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Vince@R/T 03-30-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BLM (Post 1020724)
^^^ Very informative! So if I'm reading this correctly, Mustang dyno's may read high, low, or accurately, whereas Dynojet's are more comparable from dyno to dyno...

IIRC, stock 370Z's hit the dynoJet's at around 270-275 whp, which is approximately 19-20% drivetrain loss. That makes sense to me.

Unless you're in the 1000 hp club, and at a dyno day to show off grotesque power numbers, I think it's important to remember that the dyno is ultimately a tool for tuning.

^^ Yes sir dynojets are all calibrated at the factory and the shipped out to the shops, and there is no adjustment parameters for the shops. I really like both the dynos alot, and give custmers the option to decide which one they want. Usually they just ask us what is best and we lead them in the right direction. Also our dyno jet is only 2wd so when it comes to the AWD cars they all go on the mustang. We just did a G37X with all the bolt ons and we ended up with 305whp on the mustang...

abgyak 03-30-2011 09:55 AM

I can see that uprev is popular there in the US... anyone ever tried using FCON V Pro or FCON IS? wonder what increase u can get with a Tuned FCON....

BLM 03-30-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by abgyak (Post 1020816)
I can see that uprev is popular there in the US... anyone ever tried using FCON V Pro or FCON IS? wonder what increase u can get with a Tuned FCON....


Is that the Amuse ECU? Isn't that just a straight replacement of the factory ecu? UpRev is popular since it can be tuned with each modification as you go. It's most cost effective to save until the end once all the breather mods are done.

The VVEL code tuning will be the biggest breathrough in terms of ECU tuning and how much power can be gained. The UpRev really just smooths out the AFR and maybe plays with the timing a little. And of course, manages boost in FI applications. It's definitely nice to have once you have done full intake and exhaust mods.

abgyak 03-30-2011 10:02 AM

Its HKS Bro, HKS USA F-CON V Pro Ver 3.3 (more)

If someone can tune uprev here in my country, would definitely consider in having one.. read lots of good reviews on them...

BLM 03-30-2011 10:11 AM

As tuning goes, I've heard that it's very user friendly. In fact, the reviews I've heard from people who are professionals and know what they're doing say it's one of the best.

The worst: Greddy E-manage, AEM Stand Alone, Haltech

Jordo! 03-30-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLM (Post 1020724)
^^^ Very informative! So if I'm reading this correctly, Mustang dyno's may read high, low, or accurately, whereas Dynojet's are more comparable from dyno to dyno...

IIRC, stock 370Z's hit the dynoJet's at around 270-275 whp, which is approximately 19-20% drivetrain loss. That makes sense to me.

Unless you're in the 1000 hp club, and at a dyno day to show off grotesque power numbers, I think it's important to remember that the dyno is ultimately a tool for tuning.

This is why I've said elsewhere that Mustangs and other load bearing dynos can either break hearts OR lift spirits -- there's too many fudge factors.

This is also why I pretty much only go by dynojets for determining power figures.

Load bearing dynos are better for tuning, tho.

Kastley85891 04-03-2011 01:48 PM

I go to the dyno just to compare (roughly) against my base run to give an idea of specific mod gain/loss,, I actually prefer to tune on the road, although granted this is a tough scenario for many obvious reasons, I feel I get a better 'all round' tune out of the vehicle.
Just my personal pref, I know guys who swear by dynos for everything and I agree they are a great tool, but don't read to to much into the result, go by feel after ward, peak power is such a small factor in an all round set up.

Oh OP - 296 best I have seen, baseline 276

Red__Zed 04-03-2011 05:04 PM

subscribing for info

Footloose301 04-16-2011 08:54 PM

I'll get a dyno run in after the GTM Res TP that are getting installed soon. I have Stillen G3 and HKS Hi Power right now. I'll skip pulleys for now. I never did a baseline...

ipitythefoo 05-02-2011 06:25 PM

well I made about 352 on a dynapack (which reads a little higher) with my G37 (I think it has a less agressive tune) with Kinetix HFC (For sale btw), Stillen Gen 3, and Invidia Gemini Exhaust.

370Z JT 05-02-2011 09:37 PM

352 is crazy high.

tomnavone 05-02-2011 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ipitythefoo (Post 1085986)
well I made about 352 on a dynapack (which reads a little higher) with my G37 (I think it has a less agressive tune) with Kinetix HFC (For sale btw), Stillen Gen 3, and Invidia Gemini Exhaust.

Post your graphs

Jordo! 05-04-2011 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ipitythefoo (Post 1085986)
well I made about 352 on a dynapack (which reads a little higher) with my G37 (I think it has a less agressive tune) with Kinetix HFC (For sale btw), Stillen Gen 3, and Invidia Gemini Exhaust.

That dyno operator should get flowers and a thank you card.

Kingbaby 05-04-2011 06:08 AM

Always get a baseline. Other than that your always gonna get folks hating on your numbers. If possible save a little extra for dyno pulls after any new part install.

07 350z - 264.5whp 234.7wtq - Dynapack

ipitythefoo 05-08-2011 05:17 PM

here you guys go. He said I did relatively well in respect to the other G's that he dynoed with the similar mods. He said they made around ~320-325. However, I am running pretty damn lean, but it doesn't show on the graph. The torque curve is horrible though, but I'm getting a tune soon.

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...1n0m3/Scan.jpg

Red__Zed 05-08-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1088965)
That dyno operator should get flowers and a thank you card.

:icon18:

Footloose301 05-08-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1088965)
That dyno operator should get flowers and a thank you card.

:inoutroflpuke:

jazz 05-09-2011 01:36 PM

footloose...what numbers are you running?

ive not got a dyno run yet..i do have:
stillen headers, cats and G2 intake with hks CBE and UpRev

any ideas what numbers i should see?

Footloose301 05-09-2011 05:01 PM

I havent gotten it on a dyno yet. I have the Stillen G3 intake, HKS HI POWER TI, and GTM resonated test pipes. I should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 310-320whp depending on the dyno. A mustang dyno might put me at just 290 or so. Each dyno is different.

jazz 05-10-2011 10:04 AM

so is it safe to say i would be around that number too?

Kingbaby 05-11-2011 05:24 AM

that's why a baseline dyno is crucial


Also dynoing on the same dyno keeps the gains you see somewhat factual.

Baer383 05-11-2011 05:34 AM

I've got 305hp 245tq w/7at trans Dyno jet dyno @ Z1 motorsports

Stillen Gen 3
Fast intentions HFC's
Fast intentions CBE 18in resonators.

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/IMG_0015.jpg

wstar 05-11-2011 07:32 AM

I think we've all got 300rwhp on the right dyno in the right weather. Dynos vary so much that absolute numbers are virtually meaningless for comparison between different cars/dynos/regions. Before/after on your own car is useful, but even then I've recently been psyched out by weather changes making a larger difference than mods.

jazz 05-11-2011 09:23 AM

like thinkness of the air? hot cool days?

wstar 05-11-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1103124)
like thinkness of the air? hot cool days?

Here's a calculator, play with the numbers yourself. Between two dyno runs at the same location many months apart (different seasons), this calculator claimed that conditions accounted for a ~15hp difference in my car's dyno runs:

Dyno Correction Factor Calculator

Then you add in the fact that different dyno brands use different physics methods for measuring torque, some dyno charts use SAE correction and some don't, some mfgs are just known to read higher or lower, some dyno shops adjust their machines higher or lower, or simply fail to calibrate regularly at all and just let it drift over time.... I could go on.

ANMVQ 05-11-2011 11:23 AM

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7 Spd AT, AWD, And Exoticspeed CBE, Stillen Gen 3's and Kaizen tune on a Mustang Dyno.

ANMVQ 05-11-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1099314)
I havent gotten it on a dyno yet. I have the Stillen G3 intake, HKS HI POWER TI, and GTM resonated test pipes. I should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 310-320whp depending on the dyno. A mustang dyno might put me at just 290 or so. Each dyno is different.

You should see more, My numbers on a a mustang dyno, Very little correction, Was very cool out and no humidity.


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