for everyone... :p

Aem eti
 

I have AEM ETI intakes as well as the Hypertech Max Energy Sport...what would be the best tune for them...Stillen or Takeda? I have a Stillen CBE...

I've been looking into the short ram takeda. Is this a better choice?

for the most part yes

Why do you think the short ram is a better choice. I ask because I have already ordered the long tube. What is the pro's besides not having to remove the front bumper?

I guess I wasn't quite clear with the last post. short rams don't give a good performance return on the money spent. I would go long tubes, i.e. the intakes shown here. sorry for the confusion

Roger that!! Thought I made a mistake getting the long tubes.:tiphat:

Does Takeda offer this thing in wrinkled flat black?

[QUOTE=Rising star;1747043]It would be nice $$$ grow on trees..:roflpuke2:[/QU... it does grow on trees !!!OTE]

I like everything about Takeda( the price, no cutting, the filter bolt) the only thing that has me leaning towards Stillen is that Takeda isn’t carb legal for peeps like me in California and any other state that has strict smog laws. On the up side its pending so perhaps soon but till then…...

like the information. I'll have to do some more research, but do you have to tune with a stock 370z or is this simply plug'n play?

Does anybody know if this can have dual filters like the Stillen? Based on pics looks like the 2 pipes connect to their filter separate on both sides.

I suppose you could if the same tube diameter and will need to cut the tubes. The big question is why?

To keep dual stillen style. Looks like u have it, do you know pipe diameter ?

What's your reason though? You just like the look? Or do you think having two separate filters will make more power? I've had the takedas for a year now and they work just fine. I highly doubt messing with the filters will make any noticeable difference.

No real reason. I found the long 18 page thread and seems like everyone that has it has no problems. (I just kinda didnt like the 1 big filter idea)
I also see someone mentioned that they did put dual filters on theirs.

I guess I will know when mine gets delivered :tup:

^ Yes it can be done .. now you have to find out the correct filter's diameter.
If Stillen G3 K&N's fit on them then this is the part # RX4990.

G.L ..

I found takeda dimensions on website, says 3in filter mouth. I measured my filters from my AEM and they are about 3in mouth.

^ Then put em n let us kno :tup:

My AEM filters are actually just at 3" or slightly smaller so was a no go. I'll eventually find some and replace the single. With the pipes having to meet the single filter in center, it was beotch to get right length and leave enough piping to crab and tighten, besides getting everything aligned.

I'll eventually dremel the radiator support holes to make it even diameter all the way through and at same time replace filter with duals. But other than that I'm happy with Takeda Attacks.



http://www.the370z.com/members/7spee...takeda-cai.jpg

Weld on some velocity stacks -- that should make a significant difference.

I powder coated mine wrinkle black

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Install took about four hours..... But it was installed.

Looks good. I replaced my single filter for duals.

http://www.the370z.com/members/7spee...-aem-duals.jpg