Why is the stock exhaust ,,,
 

Why is the stock exhaust so unexciting and dull??
I test drove a Genesis coupe that had a more exciting exhaust note then the Z.

How do the Nismo pipes sound?

Washer mod. ;) How the 370Z should have sounded from the factory.

It actually sounds better from outside the car, but still sucks IMO. Hence the large number of aftermarket exhaust options.

what's a washer mod

:icon18: .. uh ... no thanks

don't turn the kids into ricers man!:stirthepot:

lol It's just being cost effective. I'm not going to spend $1200 on an exhaust for my wife's car just because she wants it to sound a little aggressive. ;)

For the other guy, washer mod = spacing the muffler section of the exhaust from the rest of the exhaust system with washers (creating a huge exhaust leak). It actually sounds very good. :tiphat:

Okay, i'll be quite honest, i truly, and i mean this, truy dont see how the washer mod is ricey. granted if it made the car soud like crap and you still did it for some ''noise'' then yeah, it's dumb. but to be quite honest, i think it sounds truly amazing, like as if you had an exhaust anyways..

i have done the washer mod actually, and i love it(if you couldnt already tell ;) haha) but in all seriousness, i have a great taste in cars and things to do with them, i am by no means a ricer, so yeah just my .02

Okay, i'll be quite honest, i truly, and i mean this, i truly dont see how the washer mod is ricey. granted if it made the car sound like crap and you still did it for some ''noise'' then yeah, it's dumb. but to be quite honest, i think it sounds truly amazing, like as if you had an exhaust anyways..

i have done the washer mod actually, and i love it(if you couldnt already tell ;) haha) but in all seriousness, i have a great taste in cars and things to do with them, i am by no means a ricer, so yeah just my .02

I think intentionally creating an exhaust leak qualifies as rice. You're modifying the car in a tacky way, with a focus on getting attention, and no power gains. That's just my opinion though.

Um. That sounds ricey. It's a "mod" that has zero performance gains but makes the car sound like its "aggressive" or "fast". Rice.

You can always install a turbo whistle if you want your car to sound cool...
http://www.the370z.com/members/thori...whistler-1.gif
http://www.turbowhistler.net/turbo-whistle/index.htm

I disagree. It simply makes the 370Z sound like it should from the factory.

For the purposes of my wife's car, I'm not really concerned about making any power gains with any exhaust mods.

I'm as hardcore as it gets when it comes to building my own stuff for performance - hell, I have an entire room downstairs dedicated to spare engine parts and engine building tools (because they don't belong in the garage lol) - if you're going to call me a ricer because I don't want to waste $1200+ on an exhaust, then to each his own.

And technically speaking, it removes a lot of back pressure associated with the stock muffler setup and probably does make a measurable 5-7 WHP. Gutting the muffler on my Evo X made a measurable 12 WHP, so I see no difference in directing that exhaust gas out before the muffler minus the turbulence that it creates.

:iagree:

well i mean when you put it that way, i definitely see where you're coming from. idk, i just think it's a good alternative to people that cant really afford an exhaust right away.

oh and btw im not like trying to be a douche or anything lol, just our opinions :)

You really need to mature a bit in your automotive modding before you start rattling BS off like that to somebody like me... it's just off color.

that's funny, i was just thinking, for the people that spend stupid amount of money on short ram intakes for this car..they usually lose power! so ya know what, having a nice sounding car for only a $2 mod, rather than spend a couple 100 on something that will make me lose power...i'll go my way :)

I personally think it's ridiculous to intentionality create a exhaust leak. I would also be concerned about carbon monoxide poisoning from penetration into the cabin.

I'd just wait then. I haven't been paying too much attention to pricing but I'm sure some headers and intakes will be cheaper than CBE. Those should make the car sound much nicer.

350z sounds a lot better than the 370...if you put HFC or test pipes it will get it to a nice tone.

BTW i did the washer mod and i couldnt stand it, it was way to loud in the cabin and it felt slower when you got on the gas. so i took them off a couple days later :shakes head:

You get more CO2 and other non-catalyzed gasses entering the cabin when you sit in traffic... directing the exhaust flow down to the ground a foot before where the exhausts tips are is not dangerous at all :rolleyes:

I realized the "if you want YOUR car" thing came across wrong. I was also about to agree with you on not wanting to blow 1200 to 2000 grand on the wifes car but I didn't think it was necessary. I was even going to agree with you on the spare room for engines and parts [I've done that]...

Either way, it wasn't designed to offend you.

this is a beaten horse..that's what the catalytic converter is for, i did the mod at the utmost end of the exhaust, there is almost the same amount of crap coming out of it than if it was the stock way... and besides, for it to actually have an affect on you, you'd have to be in basically the same situation for anything to happen if the car was stock...you can basically sit right behind the exhaust and breath it in and nothing would really happen, it disperses through the air too much for anything too happen.. it's all about concentration, if you're in a closed area i.e. garage for a long time then yes obviously it'll be a problem..but same as the stock exhaust! it's not like i'm running open headers with a tube from the end of the header into my mouth

yup lol, you have a better chance of c02 death in L.A. traffic then you do in this situation :D

That's mostly true, but I did this mod for about a week to tide me over until I got my exhaust and for one thing, I felt like I was choking a few times in my car depending on where I was at and a gentle breeze...so yeah it should theoretically be the same, but it's not. It's not going to kill you, but it is unpleasant. Not to mention the awful sound coming out of the back of the exhaust when comparing to a proper exhaust. It's a fun mod if you can't wait to get your exhaust, but it's as rice as take-out.

No more rice than the fact that a stock SRT-4 comes with simple resonators rather than an actual chamber-style muffler.

It's effectively the same modification as me taking the effort to cut into the stock Z muffler and gut some of the internals to accomplish the same sound, welding it all up afterward. I did this to my Evo before buying a proper exhaust. In fact, a well-respected, track-oriented Evo tuning company sells a modified muffler like this.

Instead, I saved myself some time and effort instead of ruining the stock muffler we might need later on down the road.

But you probably wouldn't call the latter that I described as "rice."

Your logic is flawed, it really is.

If you say so

Do you understand how quickly exhaust gases diffuse into the atmosphere surrounding your car once they leave the exhaust system? It's virtually instantaneous relative to your breathing rate. It's only dangerous when the entire atmosphere surrounding your car becomes concentrated in CO and noxious gases.

Lol I'd never do it. I was just curious what it was.

Well aside from the fact that I feel cars like the SRT-4 or Evo are kind of a "rice" car stock anyways, I don't really get the point. I don't care what people do with their cars or what people think of what I do with mine. I'm admitting that I tried the washer "mod" as well, and it was because I hated the sound (or lack there of) coming from my Z. It was more than enough to tide me over, and I can understand why people do that for $5 if all they want is more sound. That being said, I'm not sure how it's not rice to create an exhaust leak :confused:

Modifying a muffler for better air flow is different, if that is the case. What you did is NOT what I would call a rice mod because it takes some effort and skill. Just relax...the washer mod IS ricey, but I for one am saying it is a GREAT and cheap way to modify your car if all you want is a more aggressive note, whether you don't care about 20hp for $1500 or you just don't have the cash.

Warm why dont you just try and find an axle back? or better yet test pipe? HFC? you got alot of options to make it sound more aggressive without spending over 1k. better yet invidia has theirs for 9 bills + tax and ship. still hell of alot cheaper. Releasing excessive amount of back pressure is not good as well... i mean if you really wanted to go cheaper buy a universal resonator and have a guy replace and weld it on hell of alot cheaper keeping your stock exhaust better sound.

Did you drive the 3.8 Genesis or the 2.0?

I briefly owned a 13 2.0T before realizing that it was a seriously unrefined pos. That 4 banger did not sound good at all.

This thread is almost 4 years old and the OP hasn't logged back on in almost 3 years... For some odd reason I'm really doubting you'll get an answer..:tup:

My bad.

One thing that I do miss about the Genesis is that the online community seemed more alive. I used go to myg37 forums but it's a ghost town. This forum is far better when it comes to technical info/resources.

The Genesis forum is more active than ours?

Heresy!

Dude. Here in Hawaii we are getting over run by Genesis Coupes which are mostly all 2.0t's (They don't realize the 3.8 is actually faster lol) everywhere. We usually have pretty good turn out here at car shows for VQ powered cars. 27 Genesis Coupes were at the Stance Nation meet......the island is becoming overpopulated with them but most of all, I'm tired of them thinking they can beat me in a race.... so irritating....

The reason mostly everyone gets the 2.0T is because it's a whole lot easier to make faster. Everyone knows that stock vs stock the 3.8 is faster.

Edit: Some 2.0s actually are fast, but 10-12 model internals are junk, 350whp is already pushing it. The 13 2.0s are kind of quick. I haven't driven the 13 3.8, but the 10-12 2.0 and 3.8 models are flat out slow.
It is more active, but with that being said it is not better. It is rather immature.

Exactly

I'd be more concerned about the heat from the exhaust around parts that weren't intended to be in the exhaust stream. If I were seriously considering this, I'd either buy a used set of short tails or have a buddy with a welder cut open my muffler, weld some pipe between the inlets and outlets bypassing any baffles, and seal it back up.

even though i thought the washer mod was just stupid i was bored one day (and anxiously waiting on my AAM shorttails) so i threw some washers in there and yes i agree thats how the stock exhaust should have sounded just not as muffled. luckily my shortials came about two days later and HOLY CRAP they sound so good. I highly suggest AAM shortails as the way to go if you want a louder exhaust without spending 1200 all at once. AAM also makes an h pipe that is similar to the nismo exhaust that you can bolt up to the shorttails at a later time