Best intake/exhaust combination

PR370z · 12-05-2010, 02:03 PM

Do most of you agree that the best intake/exhaust combination (to produce power) is as follows:
stillen G3 intake
HFC's or test pipes (either berk,stillen,ERZ,CNT)
stillen CBE

pg6speed · 12-05-2010, 04:54 PM

This is just my opinion.
If you run all three you WILL NEED a tune.

Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers > HFC or test pipes

Fast Intentions Cat Back > All others: Price, Build Quality, able to customize to your liking (not just an off the shelf part), Sound, and Customer Service.

Stillen G3 > All others: Safer placement of filters, use K&N filters

PR370z · 12-06-2010, 09:34 AM

I am guessing that this is a personal preference and there is not a true best combo to make power. there is a lot of views but only 1 reply

johnnydrama · 12-06-2010, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR370z

I am guessing that this is a personal preference and there is not a true best combo to make power. there is a lot of views but only 1 reply

No pg6speed pretty much nailed it. F.I. long tube headers will give you the most power... Stillen G3 has also shown to give the best results by a few hp when it comes to intakes... and F.I. exhaust is a no brainer. Customizable to your liking when it comes to look and sound, and the performance without a doubt is one of if not the best.

ClemsonWill · 12-06-2010, 09:45 AM

It's hard to say what the best combination is. You can look around and find different dynos for just about every cbe and intake. But I agree with pg6speed, you will probably need a custome tune if you go full bolt-ons. Dynos and tuning is all different. You will be hard pressed to find a solid winner. There are lots of combinations that put out great power.

I can tell you the most popular choices are:
FI or Stillen CBE
Stillen G3 intake
Berk HFC or FI LTH

GZ3 · 12-06-2010, 10:30 AM

i have yet to see a signle dyno of what FI LTH make on a otherwise complete stock setup. If someone knows of one please link me, thank you. But the more i see the designs of our stock headers(they are not manifolds) match these with some good HFC or test pipes..even ART pipes which have been proven to make more hp/tq than both, i cant see the gains of LTH being that much more. maybe some one can chime in...?!?

theDreamer · 12-06-2010, 10:34 AM

Try reading the F.I. LTH thread?
Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers are here!

GZ3 · 12-06-2010, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Try reading the F.I. LTH thread?
Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers are here!

lol yes sir... i did, the whole thing.... not one dyno of LTH on a stock exhaust and intake

theDreamer · 12-06-2010, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3

lol yes sir... i did, the whole thing.... not one dyno of LTH on a stock exhaust and intake

Because no one has this setup, sorry but how about you take a step for the community and try this out?
That is how we get all the results and data we have because people take risks.

GZ3 · 12-06-2010, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Because no one has this setup, sorry but how about you take a step for the community and try this out?
That is how we get all the results and data we have because people take risks.

true, but am not intrested in LTH...my whole point is that i dont think thier gain vs stock headers and good hfc or ART pipes will that much more. I'm making my ART pipe purchase friday, i'm stock otherwise...i will be installing these at UPREV in Austin and posting those results...

theDreamer · 12-06-2010, 10:57 AM

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...eaders_STD.jpg

How can you say that when this image (using F.I. exhaust) clearly shows a difference between HFC & LTH. Tony has eliminated the stock exhaust but has kept the exhaust the same on both tests so only other changing variable is the LTHs v. HFC.

I will agree that the stock headers are very well built and designed, but a properly designed LTH setup will outperform stock headers plus HFC.

GZ3 · 12-06-2010, 11:17 AM

well as far as HP goes test pipes vs hfc, test pipes would have gotten more HP but lost a little tq....HFC usually dont lose tq BUT yeild a little less HP than test pipes. Thats where i believe ART pipes come in. They have all the benefit of a test pipe and HFC. They actually yeild more HP than a straight pipe and more tq than a HFC...best of both. So i was thinking these matched with stock headers vs LTH on a otherwise stock set up, the difference cant be THAT much more...IDK...just brainstorming here

PR370z · 12-06-2010, 11:51 AM

So the best combo for making POWER, stillen G3 and stillen or FI CBE with HFC's.

JollyGoodChap · 12-06-2010, 01:23 PM

stillen g3 intake is good. exhaust wise, I'd personally go with Tanabe for minimal droning but fast intentions is good too. I just think the tanabe sytem is pretty good to look at too! haha! Tanabe Medalion Touring exhaust

GZ3 · 12-06-2010, 02:29 PM

^^ yes! tanabe will also be my exhaust of choice...beautiful exhaust

12-05-2010, 02:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
PR370z Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 108 Drives: 2008 BMW E60 M5 Rep Power: 14	Best intake/exhaust combination Do most of you agree that the best intake/exhaust combination (to produce power) is as follows: stillen G3 intake HFC's or test pipes (either berk,stillen,ERZ,CNT) stillen CBE __________________ MODS:293 Whp/ 246 Tq K&N drop ins, ERZ HFC, JIC-Magic Y Pipe, HPS post MAF tubes, Nismo shift knob, 30% tints, JDM rear fog light more to come!

12-05-2010, 04:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
pg6speed Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 223 Drives: 10 Armada Rep Power: 15	This is just my opinion. If you run all three you WILL NEED a tune. Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers > HFC or test pipes Fast Intentions Cat Back > All others: Price, Build Quality, able to customize to your liking (not just an off the shelf part), Sound, and Customer Service. Stillen G3 > All others: Safer placement of filters, use K&N filters __________________ STILLEN G3 / F.I. TDX (NO RESONATORS) / F.I. LTH / UpRev Tuned / BC-Racing ER Coilovers / DIY Oil Cooler / Short Shifter

12-06-2010, 09:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
PR370z Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 108 Drives: 2008 BMW E60 M5 Rep Power: 14	I am guessing that this is a personal preference and there is not a true best combo to make power. there is a lot of views but only 1 reply __________________ MODS:293 Whp/ 246 Tq K&N drop ins, ERZ HFC, JIC-Magic Y Pipe, HPS post MAF tubes, Nismo shift knob, 30% tints, JDM rear fog light more to come!

12-06-2010, 09:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
ClemsonWill A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 12,045 Drives: a Civic VP! Rep Power: 444	It's hard to say what the best combination is. You can look around and find different dynos for just about every cbe and intake. But I agree with pg6speed, you will probably need a custome tune if you go full bolt-ons. Dynos and tuning is all different. You will be hard pressed to find a solid winner. There are lots of combinations that put out great power. I can tell you the most popular choices are: FI or Stillen CBE Stillen G3 intake Berk HFC or FI LTH __________________ Slightly modded

12-06-2010, 10:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	i have yet to see a signle dyno of what FI LTH make on a otherwise complete stock setup. If someone knows of one please link me, thank you. But the more i see the designs of our stock headers(they are not manifolds) match these with some good HFC or test pipes..even ART pipes which have been proven to make more hp/tq than both, i cant see the gains of LTH being that much more. maybe some one can chime in...?!? __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

12-06-2010, 10:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Try reading the F.I. LTH thread? Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers are here! __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

12-06-2010, 10:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...eaders_STD.jpg How can you say that when this image (using F.I. exhaust) clearly shows a difference between HFC & LTH. Tony has eliminated the stock exhaust but has kept the exhaust the same on both tests so only other changing variable is the LTHs v. HFC. I will agree that the stock headers are very well built and designed, but a properly designed LTH setup will outperform stock headers plus HFC. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

12-06-2010, 11:17 AM	#12 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	well as far as HP goes test pipes vs hfc, test pipes would have gotten more HP but lost a little tq....HFC usually dont lose tq BUT yeild a little less HP than test pipes. Thats where i believe ART pipes come in. They have all the benefit of a test pipe and HFC. They actually yeild more HP than a straight pipe and more tq than a HFC...best of both. So i was thinking these matched with stock headers vs LTH on a otherwise stock set up, the difference cant be THAT much more...IDK...just brainstorming here __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

12-06-2010, 11:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
PR370z Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 108 Drives: 2008 BMW E60 M5 Rep Power: 14	So the best combo for making POWER, stillen G3 and stillen or FI CBE with HFC's. __________________ MODS:293 Whp/ 246 Tq K&N drop ins, ERZ HFC, JIC-Magic Y Pipe, HPS post MAF tubes, Nismo shift knob, 30% tints, JDM rear fog light more to come!

12-06-2010, 01:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
JollyGoodChap Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lust Angeles Posts: 328 Drives: Z34 Rep Power: 14	stillen g3 intake is good. exhaust wise, I'd personally go with Tanabe for minimal droning but fast intentions is good too. I just think the tanabe sytem is pretty good to look at too! haha! Tanabe Medalion Touring exhaust

12-06-2010, 02:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	^^ yes! tanabe will also be my exhaust of choice...beautiful exhaust __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

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