How did you get it out?? I checked both before install. Shook them both and no rattling. I believe it's a failed weld and the screen on the inside of the resonator is making the noise ..

Update: The rattle that I described earlier in this thread was NOT caused by contact with a bolt. It was coming from the exhaust system itself. However, after a few days the rattle started to die down and now I can only barely hear it during a cold start.

It is if you have an exhaust that has flex sections like our Invidia. People have been cracking Invidias using test pipes or HFCs without the brace. Getting a replacement flex section. Cracking that in a month. Getting another and then reinstalling the brace and never experiencing another crack again.

There's a thread about this from esfourteen. You have to install the brace back on.

Edit: And notice how everyone talking about rattles has an Invidia? It's no coincidence. Without the brace, you're putting too much stress on the exhaust's flex sections.

yea i read that thread. I just went by Tony's word and didnt put it on. Maybe that's why im hearing a possible leak that started 2 days ago. Will get under the car tomorrow to check it out. Will a leak at the flex joint cause the SES to go on?

Also, did you guys contact Invidia directly for the replacement flex joints?

Any picture how the brace is attached as when I ask my installer to put it on he said it's not possible some alteration is required. Does it need some new support points?

sorry to hear about that :(

You're right doccam. The ART pipes doesn't have the flanges to accommodate the oem braces. Hmmmmm.

Here's how it should look with the braces on.

http://www.amsmotorsports.com/shop/m.../berkcats1.jpg

anyone knows any solution?

Anyone have these matched with the HKS HI POWER????

I'm trying to rid my car of rasp and can't fins anyone with this combo. I'm leaning towards swapping out my HKS for an FI exhaust....

Regardless I'll be buying these ART pipes very soon. Just hope theres no rasp with the HKS.....

Wait, the brace cannot be mounted back with the ART Pipes? That's not good.

When I was under the car for the install, I don't remember seeing a way to install the oem bracket

so how people are installing it, the ones who did?

Well, they are technically more than strong enough to support themselves without the use of the OEM exhaust braces, especially when you consider the Art pipes weigh less than the OEM cats. But it is definitely extra insurance and was one of the things I like about my Berk HFCs, you don't need those braces to properly install the Art pipes however.

I was refering to installing the braces, I already have ART along with invidia running strong, but just want to install the brace for future hicups:icon17:

Test pipes are lighter than ART Pipes and they are known to crack exhausts like the Invidia if they aren't mounted with the brace. I don't think weight plays a factor.

We use ceramic beads to polish the pipes. Some of them may have found their way inside the resonator. In any case it is covered under warranty.

edit - We are now using a new fixture to keep the polishing beads out of the pipes.