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LaSeeno 04-19-2010 03:55 PM

The 370z isn't the most expensive car around but I think it deserves better than the muffler delete treatment. Come on guys, have a little pride.

Gunzero 04-19-2010 04:01 PM

^Want to pay for my college? How about a CBE..

Gunzero 04-19-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by batman_4 (Post 503871)
where in texas are you?

I'm here in Big Spring, Texas.. Nobody can do it for me. :*(

LaSeeno 04-19-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 503991)
^Want to pay for my college? How about a CBE..

Why would I want to pay for your college? I don't know. I would be embarrassed to be seen without a muffler. It just looks trashy to EVERYONE besides the few who actually do it.

It's like seeing a Honda with an unpainted body kit. Please, just don't do it.

theDreamer 04-19-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 503994)
I'm here in Big Spring, Texas.. Nobody can do it for me. :*(

Wow, you really are in the middle of nowhere Texas.
Best bet would be to find a shop in Austin or San Antonio.

batman_4 04-19-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LaSeeno (Post 504001)
I would be embarrassed to be seen without a muffler. It just looks trashy to EVERYONE besides the few who actually do it.

It's like seeing a Honda with an unpainted body kit. Please, just don't do it.

that is why you get custom piping and tips.

batman_4 04-19-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 503994)
I'm here in Big Spring, Texas.. Nobody can do it for me. :*(

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 504009)
Wow, you really are in the middle of nowhere Texas.

+1 :icon14:

Gunzero, what college you plan on going too?

Gunzero 04-19-2010 04:30 PM

@theDreamer: Yea.. :/ This town sucks. There are 3 370z here though.. 2 red and one white.
@batman_4: I am going to UTPB fall of this year. I barely graduated last year from high school.
@LaSeeno:
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Originally Posted by batman_4 (Post 504033)
that is why you get custom piping and tips.

[Looking for]: Still looking for someone to make me custom tips.

NewlyIMPORTed 04-19-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 503991)
^Want to pay for my college? How about a CBE..

welcome to the democrat party!!

fatcat777 04-19-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed (Post 504093)
welcome to the democrat party!!

:icon18: hahahaha

Gunzero 04-19-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed (Post 504093)
welcome to the democrat party!!

:eek: :ughdance:

Zsteve 04-19-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 503849)
Can anybody fab me up some pipes.. I live in the middle of freaking nowhere and I would love to have some pipes. I'm saving up money for college and this would be a nice way to change the soft note of the stock exhaust without spending much.

Not trying to be flaming or anything but did you buy the car or your parents? If you are paying the payments and trying to save for college then maybe you over bought at this point and time. If parents are paying the note then I guess you might want to wait on mods till you can afford them. College first!

Gunzero 04-19-2010 09:18 PM

My parents bought it for me.. well for graduation they bought me the TRD 5.0 Scion tC.. was too slow so they got me the Z, but yea college first. However, I would really love to wake up the Z!

Csquared 04-19-2010 09:19 PM

I did it cause I can't stand how quiet the stock exhaust is. And i can't mod my car for 6 months cause if I do I have to pay 85% tax on it. So you do the calculation of 85% tax on a 5ziegen or Amuse CBE. 85% on the $1 of washers I used is doable though lol.

Gunzero 04-19-2010 09:43 PM

^lol can you post a sound clip for me with that mod? I might have to do that since I can't seem to find anybody to make me custom tips. ffs.

Csquared 04-19-2010 10:00 PM

Sounds just like the first post. I think it's fine almost no drone, it's only crazy loud when i start the car in the morning.

I'm worried about damaging the parts under the car cause of the hot gases leaking out though. So it's def a temp thing.

Gunzero 04-19-2010 10:05 PM

Ah yea, That's why I want some custom tips.. :/ sadly my resources are limited since I live nowhere close to anybody that would do it. It would be nice to have someone fabricate it for me and ship it.. but whatever. :(

Push370zzz 04-21-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 497725)
No, I'd call you a poser. But it's the same basic concept as a ricer. This mod is all show, no go, that's what's wrong with it. It's about making your car sound more powerful without actually being more powerful. I could be wrong, but nobody has done a before/after dyno to test for gains. But that's no surprise, because posers don't care about real gains, right? So why would a poser go through the trouble of doing dyno testing? Anyway, like I said, I'm just expressing my personal opinion. We can agree to disagree. If this "mod" floats your boat, more power to you. Maybe for your next mod, you can fake having a six-pack like this guy:

Not to get into an argument on the internet, but it really didn't make sense to get a full exhaust system on a car that already has 400hp and weighs 6000lbs, where a 20 HP gain means almost nothing. It sounded really good how it was, and I just wanted it louder...so that's what I did. I didn't even know you could rice out a $90k car. On the Z, however, if I mod it it's because I want it to be faster...so I will spring for a real exhaust mod. Money is obviously not an issue for me, but value is. $100 to get the sound I want, versus $2000 for the same sound and maybe 10whp?

theDreamer 04-21-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 506655)
Not to get into an argument on the internet, but it really didn't make sense to get a full exhaust system on a car that already has 400hp and weighs 6000lbs, where a 20 HP gain means almost nothing. It sounded really good how it was, and I just wanted it louder...so that's what I did. I didn't even know you could rice out a $90k car. On the Z, however, if I mod it it's because I want it to be faster...so I will spring for a real exhaust mod. Money is obviously not an issue for me, but value is. $100 to get the sound I want, versus $2000 for the same sound and maybe 10whp? Maybe one day you will learn a little bit about the value of the dollar, but until then the only real poser is you buddy....

Wow, you could not be more wrong on everything.
The point of modding is to show respect for your car (a), and to do what you like (b). Now it is your car and I have no matter in telling you what to do, but I would hope buying a 90,000USD car and just doing a muffler delete you would understand how stupid that is.

Also, where are you getting your numbers from? 2,000USD for an exhaust system that gains 10whp? I dropped under 1,000USD and the exhaust has proven gains of 15-20, many are dropping at most 1,500USD and getting equal or slightly better gains. For less money and far more gains than what you seem to claim to. The value of money seems to be wasted on you, why did you spend 90,000USD just to devalue it with a cheap modification? Come back when you have a valid counter point and not just grasping at straws.

nuTinmuch 04-21-2010 10:20 AM

And all this time I thought the entire purpose of modding was to make a car better for the person behind the wheel.

Why is this even being argued about? Whatever floats your boat, just stay the **** away from mine.

phelan 04-21-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch (Post 506678)
And all this time I thought the entire purpose of modding was to make a car better for the person behind the wheel.

Why is this even being argued about? Whatever floats your boat, just stay the **** away from mine.

i'm coming for you to drill sum holes in ur mufflers...:stirthepot:

:roflpuke2:

370Zsteve 04-21-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jtown82 (Post 498620)
it usually is ricer mentality to pay for things because they dont have the ingenuity to come up with modifications themselves so its understandable.

on a side note. the washer method works well. tried it. and its a very good blend of sound. It sounds almost stock under normal driving and only around 60+ can you really hear the exhaust over the wind/road noise. but under heavy acceleration it sounds really nice and very clean.

:facepalm:

:drama:

370Zsteve 04-21-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero (Post 504507)
My parents bought it for me.. well for graduation they bought me the TRD 5.0 Scion tC.. was too slow so they got me the Z, but yea college first. However, I would really love to wake up the Z!

Your parents bought you a $30k+ car? Tell the cheap bashtards to cough up for a catback, Bubba.

Gunzero 04-21-2010 02:30 PM

Decided to just wait till I graduate before I spend money on car. Got more important things in life :)

nuTinmuch 04-21-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 506698)
i'm coming for you to drill sum holes in ur mufflers...:stirthepot:

:roflpuke2:

ohshiiii

Push370zzz 04-22-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 506665)
Wow, you could not be more wrong on everything.
The point of modding is to show respect for your car (a), and to do what you like (b). Now it is your car and I have no matter in telling you what to do, but I would hope buying a 90,000USD car and just doing a muffler delete you would understand how stupid that is.

Also, where are you getting your numbers from? 2,000USD for an exhaust system that gains 10whp? I dropped under 1,000USD and the exhaust has proven gains of 15-20, many are dropping at most 1,500USD and getting equal or slightly better gains. For less money and far more gains than what you seem to claim to. The value of money seems to be wasted on you, why did you spend 90,000USD just to devalue it with a cheap modification? Come back when you have a valid counter point and not just grasping at straws.

The ONLY point of modding is to:
a) Make something more desirable than the stock form. That may be sound, power, gas mileage, whatever.

Some people do it for themselves (like me), others do it to impress others. I don't really care where you fall. I'm with you little buddy, if I mod the Z it's because I want more power, so I will spring for the real exhaust. The $2k exhaust for 10whp I was talking about was (obviously) for the Range. On the Range Rover I just wanted it a little bit louder, not more power because I don't intend on racing it...because it's an SUV...that I drive in the Winter...when there's snow...where hp gains don't really matter. So I could either:

a) Spend 2 grand on an exhaust with minimal if any gains.
b) Spend $100 to have the muffler deleted and get the sound I want.

What to do.
:gtfo2:

Push370zzz 04-22-2010 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 506698)
i'm coming for you to drill sum holes in ur mufflers...:stirthepot:

:roflpuke2:

Haha...I remember years ago my friends doing that to their gopeds. All it did was help the cops more easily figure out where they were

Vegasboricua 07-13-2010 08:45 PM

How did you guys manage to get those 4 nuts loose? Ive been tryin all afternoon on and off to get them off and I can't. I used wrenches and a socket wrench 14mm. Im starting to strip the nuts so I stopped. Can you guys shed some light on how you removed these ? thanks.

Trips 07-13-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegasboricua (Post 622616)
How did you guys manage to get those 4 nuts loose? Ive been tryin all afternoon on and off to get them off and I can't. I used wrenches and a socket wrench 14mm. Im starting to strip the nuts so I stopped. Can you guys shed some light on how you removed these ? thanks.

I just walked in, but what bolts exactly?

m4a1mustang 07-13-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegasboricua (Post 622616)
How did you guys manage to get those 4 nuts loose? Ive been tryin all afternoon on and off to get them off and I can't. I used wrenches and a socket wrench 14mm. Im starting to strip the nuts so I stopped. Can you guys shed some light on how you removed these ? thanks.

Hit them with some PB Blaster if you have any and let it sit for a few minutes. If you don't have PB Blaster, use WD40. A breaker bar will be very helpful. Those things are torqued on super tight. :tup:

Vegasboricua 07-13-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 622717)
Hit them with some PB Blaster if you have any and let it sit for a few minutes. If you don't have PB Blaster, use WD40. A breaker bar will be very helpful. Those things are torqued on super tight. :tup:

I used wd-40 still nothing. Im using a regular wrench I picked up at auto zone. I also tried socket wrench as well. I guess Ill be picking up a breaker bar tommarow and giving that a shot.

m4a1mustang 07-13-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegasboricua (Post 622728)
I used wd-40 still nothing. Im using a regular wrench I picked up at auto zone. I also tried socket wrench as well. I guess Ill be picking up a breaker bar tommarow and giving that a shot.

Yep, you definitely need a breaker bar. That extra leverage will help. I used a 24" Kobalt 1/2" drive to loosen the bolts... even with that it was pretty tough.

Vegasboricua 07-13-2010 09:56 PM

alright thanks! Where did you pick it up? How much did it run you?

Xan 07-13-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 622717)
Hit them with some PB Blaster if you have any and let it sit for a few minutes. If you don't have PB Blaster, use WD40. A breaker bar will be very helpful. Those things are torqued on super tight. :tup:

:iagree: Also you can hit the bolts with a hammer. Sometimes the vibration gets the bolts to "unstuck"

Trips 07-13-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 622746)
:iagree: Also you can hit the bolts with a hammer. Sometimes the vibration gets the bolts to "unstuck"

or a large rubber mallet.

m4a1mustang 07-13-2010 10:05 PM

I wouldn't hit the bolt directly, but you can hit the ratchet or wrench to get a little bit of an impact gun action. I have to do that to break the caliper bolts loose because I can't really get that much leverage inside the wheel wells. Just don't whack it too hard!

But the breaker bar is going to be your best bet. :D

Vegasboricua 07-13-2010 10:14 PM

Alright thanks for all the input guys! +1 rep to you all! Ill go out to lowes and buy the breaker bar. If that doesnt work im just going to give up. Did you guys jack the car up when you did this?

Xan 07-13-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 622762)
I wouldn't hit the bolt directly, but you can hit the ratchet or wrench to get a little bit of an impact gun action. I have to do that to break the caliper bolts loose because I can't really get that much leverage inside the wheel wells. Just don't whack it too hard!

But the breaker bar is going to be your best bet. :D

Why wouldn't you hit the bolt directly? :confused:

A rubber mallet is pretty good as well, but there is really no problem just giving the bolts some good taps...

But agreed on the breaker bar! :tup:

m4a1mustang 07-13-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegasboricua (Post 622789)
Alright thanks for all the input guys! +1 rep to you all! Ill go out to lowes and buy the breaker bar. If that doesnt work im just going to give up. Did you guys jack the car up when you did this?

Yes I jacked the rear of the car up for my exhaust install.

m4a1mustang 07-13-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 622790)
Why wouldn't you hit the bolt directly? :confused:

A rubber mallet is pretty good as well, but there is really no problem just giving the bolts some good taps...

I just wouldn't want to damage it.


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