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Old 07-19-2012, 01:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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All the improvements would most improve air flow. Zero welds means less turbulence, because the entire inside of the tube is smooth at a macromolecular level. Longer straight tubing reduces misreading at the MAF, and will deliver more accurate, precise voltage output, which prevents the ECU from tripping balls because the airflow changes. Straighter, longer tubing, again, reduces turbulence. Shorter overall length means less travel from filter to throttle body, lowering the resistance of the air to movement. It's easier to suck from a straw that's a foot long than 10 feet long (fun experiment, btw). I know what a bend radius is, but I'm not sure what "open radius bends" are. What I'm guessing is that the bends are less extreme, again smoothing airflow and reducing turbulence.

Basically speaking, smoother, more laminar airflow = faster moving, smoother, more consistent airflow. This means the MAF reads better and more accurately, and also provides a good intake charge into the plenum. All this means more horsepower across the band, although I'd imagine the biggest gains are at mid to high RPMs where faster moving air normally causes more problems especially with the stock intake tubing.

Of course, I'm only an engineering student, so these are the most likely improvements, but the actual engineer developing the intakes probably has more reasons which might also be more complicated.

I can't remember if welding or mandrel bending is cheaper overall.
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All the improvements would most improve air flow. Zero welds means less turbulence, because the entire inside of the tube is smooth at a macromolecular level. Longer straight tubing reduces misreading at the MAF, and will deliver more accurate, precise voltage output, which prevents the ECU from tripping balls because the airflow changes. Straighter, longer tubing, again, reduces turbulence. Shorter overall length means less travel from filter to throttle body, lowering the resistance of the air to movement. It's easier to suck from a straw that's a foot long than 10 feet long (fun experiment, btw). I know what a bend radius is, but I'm not sure what "open radius bends" are. What I'm guessing is that the bends are less extreme, again smoothing airflow and reducing turbulence.

Basically speaking, smoother, more laminar airflow = faster moving, smoother, more consistent airflow. This means the MAF reads better and more accurately, and also provides a good intake charge into the plenum. All this means more horsepower across the band, although I'd imagine the biggest gains are at mid to high RPMs where faster moving air normally causes more problems especially with the stock intake tubing.

Of course, I'm only an engineering student, so these are the most likely improvements, but the actual engineer developing the intakes probably has more reasons which might also be more complicated.

I can't remember if welding or mandrel bending is cheaper overall.
Makes sense to me.
Please define 'tripping balls' at the engineering level.
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Makes sense to me.
Please define 'tripping balls' at the engineering level.
Engineers are often said to be like this:
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It is commonly joked about (and also proven to be true, to a degree) that engineers who produce something that is not perfect are tortured.

According to urbandictionary, this video is an accurate representation of "tripping balls" (not gonna lie this is pretty freaky):
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So, I guess if you tried to define "tripping balls" at an engineering level, you'd arrive to the conclusion that it is some kind of painful, mindboggling experience. In other words, the MAF is confused and is subjected to watching that video over and over. It then produces something which doesn't make sense, which makes the ECU also trip balls, like watching that video while on shrooms or something. Would be a lot worse if it were a bad trip. lol
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