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NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 01:05 PM

So what if ......
 
you bought a $1200.00 exhaust. The pics you see advertised of the exhaust is a eye catcher. You order the exhaust. You receive the exhaust. The exhaust is not as pretty as the pics. It has issues. The company you bought it from agrees to replace it with another one. So you wait ... The replacement is actually worse than the original. You call the company and they agree to discount the original for you and you ship back the replacement . You have it installed. There is some fitment issues. The shop fixes them. You drive around and there is a nasty leak sound and vibration. You take it back to the shop 5 days later and guess what ? They put it back on the lift and one of the resonators is missing a 2 inch weld. I found my leak. There is also other issues. I call the company and have a long conversation with the owner. I let him know of the problems. He is not happy. He says this is becoming a pain. Owner wanted me to take off the exhaust send it back and they will ship another one. He also stresses he is losing money and the exhaust has to come off right away so they can refurbish and sell it so he doesnt lose anymore money. Here is the catcher....
First install $90.00 . Take off the company exhaust and put on the old one another $90.00 . So far $180.00 spent in 5 days. If I wait for another exhaust and install that one there is another $90.00. A total of $270.00 . Thats not going to work for me. This goes back and forth between me and the owner and we agree that I will send it back and he will refund the price of the exhaust. I asked him to also refund the $180.00 I spent on the installs as well. He laughed . So the exhaust is off boxed and ready to be shipped back to the company .I ordered a new one from a different company . This has been a horrible experience . Am I asking to much to refund the price I paid for the installs ??? This company prides themselves on quality and fitment .:shakes head:

Cell 10-30-2010 01:10 PM

What company is this so we can all avoid it?

As for the installation fees. I think the owner should pay for at least half of it.

Trips 10-30-2010 01:22 PM

It sounds like a mom and pop operation? Any reputable company will do what ever it takes to make their customers happy, and if sometimes they have to eat costs because of bad Workmanship? so be it. It's not the Customers Fault. Like you already did? Take your business somewhere else. Lesson Learned for the Owner, That Quality Control has to be #1 or else it's going to get expensive to stay in business.

frost 10-30-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 788840)
What company is this so we can all avoid it?

^ This

wheee! 10-30-2010 01:25 PM

Do your research carefully before spending your money. It will save you time and grief in the long run! Sorry to hear of your troubles.

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 01:26 PM

The company is ARK.....

HATED1 10-30-2010 02:20 PM

I think it's fair to go half, on the companies side, they did back there product and seemed to try to solve it as much as they could, so you must give them credit. I'm glad they gave you a refund though.

ThoriumHotdog 10-30-2010 02:26 PM

Mental note: Avoid ARK

Xan 10-30-2010 02:40 PM

Take pics for proof (if they hold out) and our entertainment...

TonyBPD 10-30-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 788915)
Take pics for proof (if they hold out) and our entertainment...

:iagree:


I'm glad I had one of the first batch. Seems Ark has gone downhill big time.

ThoriumHotdog 10-30-2010 02:48 PM

True. Pics of the poor welds would be very helpful.

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HATED1 (Post 788900)
I think it's fair to go half, on the companies side, they did back there product and seemed to try to solve it as much as they could, so you must give them credit. I'm glad they gave you a refund though.

Remember the exhaust they advertise and the one you receive are not the same . The one in the pics looks like a quality product. The one you receive is not.

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 788919)
True. Pics of the poor welds would be very helpful.

I have pics of more than just bad welds.

ThoriumHotdog 10-30-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 788932)
I have pics of more than just bad welds.

Post them up man. Sorry to hear about your troubles. When I read your story I was thinking it was some no name exhaust company.

fullmonty 10-30-2010 03:10 PM

0 issues with my ARK.. Just saying

fullmonty 10-30-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 788930)
Remember the exhaust they advertise and the one you receive are not the same . The one in the pics looks like a quality product. The one you receive is not.

And mine looked exactly as advertised.

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 03:22 PM

I have them on my I phone. Does anyone know how to upload to this site or someone pm me your email address and I will send u pics to upload. I wont b home for hrs.

Jquad 10-30-2010 03:26 PM

Damn That suck's bro:shakes head: Should have went with Fast Intentions bro IMHO they got the best Customer service:tup:

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 788941)
And mine looked exactly as advertised.

I honestly doubt that. Was it polished like the pics? Did you have exposed tig welding? Wait til u see my pics and you will be thinking ... Wait a minute . That looks like mine .

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jquad (Post 788953)
Damn That suck's bro:shakes head: Should have went with Fast Intentions bro IMHO they got the best Customer service:tup:

That's who I ordered my new exhaust through.

ThoriumHotdog 10-30-2010 03:33 PM

PM sent.

Jquad 10-30-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 788960)
That's who I ordered my new exhaust through.

Go0d you will be happy guaranteed:tup:

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 04:11 PM

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Here is some pics ...

NYBladeZ 10-30-2010 04:22 PM

Oh man that looks really bad. They could make an argument for the scratched tips saying it was a shipping accident but the 2in missing weld is really not cool. Still I guess going half on the install would be a decent thing to do. They sent you a crap exhaust but it would probably be reasonable for you to have checked it over in detail before putting it on and paying $90.

fairladyZ34 10-30-2010 04:24 PM

:wtf2:

ThoriumHotdog 10-30-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 788835)
.... He also stresses he is losing money and the exhaust has to come off right away so they can refurbish and sell it so he doesnt lose anymore money.

Yeah... refurbished. Maybe he sent you some used junk. That exhaust looks terrible.

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 04:42 PM

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The picture of the tips is the replacement exhaust . I unwrapped both tips and called right away . Spoke with the owner and he hand picked the replacement himself. Bot exhaust were package really well . No damage from shipping . Quality control issues . What really bothers me is that the owner never once apologized . He kept saying this is such a pain and he does not want to lose anymore money . Alex was the only one who did . More pics .....

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 04:44 PM

If you look at the exhaust the only thing that has exposed tig welds is the canisters. All the other welds look like cooled lava goobers.

Dan Z Man 10-30-2010 04:45 PM

oh...my god...that truly is an unbelievably crazy story.. hope you next exhaust is good man, oh and yeah, that exhaust does look bad..

frost 10-30-2010 04:54 PM

Looks like junk, god help the next person who gets the refurbished piece of shit.

frost 10-30-2010 04:55 PM

http://www.wiley-vch.de/books/tis/co...0470455969.jpg

I bought ARK an early Christmas present.

SoCal 370Z 10-30-2010 04:59 PM

Welding looks a bit advanced for this crew, I suggest:

http://jbweld.net/img/jbweld_lrg.jpg

NeverBoneStck 10-30-2010 05:14 PM

So based on this info should I get my money refunded ?? ARK please chime in at anytime..

G37sHKS 10-30-2010 05:19 PM

wow i was a hair away from buying ARK exhaust..

glad i didnt, Neverbone i appreciate ur post verrrrrrrrrry much you know why??

bcuz i live overseas so if this happened to me.. there is nothing I could do...

ARK wtf??

you are losing customers in this way you know that?? for example me!!

I guess the only companies we can trust are

GTM
Stillen
Fast Intentions
MotorDyne

these companies have 100% top customer service ever

frost 10-30-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 789059)
So based on this info should I get my money refunded ?? ARK please chime in at anytime..

I wouldn't let them stick me with that POS.

HATED1 10-30-2010 05:40 PM

Don't forget BERK on that "order from" list. They deliver a great product.

efuseakay 10-30-2010 06:00 PM

Ouch. That's definitely not right. Looks terrible. Get all your $ back.

TonyBPD 10-30-2010 07:53 PM

Not good at all. I doubt Ark will chime in on this one.

Dan Z Man 10-30-2010 07:56 PM

i wonder if they are gonna say anything in this thread

JDW1479 10-30-2010 09:17 PM

Probably need to change the title of the thread to get ARK's attention to view the thread. Something like "ARK+Quality Control+Customer Service=FAIL!"


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