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Alstann 04-29-2012 10:12 PM

HKS Hi-Power Installed and Reviewed
 
Hey guys,

A few days ago, I got around to installing my HKS Hi-Power exhaust system I bought used from a forum member. I wanted to share my opinions and whatnot with you guys, in case you looked at getting the HKS system for your own car.

The Install:

I forgot to take pictures of removing my stock exhaust, but it's not too difficult. I first sprayed everything with Penetrating Blaster, then used a 1/2 drive breaker bar to loosen all the bolts from the cat back. In order, I removed the rear muffler section, then the mid pipe, then the y-pipe. One trick I found was that all the rubber exhaust hangers are bolted to the frame, not welded. I unbolted all of them to facilitate removing the stock exhaust easier, and then once off the car, I used WD-40 and my hands to wedge the hangers off. Much much much easier that way.

Here's a pic of the stock and HKS exhausts side by side. If you look closely, you can see the rubber hangers and their mountings next to the stock exhaust. I would also like to say that our stock Y-pipe is pathetic - the y collector was about the same size as ONE SIDE of the HKS H-pipe. Major restriction.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_123017.jpg

Of course, installation of the HKS was as easy as reversing the removal of the stock exhaust. I first rebolted the rubber exhaust hangers back to the car, and then installed the H-pipe, then the midpipes, then the rear exhaust sections.

Since I was working alone, I had trouble holding the H-pipe up without stressing the headers and the cats. I used a bungee cord wrapped around the driveshaft to hold the H-pipe up while I maneuvered the midpipes in place.

After that, the rear sections go on one by one, and then I just simply bolted up everything tight as possible, with a ratchet and the breaker bar. I used lock washers as well as flat washers to make sure nothing got loose or rattled.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_131728.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...6_125213_1.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_131731.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_123052.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_123034.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_142319.jpg

The Review:

First off - let me say, this exhaust sounds absolutely amazing, albeit a tad quiet for my tastes (I am on stock cats). This is definitely how the car should have sounded from the factory. The tone is deep and clear, especially accelerating from 2k to 4k. It really makes driving the car so much more fun.

As for the noise level, it is not the loudest of exhausts, unless you cold start it. When cruising around town, you can hear it when you accelerate at 1/2 throttle or more, but it quiets down to nearly stock exhaust levels when you just maintain your speed. I consider it perfect if you wish to have a quiet car while driving normally, but loud and sonorous when you step on it. On the highway, cruising at 75, you can't hear a thing - something I consider amazing for a performance exhaust system.

On the other side, it roars beautifully all the way to redline. And dont even get me started with downshifting - you'll need new underwear if you downshift through a tunnel or under an overpass.

Also, there is ABSOLUTELY NO DRONE. Zip, zero, zilch. From every speed I tested, ranging from 0-85 mph, there was no range where you heard any resonance in the cabin or annoying drone. HKS did an incredible job with their resonator and Hemholtz tuning. Their welding is also top notch, with really thick exhaust flanges and welds that inspire confidence in a long lasting product.

Fitment wise, I would give it a 9 out of 10. Reason being, the right side physically contacts this black metal shielding that shields some rubber hoses, and when I first went on a drive, it made some vibrating noises over bumpy ground and it drove me insane. My stopgap fix for this was to wedge a rubber door stop (I'll take a picture later to show the issue) between the muffler can and the black shielding. My permanent fix will be to dremel back the black shielding a bit to give some clearance. Also, the exhaust tips are NEARLY perfectly aligned with each other - the right side sits slightly lower than the left, but it would take eagle eyes and some careful observation to spot it. I consider it pretty darn good fitment. When I get the EVO-R diffuser, the issue will not be noticeable at all.

Performance-wise, I definitely feel the boost in power and torque. The car seems to respond to lower RPM's much better, with no hesitation or anything, and up top, the car seems to be sailing through the gears. The noise also begs me to push the car hard. I did forget to reset my ECU with a battery disconnect - I'll probably be doing that tomorrow morning and I'll report back on that.

I would also like to mention this is my only performance mod - I am on stock tune, intakes, cats, headers, etc.

As for the appearance and looks of the exhaust, I personally think it is one of the best looking exhausts. I prefer the angled can design more than the stock-style muffler design. Fast Intentions was the other exhaust I debated for quite a while, but I couldn't pass up a great local deal. Sorry Tony! :eekdance:

The titanium exhaust tips are GORGEOUS. They are indeed length adjustable, and after I polished the rear sections and the tips with metal polish, I couldn't help but stare at my car's rear end like it was a pretty lady. (NOTE: Do NOT polish the Ti tips by machine - this will REMOVE the coloration of the tips. I hand polished them slowly with a microfiber towel, and it came out pristine. I took a polishing wheel with my dremel to a part of the blue burn, and it came off within half a second. Then again, I used a dremel spinning pretty damn fast, but better to be safe and use your hand!)

I won't be tuning the car until I get full bolt ons, but I may be getting a dyno done again soon to see the gains. I have a baseline dyno already of my stock setup.

**EDIT** Having recently removed the black shield on the passenger side, as well as unbolting the midsection and realigning it, the HKS exhaust sits PERFECTLY on my car. Symmetrical as could be.

FairladyZ 04-29-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 1693290)
Hey guys,

A few days ago, I got around to installing my HKS Hi-Power exhaust system I bought used from a forum member. I wanted to share my opinions and whatnot with you guys, in case you looked at getting the HKS system for your own car.

The Install:

I forgot to take pictures of removing my stock exhaust, but it's not too difficult. I first sprayed everything with Penetrating Blaster, then used a 1/2 drive breaker bar to loosen all the bolts from the cat back. In order, I removed the rear muffler section, then the mid pipe, then the y-pipe. One trick I found was that all the rubber exhaust hangers are bolted to the frame, not welded. I unbolted all of them to facilitate removing the stock exhaust easier, and then once off the car, I used WD-40 and my hands to wedge the hangers off. Much much much easier that way.

Here's a pic of the stock and HKS exhausts side by side. If you look closely, you can see the rubber hangers and their mountings next to the stock exhaust. I would also like to say that our stock Y-pipe is pathetic - the y collector was about the same size as ONE SIDE of the HKS H-pipe. Major restriction.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_123017.jpg

Of course, installation of the HKS was as easy as reversing the removal of the stock exhaust. I first rebolted the rubber exhaust hangers back to the car, and then installed the H-pipe, then the midpipes, then the rear exhaust sections.

Since I was working alone, I had trouble holding the H-pipe up without stressing the headers and the cats. I used a bungee cord wrapped around the driveshaft to hold the H-pipe up while I maneuvered the midpipes in place.

After that, the rear sections go on one by one, and then I just simply bolted up everything tight as possible, with a ratchet and the breaker bar. I used lock washers as well as flat washers to make sure nothing got loose or rattled.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_131728.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...6_125213_1.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_131731.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_123052.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_123034.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...426_142319.jpg

The Review:

First off - let me say, this exhaust sounds absolutely amazing, albeit a tad quiet for my tastes (I am on stock cats). This is definitely how the car should have sounded from the factory. The tone is deep and clear, especially accelerating from 2k to 4k. It really makes driving the car so much more fun.

As for the noise level, it is not the loudest of exhausts, unless you cold start it. When cruising around town, you can hear it when you accelerate at 1/2 throttle or more, but it quiets down to nearly stock exhaust levels when you just maintain your speed. I consider it perfect if you wish to have a quiet car while driving normally, but loud and sonorous when you step on it. On the highway, cruising at 75, you can't hear a thing - something I consider amazing for a performance exhaust system.

On the other side, it roars beautifully all the way to redline. And dont even get me started with downshifting - you'll need new underwear if you downshift through a tunnel or under an overpass.

Also, there is ABSOLUTELY NO DRONE. Zip, zero, zilch. From every speed I tested, ranging from 0-85 mph, there was no range where you heard any resonance in the cabin or annoying drone. HKS did an incredible job with their resonator and Hemholtz tuning. Their welding is also top notch, with really thick exhaust flanges and welds that inspire confidence in a long lasting product.

Fitment wise, I would give it a 9 out of 10. Reason being, the right side physically contacts this black metal shielding that shields some rubber hoses, and when I first went on a drive, it made some vibrating noises over bumpy ground and it drove me insane. My stopgap fix for this was to wedge a rubber door stop (I'll take a picture later to show the issue) between the muffler can and the black shielding. My permanent fix will be to dremel back the black shielding a bit to give some clearance. Also, the exhaust tips are NEARLY perfectly aligned with each other - the right side sits slightly lower than the left, but it would take eagle eyes and some careful observation to spot it. I consider it pretty darn good fitment. When I get the EVO-R diffuser, the issue will not be noticeable at all.

Performance-wise, I definitely feel the boost in power and torque. The car seems to respond to lower RPM's much better, with no hesitation or anything, and up top, the car seems to be sailing through the gears. The noise also begs me to push the car hard. I did forget to reset my ECU with a battery disconnect - I'll probably be doing that tomorrow morning and I'll report back on that.

I would also like to mention this is my only performance mod - I am on stock tune, intakes, cats, headers, etc.

As for the appearance and looks of the exhaust, I personally think it is one of the best looking exhausts. I prefer the angled can design more than the stock-style muffler design. Fast Intentions was the other exhaust I debated for quite a while, but I couldn't pass up a great local deal. Sorry Tony! :eekdance:

The titanium exhaust tips are GORGEOUS. They are indeed length adjustable, and after I polished the rear sections and the tips with metal polish, I couldn't help but stare at my car's rear end like it was a pretty lady.

I won't be tuning the car until I get full bolt ons, but I may be getting a dyno done again soon to see the gains. I have a baseline dyno already of my stock setup.

That piece you are talking about where the exhaust is rubbing or hitting was suppose to be removed alltogether.

007MI6 04-29-2012 10:22 PM

Cool write up man. Thanks for taking the time to write it. :tup:

MacLean 04-29-2012 10:40 PM

Nice write up & pics. I'm glad you are happy & impressed with your purchase & the way she sounds now. Have fun driving around town.

Alstann 04-30-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 1693299)
That piece you are talking about where the exhaust is rubbing or hitting was suppose to be removed alltogether.

In that case, I am a monumental idiot. :bowrofl: Thanks for the tip - I'll just be removing it then instead of screwing with it. In that case, I have no complaints with the exhaust fitment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007MI6 (Post 1693307)
Cool write up man. Thanks for taking the time to write it. :tup:

No problem! The HKS is really an awesome exhaust. Pricey when brand new, but if you get a deal or anything, I highly recommend it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgmg21 (Post 1693341)
Nice write up & pics. I'm glad you are happy & impressed with your purchase & the way she sounds now. Have fun driving around town.

It feels like driving a new car again - the excitement is back when you can finally hear how this car is supposed to sound! I can't wait to finally get around to installing my High Flow Cats, I believe this will make the perfect volume and sound I am looking for.

KB2 04-30-2012 01:32 PM

by far one of the best looking exhausts for the z

wheee! 04-30-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 1693299)
That piece you are talking about where the exhaust is rubbing or hitting was suppose to be removed alltogether.


^ this....

... and I think there are a set of lightly used Berk HFC's for sale on the forum right now. Jump on them, the combo is amazing!

Alstann 04-30-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1694490)
^ this....

... and I think there are a set of lightly used Berk HFC's for sale on the forum right now. Jump on them, the combo is amazing!

I actually have a set of the Berk HFC's sitting in my attic, ready to install! I was forced to stop the installation on them last month due to time constraints, and me breaking 2 swivel extensions (3/8 drive set, totally useless on demon bolts.) I got around and got a whole set of 1/2 drive stuff, and I'm ready to tackle the challenge again. My school semester ends in a few days, so I might have them on in a jiffy.

Do you happen to have any videos of your setup, wheee? I would love to indulge in that combo.

wheee! 04-30-2012 02:58 PM

I'll see what I can find... it is a very sweet setup!

Check out Linparks journal http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...journal-3.html

He has the same setup as me (:shakes head: copycat!) and he is in Florida, might be local to you....

anthonyy 04-30-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KB2 (Post 1694473)
by far one of the best looking exhausts for the z

:iagree: definitely one of the best LOOKING

MaDMaXX 04-30-2012 03:55 PM

Vids!!!

phelan 04-30-2012 03:58 PM

HKS exhausts are typically like that - quiet on normal driving, but they respond in rapturous voice when you step on the throttle. not only the Z exhausts, but their subaru legamax systems are the same thing. the nice thing about it is that you're not howling 24/7, so less chance of cops going "wtf" as you drive by :icon17:

good pickup, thanks for the review!

Alstann 05-01-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1694877)
HKS exhausts are typically like that - quiet on normal driving, but they respond in rapturous voice when you step on the throttle. not only the Z exhausts, but their subaru legamax systems are the same thing. the nice thing about it is that you're not howling 24/7, so less chance of cops going "wtf" as you drive by :icon17:

good pickup, thanks for the review!

It's definitely a good thing - my neighbors and cops have no complaints about the noise level. Sounds nearly stock under load. Of course, I do prefer a louder exhaust, at least louder than what just the HKS offers. I hope HFC's will resolve that issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1694680)
I'll see what I can find... it is a very sweet setup!

Check out Linparks journal http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...journal-3.html

He has the same setup as me (:shakes head: copycat!) and he is in Florida, might be local to you....

Sweet, thanks weeee. Like I was saying, I'm sure HFC's will make the exhaust loud enough to the point I can really hear it windows down, and that is exactly what I am looking for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1694861)
Vids!!!

I am very interested in doing some videos for the exhaust! It's been raining pretty much every day here in South FL, so it might be a bit. I want to get videos of cold start, warm start, takeoff, downshifts, and drive-by cruising and light accel. Should be a nice all rounder for anyone interested in getting this exhaust.

LakeShow 05-01-2012 05:48 PM

Very nice! Video clip time! :tup:

zero 05-01-2012 06:03 PM

Nice review. Get HFC with it and you'll be smiling every time you hammering down the throttle.

fuct 05-02-2012 09:42 AM

i loved my HKS dragger II for my IS300 so much i bought two! haha

and that one was the same. nice and quiet until you get on it.

CorbinDallas 05-02-2012 09:54 AM

I love this exhaust!! I wish I could justify spending 2K plus on a new one but I just can't. Anyway, as far as this black shielding that needs to be removed can you further explain where/what your talking about?

MaDMaXX 05-02-2012 07:07 PM

It's the metal guard around the evap canister, should be fairly obvious once you get under there.

Alstann 05-03-2012 07:51 AM

I'll snap a few pictures of it so people understand what we're on about, haha.

After driving around with it for a week and some change, I have to say I am still extremely impressed. It is absolutely perfect for a daily driver, and when I step on it, it's glorious. The exhaust videos will be done soon, I hope. I've got to edit some stuff and stitch it all together.

Alstann 05-03-2012 04:56 PM

Like I said, here are the pictures of what the black shielding near the PASSENGER SIDE muffler looks like. The driver side muffler has nothing in the way.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...503_105334.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...503_105329.jpg

You can see how I wedged the door stop to stop the contact for now. I have been driving this way for a few days with no melting or anything, so my worries have subsided. Unfortunately, the exhaust pipe blocks access to two of the bolts that hold this shield up, so I'm gonna have to make time to remove the tail end of the exhaust and get it off.

Also, something to note on the exhaust tip alignment - I had remembered the midpipe had some play in the angle I could twist it, and then bolt it tight. I think this will be enough to compensate how the exhaust sits ever so slightly uneven. I'll rejack the car up when I have time and report back on that.

wheee! 05-03-2012 05:30 PM

yaaaa...... that needs to come off lol!

MaDMaXX 05-03-2012 07:46 PM

Yup, get that pipe off and remove the guard, seems to be the way with most after-market exhausts.

forza370z 09-24-2012 12:49 AM

Nice write up! HKS hi-power is definitely the best looking CBE out there. I love the exhaust note too. It's kind different tone as the Fast Intentions. I love both systems but since I had FI carbon fiber on my g, I will prolly get HKS for my z. Very nice OP.:tup: Any vids?

Gawl128 09-24-2012 01:24 PM

Love the exhaust, and (of course) great write up.

Question: The "red feet" on top of your jackstands - where did you get them?

Gawl128 09-26-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gawl128 (Post 1929613)
Love the exhaust, and (of course) great write up.

Question: The "red feet" on top of your jackstands - where did you get them?

bump

Alstann 09-26-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 1929098)
Nice write up! HKS hi-power is definitely the best looking CBE out there. I love the exhaust note too. It's kind different tone as the Fast Intentions. I love both systems but since I had FI carbon fiber on my g, I will prolly get HKS for my z. Very nice OP.:tup: Any vids?

I agree! I decided long and hard about almost getting the FI exhaust, but this popped up local and for a great price. I was seriously about one day away from calling Tony and placing an order, but then magic happened. ^^

I've installed HFC's since then, and the exhaust is truly perfect with them installed. The drone is still zero at any road speed, provided you hold the speed constant, and when you step on it - oh man. That is one hell of a noise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gawl128 (Post 1929613)
Love the exhaust, and (of course) great write up.

Question: The "red feet" on top of your jackstands - where did you get them?

Thanks!

Some info on the jackstands: The jackstands are from Harbor Freight, and are the 3 ton ones, I believe. Or could be two tons. Can't remember. Either way, they sell accompanying red cushions that go over top of them.

The issue with the stands, is that I had to use them "long ways" on the frame rails. This was because if I had them normally on the jack points, sideways that is, one of the arms of the "Y" would dig into the plastic bodywork. Thus, I had to turn it long ways and rest the jack point on the narrow length of the stands. I only did this for a few jobs under my car - I felt slightly unsafe only having approximately .5 inches on each side of the stand to play with until the car would dismount the jack stand. They worked fine, however. I thought about grinding them down so they would work, but I was too lazy.

I promptly replaced the stands with double locking Torin 2-ton stands I got on Amazon for like 25 dollars. They work perfectly going sideways like they were designed to. They do bend the jack points slightly, but that's nothing that they weren't designed to handle. I plan to go back and weld the points stronger with my flux wire welder - just for added strength and peace of mind.

Gawl128 09-27-2012 12:50 PM

^^ Thanks for the info.

I'm planning on installing an exhaust on my Nismo soon, but haven't found good stands to put the car up on yet ... and have herd about people bending the frame notches on the car - so I'm trying to avoid that.

pellepelle10 09-27-2012 05:45 PM

I'm curious to see what dyno this exhaust puts out compared to the F.I. I would assume in the same ballpark but for that price I'd hope a little better. lol:tup:

MaDMaXX 09-27-2012 07:00 PM

I grabbed harbor freight stands with caps, but they were crap, designed literally for axles and/or american iron, with really deep recesses.

I ended up swapping them for the 'race' aluminum stands from the same place, much flatter tops and work well on the 350.

anthonyy 09-27-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1935627)
I grabbed harbor freight stands with caps, but they were crap, designed literally for axles and/or american iron, with really deep recesses.

I ended up swapping them for the 'race' aluminum stands from the same place, much flatter tops and work well on the 350.

I have those too and really like them. Looks great!

MaDMaXX 09-27-2012 07:13 PM

Yeah, they're amazingly light too, i think a nice upgrade to some thin rubber tops would be nice, not the big *** plastic caps on normal stands though.

370z 40th 09-29-2012 08:56 AM

thanks have mine on the way , ups said will be here monday, got mine for 1200.00 inc shipping , new still in box ,thought it was a good deal again thanks for your pics and great looking Z

370z 40th 09-29-2012 09:00 AM

the next item will be a stillen S C kit to go with the car, already have the eibach suspension kit on the z( wourld of diffrence) again thanks for your pics, and great review

370z 40th 10-01-2012 07:54 PM

just got home and this big box with hks eas at frt door awsome ,well UPS SUCK FOR A SHIPING ,my box was destroyed was not like that when it left the sender have pics, lucky they were packed well just a little scratch , and a little ding, , wheooow, hate UPS FEDEX IS 10 TIMES BETTER AND CHEEPER AND ARE ALWAYS ON TIME, thanks for the venting,better take my a$$ TO THE GARAGE and get to work, the exhaust lookes amazing great workmanship on the exhaust, love it even with the flaws, can live with it

Alstann 10-01-2012 08:09 PM

Glad to see another member that will be with the HKS exhaust soon! Sorry to hear about the shipping incident. By the way, my pleasure for posting the pictures, I just wanted to brag about how wonderful this exhaust is!

Post up some pictures and whatnot and tell us how it goes.

370z 40th 10-02-2012 11:19 PM

just did the install easy took only an hour to install,love it great exhaust system thanks guys for helping me make the best choice love it yes it could be louder so you could hear this great exhaust system thank for helping me join the HKS TEAM again thanks wil post pics later for every one looks bada$$ on the car would love to have it louder so you could hear it ,downshit ROCKS just like you said , and in higher rpms is awsome ,dont know about power but runs smoooooother,can not wait to see if it gets better fuel mileage, again thanks for your great input to help me trust me this only took 2yrs to figuer how i want this project to go,

370z 40th 10-02-2012 11:28 PM

its funny because if berks did not have to go to a show and had one in stock i would have that right now instead of this HKS system, so he had to get cars ready instead of building a system for customers (you would think that you would always have one on hand for customers) just worked in my favor, they said i would have to wait till the 8 before they could ship, dont get me wrong not bitchin about berks they are awsome talked to them a bunch are great guys and gals there that is what i was after and then BAMMMMM H K S smack down how awsome is that,, i thought it rocked

anhdat503 10-26-2012 09:33 PM

i will install HKS Hi-Power in my car soon about 1 month

grant 11-30-2012 06:47 PM

this weekend I get to install my HKS CBE along with some Z1 HFCs. I was hoping my new SPL end links would be here so I could get it all done at once, but no such luck.

FairladyZ 11-30-2012 07:34 PM

I just got mine on today..

I had a tanabe before, I'd have to say the tanabe sounds better.

Maybe with a HFC it will make up for it.

the hks is a bit quiet, but looks wise, the hks is way nicer.


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