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Nixlimited 03-19-2012 10:41 PM

Fast Intentions w/18" Resonators Impressions + Video
 
I installed my FI exhaust this weekend with 18" resonators. Here are my early impressions and a video.

Packaging: Came in one large box and everything was bubble wrapped and taped very securely. Even though I believe UPS could ruin anything, this packaging should survive all but the worst (think Jim Carrey in Ace Ventura) delivery man.

Quality: Everything looked awesome. As others have noted, the welds appear to be ground down on the inside of the pipes which should make for the smoothest flow possible. I didn't have any dings or scratches, and the bends looked great.

Install: Honestly, I spent an hour getting my old exhaust off due to several uncooperative bolts, and about 15 minutes getting the FI on. The install was very straight forward and due to the tight tolerances FI obviously keeps, everything went together smoothly. Highly recommend having an impact hammer with a variety of extensions including wobbly headed extensions. Should help get to tight OEM bolts and nuts. For the install part, I would suggest installing the hangers on the exhaust pieces before bolting everything up. Made it easier once everything was together. One thing to note regarding tip spacing at the rear. When I first installed my right tip was a bit higher than my left. Per the instructions, I shimmed it down with two washers, which made it perfect. Then I drove around a bit and when I came back, now the right slightly lower by about a mm. So, lesson learned, give it a quick spin and let everything settle before adjusting. The instructions probably say that, but I honestly didn't really read them.

Sound: I have the 18" resonators and the exhaust note is fantastic. It's very, very reasonable at both idle and kicking around town. You get a bit more cabin noise, as is to be expected, but I haven't noticed any obvious or unbearable drone. To be 100% honest, I am wondering if I should have gone with the 12" resonators since I have had past cars with fairly agressive exhausts and this is the most sedate. I'm not at all disappointed with what I have, but I wouldn't mind a little more of a good thing! I think the car sounds a bit like a BPU Supra now, sans the turbo noise (which i hope to remedy in the future :driving:).

Constructive feedback: The only thing I would change about the kit is the hardware. I am, of course, very happy to support American made products, but it is a bit annoying to have to get out 2x the tools because all the OEM hardware is metric and all the hardware that comes with the FI is English. Very small suggestion. Likewise, I could have used a bit more heat wrap for the gas purge line. The bit I got barely fit around the line and even though I am sure there is nothing to worry about, I would have preferred to wrap more of it. With that said, the fact that heat wrap comes at all was impressive to me.

Thanks Tony and FI for a great product! :tiphat:

And here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QsxMcDJRCc

Trips 03-19-2012 10:46 PM

Nice to see Another satisfied customer :)

jpritche 03-19-2012 10:47 PM

:tiphat: Hats off to F.I.

It is good to hear that you are satisfied. I have the 12" and I love it. I sometimes wonder if I want the non-resonated :stirthepot:

Trips 03-19-2012 10:55 PM

Op, I had fixed it for you already, anyway its fixed :)

XwChriswX 03-19-2012 11:02 PM

It's not the 12" Resonators you need, it's the Long Tube Headers. :stirthepot:


:tup:

jpritche 03-19-2012 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1609441)
It's not the 12" Resonators you need, it's the Long Tube Headers. :stirthepot:


:tup:

:iagree: Sounds AMAZING on Cwis' car!

XwChriswX 03-19-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 1609447)
:iagree: Sounds AMAZING on Cwis' car!

Thanks bud. :tiphat:

jpritche 03-19-2012 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1609456)
Thanks bud. :tiphat:

Anytime man. Tried to give you rep for badass headers...but it wouldn't let me hahah

Nixlimited 03-20-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1609441)
It's not the 12" Resonators you need, it's the Long Tube Headers. :stirthepot:


:tup:

Haha. As I plan to go with a SC kit sometime this year, the LTH are not the best option for me. Were I staying NA, that would be next.

Omikron 03-20-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1609441)
It's not the 12" Resonators you need, it's the Long Tube Headers. :stirthepot:


:tup:

I am pondering these myself since I have the 12" FI now. How bad is the smell with no Cat?

The Dimer 03-20-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1609441)
It's not the 12" Resonators you need, it's the Long Tube Headers. :stirthepot:

That's why I settled on the 18" when I ordered mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omikron (Post 1609441)
I am pondering these myself since I have the 12" FI now. How bad is the smell with no Cat?

There is a guy here in Chicago that has 18" resonators with long tube headers. I asked him about them on ChicagoZ and he said that it's not that bad, even while sitting at a stop light. I hope to be able to find him at a meet to decide for myself.

ZMan8 03-20-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 1610802)
That's why I settled on the 18" when I ordered mine.



There is a guy here in Chicago that has 18" resonators with long tube headers. I asked him about them on ChicagoZ and he said that it's not that bad, even while sitting at a stop light. I hope to be able to find him at a meet to decide for myself.

haha, Yeah I need to see his setup too before I go that route.

Omikron 03-20-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 1610802)
That's why I settled on the 18" when I ordered mine.



There is a guy here in Chicago that has 18" resonators with long tube headers. I asked him about them on ChicagoZ and he said that it's not that bad, even while sitting at a stop light. I hope to be able to find him at a meet to decide for myself.

Ya, not bad to some people is horrid to me. One big wiff at a light and I am sneezing my arse off, not to mention I just don't want my clothes to smell like exhaust the rest of the day ;) Let me know what you think if you ever catch up to the guy. Thanks.

Speedy 03-20-2012 04:17 PM

Nice man. A 15 minute install, that's gotta be some kind of record. You do it on stands or a lift?

Makes me anxious to get mine. Should be here in about a month or so.

Nixlimited 03-20-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1610931)
Nice man. A 15 minute install, that's gotta be some kind of record. You do it on stands or a lift?

Makes me anxious to get mine. Should be here in about a month or so.

I did it on stands and I had a helping hand so that makes a difference. But really, the exhaust is made so well that you don't really have to adjust anything. Just install hardware and tighten.

anthonyy 03-20-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1610941)
I did it on stands and I had a helping hand so that makes a difference. But really, the exhaust is made so well that you don't really have to adjust anything. Just install hardware and tighten.

good to hear! I'm putting mine on this weekend with the help of a buddy and his lift. That means after removing the stock, everything should be done in 5 mins right? :tup:

Speedy 03-20-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1610941)
I did it on stands and I had a helping hand so that makes a difference. But really, the exhaust is made so well that you don't really have to adjust anything. Just install hardware and tighten.

Cool, I'll be doing mine on stands as well. Some body said it took them 5 hours or something and I was like :eek: Maybe there's something I don't know about this exhaust LOL

Nixlimited 03-20-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1610965)
Cool, I'll be doing mine on stands as well. Some body said it took them 5 hours or something and I was like :eek: Maybe there's something I don't know about this exhaust LOL

Haha, well, let me make sure I am being clear with everyone. It took me about 30 minutes to get the car up on stands. Then it took about 1-1.5 hours to remove the OEM exhaust due to having several uncooperative bolts/nuts. Then it took about 15-20 minutes to put on the FI exhaust. It's SUPER easy once the OEM is off.

ZMan8 03-20-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1610965)
Cool, I'll be doing mine on stands as well. Some body said it took them 5 hours or something and I was like :eek: Maybe there's something I don't know about this exhaust LOL

5 haha. I would say 2 at most for someone new to it

Speedy 03-20-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1611006)
5 haha. I would say 2 at most for someone new to it

That's what I was thinking, but someone stated in a CBE how to question thread a while back that it takes longer and were surprised I did the one on my Challenger in about an hour.....well an hour to install..then lots of tweaking to get the tips level but I'm OCD LOL

Ages 03-20-2012 07:51 PM

Took me 4 hrs. But I used all hand tools.

icormba 03-20-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1611243)
That's what I was thinking, but someone stated in a CBE how to question thread a while back that it takes longer and were surprised I did the one on my Challenger in about an hour.....well an hour to install..then lots of tweaking to get the tips level but I'm OCD LOL

Thinking of this thread maybe?
http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...haust-diy.html

For me, it took just under 3 hours... I usually don't rush things though. Took me almost 2 days (~12-16hours) to do my timing belt on my Z32 ;)

Speedy 03-20-2012 08:46 PM

Hand tools, what are those?

LOL

LakeShow 03-20-2012 10:02 PM

Hahaha I was watching this video earlier when I found it randomly on YouTube and was like that grey with the 40th brakes looks familiar. Now I know its yours lol. The F.I. sounds much better and deeper.

XwChriswX 03-21-2012 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1610076)
Haha. As I plan to go with a SC kit sometime this year, the LTH are not the best option for me. Were I staying NA, that would be next.

Why would these not be better for an SC? :ugh2:

More Flow = More Power.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Omikron (Post 1610354)
I am pondering these myself since I have the 12" FI now. How bad is the smell with no Cat?

You don't really smell it at all, even standing behind it at idle. During any driving you won't notice it. When you pull up to a stop, if you have the windows down you get a nice waft of it, just a hint to remind you, you're not stock. :stirthepot: But not so obnoxious that you can't breathe. :tup: I like it.

Omikron 03-21-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1612118)
Why would these not be better for an SC? :ugh2:

More Flow = More Power.




You don't really smell it at all, even standing behind it at idle. During any driving you won't notice it. When you pull up to a stop, if you have the windows down you get a nice waft of it, just a hint to remind you, you're not stock. :stirthepot: But not so obnoxious that you can't breathe. :tup: I like it.

Well you do have a gas mask on though...

Just kidding, thanks.

VossenG37s 03-21-2012 07:54 AM

Great exhaust i love mine:)

Nixlimited 03-21-2012 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1611684)
Hahaha I was watching this video earlier when I found it randomly on YouTube and was like that grey with the 40th brakes looks familiar. Now I know its yours lol. The F.I. sounds much better and deeper.

Nice! As of 2013, my car will not longer be distinguishable ... damn it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1612118)
Why would these not be better for an SC? :ugh2:
More Flow = More Power.

I agree that more flow = more power. I should have been more clear. Three things are keeping me away from LTHs: (1) the possibility that I may go turbo instead; (2) the fact that I am in CA and going catless here is asking for trouble; and (3) as has been discussed on here, the GTM SC kit and LTHs have not been shown to work great together.

Huck 03-21-2012 09:34 AM

Sounds great man, congrats! I ordered the FI non res'd CBE/LTH combo myself. I don't really mind it being loud, as long as its not 1250hp mustang loud lol. I don't get mine till mid June though :(

So the LTH's don't work out for a turbo setup?


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Nixlimited 03-21-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Huck (Post 1612349)
Sounds great man, congrats! I ordered the FI non res'd CBE/LTH combo myself. I don't really mind it being loud, as long as its not 1250hp mustang loud lol. I don't get mine till mid June though :(

So the LTH's don't work out for a turbo setup?

No they don't work on a turbo setup because the turbos are mounted right off a short exhaust manifold to spool them as efficiently as possible. There is nothing mechanically preventing them from working with the SC setup; however, the results thus far haven't been very good.

roplusbee 03-21-2012 02:07 PM

Took us about 3 hours at Mike's due to having to cut one of the demon bolts out. Once the demon was exercised, it took all of 15 mins (with time for beer).

XwChriswX 03-21-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omikron (Post 1612228)
Well you do have a gas mask on though...

Just kidding, thanks.

That's just to protect your eyes from my ugly mug. :tup: :rofl2:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1612314)
I agree that more flow = more power. I should have been more clear. Three things are keeping me away from LTHs: (1) the possibility that I may go turbo instead; (2) the fact that I am in CA and going catless here is asking for trouble; and (3) as has been discussed on here, the GTM SC kit and LTHs have not been shown to work great together.

1. This is my current debate, I have the headers, and would prefer to go turbo one day myself. As soon as FI's kit goes full production. :tup:

2. I can agree with you there, but you could get a Catted Y-Pipe made if you wanted, I think Motordyne does it if I'm not mistaken. But I can understand your discomfort with Cali's over-anal car laws. :shakes head:

3. They did work together, just the problem was the SC couldn't move enough air to keep the system produing power through the powerband. It's not a problem of SC+Header. The SC just needs to be bigger to allow for the increased flow with the freer flowing exhaust. As for the Stage II decable, there has still not been any definiative proof posted as they don't work. Don't let anyone fool you. No one has ordered both and tested to see if yes or no they haven't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck (Post 1612349)
So the LTH's don't work out for a turbo setup?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1612417)
No they don't work on a turbo setup because the turbos are mounted right off a short exhaust manifold to spool them as efficiently as possible. There is nothing mechanically preventing them from working with the SC setup; however, the results thus far haven't been very good.

:iagree:

The SC/LTH setup just needs more tuning with a more powerful SC. But in theory, you could have the LTH's and a turbo if you wanted to try the STS kit. :tup: Or any other Single Turbo setup. :icon08: Hmmm...

Speedy 03-22-2012 09:50 AM

Is there information anywhere about FI turbo setup?

TerribleONE 03-22-2012 09:56 AM

Nothing really yet! But I can tell you that its going to be sick and raise the bar for TT kits!! All the parts have been in and they are working on it! Stay tuned for a teaser thread very soon I would guess. I cant wait to get my car back!! :excited:

KaienZ34 03-22-2012 10:10 AM

Sorry for the dumb question, but i got my FI catback used and i didn't get the heat wrap. How much would i need to get, where is the gas line that it goes on and does anyone have a pic of the line it goes on. :tiphat:

Nixlimited 03-22-2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1614328)
Sorry for the dumb question, but i got my FI catback used and i didn't get the heat wrap. How much would i need to get, where is the gas line that it goes on and does anyone have a pic of the line it goes on. :tiphat:

If you still have the instructions, it will show you the line. It's basically the line closest to the passenger side muffler. If not, buzz Tony and I am sure he will send you a copy of the instructions.

KaienZ34 03-22-2012 10:23 AM

Cool deal man thanks.

Z_Girl 03-22-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 1609390)
:tiphat: Hats off to F.I.

It is good to hear that you are satisfied. I have the 12" and I love it. I sometimes wonder if I want the non-resonated :stirthepot:

That's went for!...Hurry up June, I'm ready for my install apt! ;)

Speedy 03-22-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1614293)
Nothing really yet! But I can tell you that its going to be sick and raise the bar for TT kits!! All the parts have been in and they are working on it! Stay tuned for a teaser thread very soon I would guess. I cant wait to get my car back!! :excited:

Do you know if it's top mount or ?

Nixlimited 03-22-2012 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1614477)
Do you know if it's top mount or ?

I have no idea, but if it's going to be a good kit, and not a show kit, I would HIGHLY doubt it. No sense in all that extra piping in addition to the performance loss from moving the turbos away from their power source.


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