一体何だ？

そうそう、バブルはじける前の日本しかよく分からんですなあ。今の日本人わけ分からん。

今回なぜマフラーのみにしたかというと下のトルクをなくしたくなかったのと音の面であんまり深くしたくなか った。　

本心あんまりzは弄らないで乗りたくってね。　今までの車は結構弄ってきたのでそろそろ
弄り疲れたというか。　一つ何か弄るとまた何か弄らないといけなくなるでしょ。それが
面倒でねえ。　限られた時間しか無いし。　

ノーマルでg35cみたいな音してくれたら弄らないで済むんだけど。

To be fair, people can go on about value for money and how the fujimura is 'just 2 pipes' but is it? It depends what you're after. I specifically only want to alter the sound and i'm not bothered about increasing perfomormance because that would alter my insurance massively for the worse.

I want more volume and depth and I think the washer mod is a bit 'pikey'. AAM S-line short tail acts as a muffler delete and by the sounds of the reviews on here it seems like it would be too loud and is in need of a slight muffling... and this leaves you into looking at the Fujimura. How is it different in complexity to any other axle-back?? Akrapovic do an axle-back (albeit titanium) but that is outrageously more expensive.
The fujimura looks absolutely class IMO - it's larger tailpipes and slanted angle and retains the stock image to a certain degree in my opinion blue burnt thin-cut tips look strange on a car like the Z.
In my mind if changing the axle-back part alters the sound and it's the sound you want is it not ok to pay $900 dollars for it as you just don't need a catback at $1400+?. There's no point spending more if you don't need more. Also importing an exhaust that weighs less and costs less incurs less tax, import duty and less in shipping so to anyone who lives on this side of the Pond it is massively cheaper!
The only problem is from vids it's very hard to see if it is the sound you want.

Kenchan has been known to make house calls, for sound purposes, but you're across pond and he hasn't installed his water wings yet.

I agree with you on the exhaust washer trick. Plus, the exhaust will eventually coat the rear undercarriage with the same soot that the edges of the exhaust tips suffer from.

i dont now why Megan hasn't jumped on the axlebacks for our cars. i think those taiwanese folks can make a similar product for around $350-450. probably wont sound the same (most of their exhaust sounds like arospeed cheezeball mufflers) but at least it would be an alternative for someone that just wants more sound and has no money.

btw the Fujimura's exhaust tips are quite a bit bigger than stock. they look great. :)

For me I'm not too concerned about spending money if it's going to give me the right product and isn't more than I need. I think it'll probably be the Tanabe based really on seeing what it's like inside and out...

YouTube - Brn370z Tanabe Exhaust - Normal Driving + DownShifts

Does the Fujimura sound anything like this from in the cabin?

I was just wondering whether the Fujimura will be louder, quieter, raspier, not as deep, droney etc. Has anyone heard both to compare?

Both the Tanabe and the Fujimura - with their 115mm large round non-stickyout tailpipes both look awesome.

Yes. It is two muffled tail pipes. Less than $200 worth of parts sold for over a grand.

Oh, and of course the priceless JDM mystique :rolleyes:

Kenchan implied I'm too cheap to own the car, which is what I responded to (my PB&J comment :icon17: ). My point is, if your gonna spend a thousand bucks, get more than 200 bucks worth of stuff for it.

If he likes it -- awesome. It's his money.

You guys really think that Rocket Dancer developed some sort of incredibly unique and awesome sound for those two exit pipes that cannot be duplicated for a penny less? Okay, spend away then :tup:

You will note I have never blasted anyone for selling useless crap like engine covers for hundreds of dollars -- that's artsy-fartsy bling that is pretty much worth whatever someone will pay.

Two fvcking exit pipes are not worth a thousand bucks, even if fvcking Hephaestus forged them in the fires of hell. Gimmie a break.

i'll take a listen at the vid later on when i get home. the closest to the fujimura that i auditioned (via vids. :D ) was one of the Greddy catbacks...and i've mentioned this already i think. yep the outlets look great. :p

Thanks Kenchan, appreciated. For me the Fujimura will work out almost half the price than it would to import a catback, unless I go invidia but i've heard that's cheap in the way of quality.
I was lead to believe the majority of any sound comes from the muffler back section anyhow!
Maybe Jordo is correct and i should give him a break - but why would i spend more money on something i don't need if the cheaper one fulfils my criteria just because the more expensive one is better value for money. Exhausts are all depreciating items and your never going to get your money back on items like this come resale time. Its better to lose half the money is it not, as long as your happy?? Glad you like the system!

Did someone say that 97db is twice as loud as 94?

if the 900 can make you happy instead of 1500 or more i guess that's an economical choice. :tup: but again, i didnt choose the fujimura because of the price. i chose it for the sound it has. it's a nice piece and i'm happy with it.

yep 3dB is twice the sound pressure level. so a plane landing a mile away is twice louder than the fujimura next to your head. :D

The biggest overall sound change will come from replacing the cats -- anything non-resonated that replaces the OEM cats will be raspy as hell around 2500 RPM.

Changing the mufler section will affect overall tone and volume, but the change shouldn't be drastic.

As for power, other than the factory cats, the major gains, I believe, are due to swapping out the Y pipe.

Again, buy whatever you want -- I just wanted to give you a heads up that you can track down a rear muffler section that will probably sound exactly the same for a lot less. That said, if you really want the RD mufflers in particualr and have the cash, by all means, go for it.

Great stuff Jordo thanks. I would like deeper tone. is the JDM mystique an axle-back or did i misunderstand you?

I leaning towards the Tanabe but really because it sounds so deep, throaty and 'strange' on vids i've seen. It's a gamble spending money any money on something your not sure of the sound of. i set aside about £900-1000 but thhe less i spend to get a sound i'd like then the better.

Grabbed a pair of studio headphones from my sound room and listened to the vid. Kinda hard to tell...mainly because the vid is using AT. lol :D but I think the tanabe sounds deeper... The downshift sounded similar but hard to tell because the mic they used on the vid might not be that great, etc.

If you want deep sound get a catback. The reason why I got the rear section was I didn't want the deep sound but a drier clean sound. :)

Oh, I was just joking -- I mean that anything imported from Japan carries a certain "wow" factor among a certain segment of the population, who are then pleased to pay rather high prices for otherwise inexpensive goods.

I believe in Japan they have a similar fetish for US and Euro parts... grass is always greener elsewhere I suppose :icon17:

You can definitely find the Tanabe one for less than the RD exhaust, and they are essentially identical (they might even be made by the same manufacturer behind the scenes and just distributed under different brand names...).

Also, you probably could just have a shop weld up what you want by piecing it together -- there's really only a tailpipe, small muffler or resonator, connecting pipe, and a flange -- that's it!

Either way -- good luck :tiphat: